FYI Rblodow, You are gay. We get it

[Buck Armstrong]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
Sorry, but thats bvllshit. If you want acceptance and tolerance from me, you've got it. But if you want your sexual or racial or any other personal characteristic to make others have to treat you like you're special, carefully choose their words around you, etc., then too fvcking bad. The world didn't work that way before you came out, and it doesn't work that way after. Gay or not, you're still an adult. Grow up.

You wanna be treated special? Ride the short bus.

I've never had the need to 'come out' about anything, and I don't forsee having to do so, because like most of us, I'm attracted to the opposite gender.

If you want to make a pointed comment about someone's sexuality, race, religion, whatever, then YOU bear the responsibility, not them.

Go ahead, call RB pathetic, stupid, whatever you want, and you will see the same reaction as with any other generally well liked poster on these boards. Use his sexuality as some sort of launching point for an attack, and you deserve all the sh1t that flies your way in response.

I'm not completely sure that arecenite was trying to do that, but I am certain that you are. Congratualtions, you're an idiot.

I didn't call him anything, I didn't attack anybody, make any pointed comments, or use sexuality as a launching point for whatever delusion you're currently having, or any of the other ridiculous things you just said (unless you have me confused with another poster, in which case, "YOU bear the responsibility"). Are you telling me that gays shouldn't be treated like everyone else? That being gay inherently means they should get special consideration? I thought the idea was we're all supposed to be equal...

The Crusades are over, jackass. Calm down and read before you post. Not everyone's the bigot you wish they were.

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: GeekDrew

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: GeekDrew

Originally posted by: chrisms
I think a lot of gay people don't realize that homosexuality makes people uncomfortable. It makes me uncomfortable. I don't want to see two dudes kissing, yet I don't care if a guy and a girl are kissing. So what. To me, its natural. Just like to gay people, being gay is natural. But since the majority of people are straight, you can either be flamboyant and make everyone feel uncomfortable (and in turn be somewhat of an outcast) or try to keep it to yourself and close friends. It's a fact of life, no matter how unfair.

Take that one guy on Last Comic Standing, for example. All of his material was about being gay, and for some reason people thought it was funny. I seriously wish I could punch that dude in the face. He annoys the hell out of me. I never heard one joke that entire show that didn't have to do with him being gay.

This is not directed at anyone in these forums but just something I wanted to point out since we're on the subject.

Of course I can't speak for all gays, but I *KNOW* that homosexuality makes an insanely large number of heterosexual people extremely uncomfortable.

I am not flambouyant in real life, nor has *any at all* ever asked me if I am gay IRL, without having prior knowledge - my actions and lifestyle do not give it away. However, this is an online forum - here's where I can relax, without fear of repercussion (for the most part). I don't want to be banned for anything, so I don't go too over the top... but if I were to be banned... oh well, I guess I'll spend more time elsewhere, or create a new account. Here is where I'm able to throw crap in people's faces, to get their reactions, without the risk of being physically assaulted for it (at least in the short term)... so why should I care if I make people on ATOT uncomfortable with my sexuality? I really don't intend to do that - and honestly, I hadn't talked about homosexuality a huge amount until the last couple of weeks. The difference? I realized that it's just an online community... I do value my reputation around here and on other forums, but why not act however I feel?

IRL, I do keep to myself and my friends. It would be stupid to do otherwise - there are too many insane people out there that would go apeshit if I were to be flambouyant in the wrong situation... not that I'd ever want to anyway, for that matter.

I know that this thread is about rbloedow, not myself, but your post was about gay people as a generalization - and that's what I'm responding to.

If you don't care if you make people uncomfortable, who are you to tell me what I can say about things that make me uncomfortable?

There's a difference between attacking a person or a minority and just being yourself. I don't recall creating any threads with a topic such as "arcenite is a complete asshole that ought to be banned just because he has the mental capacity of a two year old"... even though it may have crossed my mind. The difference in you and I is that I just ignore the things that annoy me or I otherwise do not wish to encounter... I don't attack them for that fact, unless they attack me first.

So it makes me a bad person that I speak my mind? I wasn't the one that created this thread.

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: GeekDrew

Originally posted by: chrisms
I think a lot of gay people don't realize that homosexuality makes people uncomfortable. It makes me uncomfortable. I don't want to see two dudes kissing, yet I don't care if a guy and a girl are kissing. So what. To me, its natural. Just like to gay people, being gay is natural. But since the majority of people are straight, you can either be flamboyant and make everyone feel uncomfortable (and in turn be somewhat of an outcast) or try to keep it to yourself and close friends. It's a fact of life, no matter how unfair.

Take that one guy on Last Comic Standing, for example. All of his material was about being gay, and for some reason people thought it was funny. I seriously wish I could punch that dude in the face. He annoys the hell out of me. I never heard one joke that entire show that didn't have to do with him being gay.

This is not directed at anyone in these forums but just something I wanted to point out since we're on the subject.

Of course I can't speak for all gays, but I *KNOW* that homosexuality makes an insanely large number of heterosexual people extremely uncomfortable.

I am not flambouyant in real life, nor has *any at all* ever asked me if I am gay IRL, without having prior knowledge - my actions and lifestyle do not give it away. However, this is an online forum - here's where I can relax, without fear of repercussion (for the most part). I don't want to be banned for anything, so I don't go too over the top... but if I were to be banned... oh well, I guess I'll spend more time elsewhere, or create a new account. Here is where I'm able to throw crap in people's faces, to get their reactions, without the risk of being physically assaulted for it (at least in the short term)... so why should I care if I make people on ATOT uncomfortable with my sexuality? I really don't intend to do that - and honestly, I hadn't talked about homosexuality a huge amount until the last couple of weeks. The difference? I realized that it's just an online community... I do value my reputation around here and on other forums, but why not act however I feel?

IRL, I do keep to myself and my friends. It would be stupid to do otherwise - there are too many insane people out there that would go apeshit if I were to be flambouyant in the wrong situation... not that I'd ever want to anyway, for that matter.

I know that this thread is about rbloedow, not myself, but your post was about gay people as a generalization - and that's what I'm responding to.

I may give bridgen a hard time about being metro sexual and may not understand how a guy can be homosexual, but I realize people are all different and all have there own desires. Don't stop posting here because a few people are narrow minded and can't see the larger picture. I appreciate having a larger audience of different individuals contributing to this forum beyond the typical virign geek we all expect. Don't be dismayed by their bigotry.

You are jumping the gun, once again. This has nothing to do with liking or disliking gays. You and many other people are failing to see that. What this has to do with is reminding everyone on internet forums about your sexuality.

My comments were not specifically meant for you...I understand where you are coming from...but you really need to put yourself in RB's shoes and realize what it is like to be the society outcast.

I really don't think he makes any more homo inuendo/jokes then we make babe/hetero jokes. Just give him a break. He's excited about being open about who he really is...and he wants to share it with us...he's not trying to offend anyone.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Ok - I don't see how anything rbloedow or geekdrew said was offensive. At the most, they are excited that they found each other (maybe even love) on a geek forum.

Funny... there were no threads trashing geekbabe and Red Dawn's relationship when they allegedly got together. ... and nothing is grosser than old folks bonin'.

Why then are rbloedow and geekdrew treated differently?
Why was this thread created?

It is simply because they are gay. They are different from the majority of you undersexed losers, and you bigots just can't take it.

Grow a thicker skin, folks. Seek to be offended, and you shall find offense. :roll:

It is not like rbloedow posted a thread that said "OMG 9 days until I get to glaze geekdrew like a Krispy Kreme donut"

That would be offensive.

So... are ya? j/k Sorta.

But Geekbabe and Red Dawn are not gay. They are heterosexual. A normal, natural, acceptable, relationship. Of course, "normal, natural and acceptable" only pertains to 99% of the population that ARE actually "normal, natural and acceptable." I.E. not gay.

So the hell what? The thought of 2 crusty, old folks banging ass really gives me the heebies. Why is it ok to acknowledge - even celebrate their union, while denigrating a gay union?

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: pclstyle

Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong

Originally posted by: pclstyle

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: pclstyle

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: arcenite
Finding? I don't have to find, I simply clicked on the links provided by Xionide. I have better things to do than make a Gay's life any more miserable than it already is. Oh and, you havn't answered my question.

What's that supposed to mean?

Arcenite, watch your fvcking mouth you fvcking idiot.

Uh oh, I said Gay. Here we go again. Rbloedow can throw the word around like it's a f!cking tennis ball.

The saddest part is you still don't even realize where you went wrong in that statement. "Make a gay's life more miserable than it already is" ? Are you a fvcking dumbass?

If he said "make your life more miserable than it is" to another poster in any other context, no one would have a problem with it.

The point is, he singled out a single group. If he had said, "Make an Asian's life more miserable than it already is", you'd hear quite the uproar.

I have no tolerance for a bigot. Burn

Entertain me as to why an asian would have a miserable life as a generalization. Meaning to what I said was the fact that *the g word* have a harder time putting up with the pressures of the real world.

Entertain me as to why a lesbian or gay person would have a miserable life as a generalization. It isn't the 1950s, you know.

 

[GeekDrew]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Ok - I don't see how anything rbloedow or geekdrew said was offensive. At the most, they are excited that they found each other (maybe even love) on a geek forum.

Funny... there were no threads trashing geekbabe and Red Dawn's relationship when they allegedly got together. ... and nothing is grosser than old folks bonin'.

Why then are rbloedow and geekdrew treated differently?
Why was this thread created?

It is simply because they are gay. They are different from the majority of you undersexed losers, and you bigots just can't take it.

Grow a thicker skin, folks. Seek to be offended, and you shall find offense. :roll:

It is not like rbloedow posted a thread that said "OMG 9 days until I get to glaze geekdrew like a Krispy Kreme donut"

That would be offensive.

So... are ya? j/k Sorta.

But Geekbabe and Red Dawn are not gay. They are heterosexual. A normal, natural, acceptable, relationship. Of course, "normal, natural and acceptable" only pertains to 99% of the population that ARE actually "normal, natural and acceptable." I.E. not gay.

His point exactly.

It is simply because they are gay. They are different from the majority of you undersexed losers, and you bigots just can't take it.

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: GeekDrew

Originally posted by: chrisms
I think a lot of gay people don't realize that homosexuality makes people uncomfortable. It makes me uncomfortable. I don't want to see two dudes kissing, yet I don't care if a guy and a girl are kissing. So what. To me, its natural. Just like to gay people, being gay is natural. But since the majority of people are straight, you can either be flamboyant and make everyone feel uncomfortable (and in turn be somewhat of an outcast) or try to keep it to yourself and close friends. It's a fact of life, no matter how unfair.

Take that one guy on Last Comic Standing, for example. All of his material was about being gay, and for some reason people thought it was funny. I seriously wish I could punch that dude in the face. He annoys the hell out of me. I never heard one joke that entire show that didn't have to do with him being gay.

This is not directed at anyone in these forums but just something I wanted to point out since we're on the subject.

Of course I can't speak for all gays, but I *KNOW* that homosexuality makes an insanely large number of heterosexual people extremely uncomfortable.

I am not flambouyant in real life, nor has *any at all* ever asked me if I am gay IRL, without having prior knowledge - my actions and lifestyle do not give it away. However, this is an online forum - here's where I can relax, without fear of repercussion (for the most part). I don't want to be banned for anything, so I don't go too over the top... but if I were to be banned... oh well, I guess I'll spend more time elsewhere, or create a new account. Here is where I'm able to throw crap in people's faces, to get their reactions, without the risk of being physically assaulted for it (at least in the short term)... so why should I care if I make people on ATOT uncomfortable with my sexuality? I really don't intend to do that - and honestly, I hadn't talked about homosexuality a huge amount until the last couple of weeks. The difference? I realized that it's just an online community... I do value my reputation around here and on other forums, but why not act however I feel?

IRL, I do keep to myself and my friends. It would be stupid to do otherwise - there are too many insane people out there that would go apeshit if I were to be flambouyant in the wrong situation... not that I'd ever want to anyway, for that matter.

I know that this thread is about rbloedow, not myself, but your post was about gay people as a generalization - and that's what I'm responding to.

I may give bridgen a hard time about being metro sexual and may not understand how a guy can be homosexual, but I realize people are all different and all have there own desires. Don't stop posting here because a few people are narrow minded and can't see the larger picture. I appreciate having a larger audience of different individuals contributing to this forum beyond the typical virign geek we all expect. Don't be dismayed by their bigotry.

You are jumping the gun, once again. This has nothing to do with liking or disliking gays. You and many other people are failing to see that. What this has to do with is reminding everyone on internet forums about your sexuality.

My comments were not specifically meant for you...I understand where you are coming from...but you really need to put yourself in RB's shoes and realize what it is like to be the society outcast.

I really don't think he makes any more homo inuendo/jokes then we make babe/hetero jokes. Just give him a break. He's excited about being open about who he really is...and he wants to share it with us...he's not trying to offend anyone.

I understand he's not trying to offend anyone and neither am I, though GeekDrew is making it hard. What bothers me is as both GeekDrew and Rbloedow have proven, it's mostly about them. They don't care what other people think. If that's the case, why should I?

 

[MartyMcFly3]

So much drama...

 

[AkumaX]

one of the fastest growing threads evar

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: GeekDrew

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Ok - I don't see how anything rbloedow or geekdrew said was offensive. At the most, they are excited that they found each other (maybe even love) on a geek forum.

Funny... there were no threads trashing geekbabe and Red Dawn's relationship when they allegedly got together. ... and nothing is grosser than old folks bonin'.

Why then are rbloedow and geekdrew treated differently?
Why was this thread created?

It is simply because they are gay. They are different from the majority of you undersexed losers, and you bigots just can't take it.

Grow a thicker skin, folks. Seek to be offended, and you shall find offense. :roll:

It is not like rbloedow posted a thread that said "OMG 9 days until I get to glaze geekdrew like a Krispy Kreme donut"

That would be offensive.

So... are ya? j/k Sorta.

But Geekbabe and Red Dawn are not gay. They are heterosexual. A normal, natural, acceptable, relationship. Of course, "normal, natural and acceptable" only pertains to 99% of the population that ARE actually "normal, natural and acceptable." I.E. not gay.

His point exactly.

It is simply because they are gay. They are different from the majority of you undersexed losers, and you bigots just can't take it.

It has absolutely nothing to do with being gay. Ok, anywhere that Rbloedow has mentioned gay, let's replace it with horny. Again, no one cares keep it to yourself.

 

[dudeman007]

This thread is wayyy too overblown along with rbloedow's comments. Fussing about nothing jeez.

 

[Twista]

Originally posted by: daveymark
this thread has gotten BLOWN out of proportion. people, stop being so ANAL about the issue. There's no need to get all HARD about it.

this is why i love ATOT ;p

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: pclstyle

Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong

Originally posted by: pclstyle

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: pclstyle

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: arcenite
Finding? I don't have to find, I simply clicked on the links provided by Xionide. I have better things to do than make a Gay's life any more miserable than it already is. Oh and, you havn't answered my question.

What's that supposed to mean?

Arcenite, watch your fvcking mouth you fvcking idiot.

Uh oh, I said Gay. Here we go again. Rbloedow can throw the word around like it's a f!cking tennis ball.

The saddest part is you still don't even realize where you went wrong in that statement. "Make a gay's life more miserable than it already is" ? Are you a fvcking dumbass?

If he said "make your life more miserable than it is" to another poster in any other context, no one would have a problem with it.

The point is, he singled out a single group. If he had said, "Make an Asian's life more miserable than it already is", you'd hear quite the uproar.

I have no tolerance for a bigot. Burn

Entertain me as to why an asian would have a miserable life as a generalization. Meaning to what I said was the fact that *the g word* have a harder time putting up with the pressures of the real world.

Entertain me as to why a lesbian or gay person would have a miserable life as a generalization. It isn't the 1950s, you know.

Keep this in mind - it was not until the mid 20th Century that laws banning marriage between blacks and whites were declared unconstitutional. Funny - the arguments about those relationships being unnatural are hauntingly familiar... and similarly wrong.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: dudeman007
This thread is wayyy too overblown along with rblodow's comments. Fussing about nothing jeez.

take a chill pill gays/gay bashers :beer:

 

[GeekDrew]

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: GeekDrew

Originally posted by: chrisms
I think a lot of gay people don't realize that homosexuality makes people uncomfortable. It makes me uncomfortable. I don't want to see two dudes kissing, yet I don't care if a guy and a girl are kissing. So what. To me, its natural. Just like to gay people, being gay is natural. But since the majority of people are straight, you can either be flamboyant and make everyone feel uncomfortable (and in turn be somewhat of an outcast) or try to keep it to yourself and close friends. It's a fact of life, no matter how unfair.

Take that one guy on Last Comic Standing, for example. All of his material was about being gay, and for some reason people thought it was funny. I seriously wish I could punch that dude in the face. He annoys the hell out of me. I never heard one joke that entire show that didn't have to do with him being gay.

This is not directed at anyone in these forums but just something I wanted to point out since we're on the subject.

Of course I can't speak for all gays, but I *KNOW* that homosexuality makes an insanely large number of heterosexual people extremely uncomfortable.

I am not flambouyant in real life, nor has *any at all* ever asked me if I am gay IRL, without having prior knowledge - my actions and lifestyle do not give it away. However, this is an online forum - here's where I can relax, without fear of repercussion (for the most part). I don't want to be banned for anything, so I don't go too over the top... but if I were to be banned... oh well, I guess I'll spend more time elsewhere, or create a new account. Here is where I'm able to throw crap in people's faces, to get their reactions, without the risk of being physically assaulted for it (at least in the short term)... so why should I care if I make people on ATOT uncomfortable with my sexuality? I really don't intend to do that - and honestly, I hadn't talked about homosexuality a huge amount until the last couple of weeks. The difference? I realized that it's just an online community... I do value my reputation around here and on other forums, but why not act however I feel?

IRL, I do keep to myself and my friends. It would be stupid to do otherwise - there are too many insane people out there that would go apeshit if I were to be flambouyant in the wrong situation... not that I'd ever want to anyway, for that matter.

I know that this thread is about rbloedow, not myself, but your post was about gay people as a generalization - and that's what I'm responding to.

I may give bridgen a hard time about being metro sexual and may not understand how a guy can be homosexual, but I realize people are all different and all have there own desires. Don't stop posting here because a few people are narrow minded and can't see the larger picture. I appreciate having a larger audience of different individuals contributing to this forum beyond the typical virign geek we all expect. Don't be dismayed by their bigotry.

You are jumping the gun, once again. This has nothing to do with liking or disliking gays. You and many other people are failing to see that. What this has to do with is reminding everyone on internet forums about your sexuality.

My comments were not specifically meant for you...I understand where you are coming from...but you really need to put yourself in RB's shoes and realize what it is like to be the society outcast.

I really don't think he makes any more homo inuendo/jokes then we make babe/hetero jokes. Just give him a break. He's excited about being open about who he really is...and he wants to share it with us...he's not trying to offend anyone.

I understand he's not trying to offend anyone and neither am I, though GeekDrew is making it hard. What bothers me is as both GeekDrew and Rbloedow have proven, it's mostly about them. They don't care what other people think. If that's the case, why should I?

You *weren't* trying to offend anyone? Good job with that, thus far!!!

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: pclstyle

Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong

Originally posted by: pclstyle

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: pclstyle

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: arcenite
Finding? I don't have to find, I simply clicked on the links provided by Xionide. I have better things to do than make a Gay's life any more miserable than it already is. Oh and, you havn't answered my question.

What's that supposed to mean?

Arcenite, watch your fvcking mouth you fvcking idiot.

Uh oh, I said Gay. Here we go again. Rbloedow can throw the word around like it's a f!cking tennis ball.

The saddest part is you still don't even realize where you went wrong in that statement. "Make a gay's life more miserable than it already is" ? Are you a fvcking dumbass?

If he said "make your life more miserable than it is" to another poster in any other context, no one would have a problem with it.

The point is, he singled out a single group. If he had said, "Make an Asian's life more miserable than it already is", you'd hear quite the uproar.

I have no tolerance for a bigot. Burn

Entertain me as to why an asian would have a miserable life as a generalization. Meaning to what I said was the fact that *the g word* have a harder time putting up with the pressures of the real world.

Entertain me as to why a lesbian or gay person would have a miserable life as a generalization. It isn't the 1950s, you know.

Keep this in mind - it was not until the mid 20th Century that laws banning marriage between blacks and whites were declared unconstitutional. Funny - the arguments about those relationships being unnatural are hauntingly familiar... and similarly wrong.

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: GeekDrew

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: GeekDrew

Originally posted by: chrisms
I think a lot of gay people don't realize that homosexuality makes people uncomfortable. It makes me uncomfortable. I don't want to see two dudes kissing, yet I don't care if a guy and a girl are kissing. So what. To me, its natural. Just like to gay people, being gay is natural. But since the majority of people are straight, you can either be flamboyant and make everyone feel uncomfortable (and in turn be somewhat of an outcast) or try to keep it to yourself and close friends. It's a fact of life, no matter how unfair.

Take that one guy on Last Comic Standing, for example. All of his material was about being gay, and for some reason people thought it was funny. I seriously wish I could punch that dude in the face. He annoys the hell out of me. I never heard one joke that entire show that didn't have to do with him being gay.

This is not directed at anyone in these forums but just something I wanted to point out since we're on the subject.

Of course I can't speak for all gays, but I *KNOW* that homosexuality makes an insanely large number of heterosexual people extremely uncomfortable.

I am not flambouyant in real life, nor has *any at all* ever asked me if I am gay IRL, without having prior knowledge - my actions and lifestyle do not give it away. However, this is an online forum - here's where I can relax, without fear of repercussion (for the most part). I don't want to be banned for anything, so I don't go too over the top... but if I were to be banned... oh well, I guess I'll spend more time elsewhere, or create a new account. Here is where I'm able to throw crap in people's faces, to get their reactions, without the risk of being physically assaulted for it (at least in the short term)... so why should I care if I make people on ATOT uncomfortable with my sexuality? I really don't intend to do that - and honestly, I hadn't talked about homosexuality a huge amount until the last couple of weeks. The difference? I realized that it's just an online community... I do value my reputation around here and on other forums, but why not act however I feel?

IRL, I do keep to myself and my friends. It would be stupid to do otherwise - there are too many insane people out there that would go apeshit if I were to be flambouyant in the wrong situation... not that I'd ever want to anyway, for that matter.

I know that this thread is about rbloedow, not myself, but your post was about gay people as a generalization - and that's what I'm responding to.

I may give bridgen a hard time about being metro sexual and may not understand how a guy can be homosexual, but I realize people are all different and all have there own desires. Don't stop posting here because a few people are narrow minded and can't see the larger picture. I appreciate having a larger audience of different individuals contributing to this forum beyond the typical virign geek we all expect. Don't be dismayed by their bigotry.

You are jumping the gun, once again. This has nothing to do with liking or disliking gays. You and many other people are failing to see that. What this has to do with is reminding everyone on internet forums about your sexuality.

My comments were not specifically meant for you...I understand where you are coming from...but you really need to put yourself in RB's shoes and realize what it is like to be the society outcast.

I really don't think he makes any more homo inuendo/jokes then we make babe/hetero jokes. Just give him a break. He's excited about being open about who he really is...and he wants to share it with us...he's not trying to offend anyone.

I understand he's not trying to offend anyone and neither am I, though GeekDrew is making it hard. What bothers me is as both GeekDrew and Rbloedow have proven, it's mostly about them. They don't care what other people think. If that's the case, why should I?

You *weren't* trying to offend anyone? Good job with that, thus far!!!

Case in point.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
I didn't call him anything, I didn't attack anybody, make any pointed comments, or use sexuality as a launching point for whatever delusion you're currently having, or any of the other ridiculous things you just said (unless you have me confused with another poster, in which case, "YOU bear the responsibility"). Are you telling me that gays shouldn't be treated like everyone else? That being gay inherently means they should get special consideration? I thought the idea was we're all supposed to be equal...

The Crusades are over, jackass. Calm down and read before you post. Not everyone's the bigot you wish they were.

No, very few people are truly bigots, and I don't wish any of them were.

Before you call me jackass (oops, too late) why don't you go look at what YOU wrote: I didn't write it!

A comment that reads "I have better things to do than make a Gay's life any more miserable than it already is." really only has one interpretation, but to give it the benefit of the doubt, it could have been poorly worded. It's you I have a problem with, not the original poster.

When you stepped in to 'defend it' you intentionally recast teh statement as "f he said "make your life more miserable than it is" to another poster in any other context, no one would have a problem with it. " And I stated clearly that such a statement would not be offensive.

But the statement that WAS made, and which you tried to defend while obfuscating the obvious implications, is more akin to calling blacks stupid, farmers inbred, or natives 'savages'.

Now that I've thought long and hard about this:

*clicks post*

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Ok - I don't see how anything rbloedow or geekdrew said was offensive. At the most, they are excited that they found each other (maybe even love) on a geek forum.

Funny... there were no threads trashing geekbabe and Red Dawn's relationship when they allegedly got together. ... and nothing is grosser than old folks bonin'.

Why then are rbloedow and geekdrew treated differently?
Why was this thread created?

It is simply because they are gay. They are different from the majority of you undersexed losers, and you bigots just can't take it.

Grow a thicker skin, folks. Seek to be offended, and you shall find offense. :roll:

It is not like rbloedow posted a thread that said "OMG 9 days until I get to glaze geekdrew like a Krispy Kreme donut"

That would be offensive.

So... are ya? j/k Sorta.

But Geekbabe and Red Dawn are not gay. They are heterosexual. A normal, natural, acceptable, relationship. Of course, "normal, natural and acceptable" only pertains to 99% of the population that ARE actually "normal, natural and acceptable." I.E. not gay.

So the hell what? The thought of 2 crusty, old folks banging ass really gives me the heebies. Why is it ok to acknowledge - even celebrate their union, while denigrating a gay union?

Cripes, we're really getting down into the weeds here. Their AGE doesn't matter. She's a she and he's a he! THAT"S WHY, dammit! :roll:

We dont' have two guys alternating who's going to be the man and who's going to be the fem, depending on the night of the week. We don't have two women flipping a coin as to who's going to strap on the Pink Pussy Pounder of Poundage dildo tonight.

We have one female, one male, engaged in a natural, normal, acceptable relationship and I hope they last a long time and are happy.

You Twinkie Tweakers like to kick and scream about your Right to Protest and Exist, when in fact, you don't even know what the hell you really want yourselves!

You want social and legal license to screw anything that moves...don't know if it's got a twig and berries b/t it's legs or not, but hey, I'm an "Open Person!!!"

Well, good for you, "Open Person." Move to the jungle and conjugate your sexual verbs with the other confused animals that don't know nor care about what/who/why/how they're screwing.

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Ok - I don't see how anything rbloedow or geekdrew said was offensive. At the most, they are excited that they found each other (maybe even love) on a geek forum.

Funny... there were no threads trashing geekbabe and Red Dawn's relationship when they allegedly got together. ... and nothing is grosser than old folks bonin'.

Why then are rbloedow and geekdrew treated differently?
Why was this thread created?

It is simply because they are gay. They are different from the majority of you undersexed losers, and you bigots just can't take it.

Grow a thicker skin, folks. Seek to be offended, and you shall find offense. :roll:

It is not like rbloedow posted a thread that said "OMG 9 days until I get to glaze geekdrew like a Krispy Kreme donut"

That would be offensive.

So... are ya? j/k Sorta.

But Geekbabe and Red Dawn are not gay. They are heterosexual. A normal, natural, acceptable, relationship. Of course, "normal, natural and acceptable" only pertains to 99% of the population that ARE actually "normal, natural and acceptable." I.E. not gay.

So the hell what? The thought of 2 crusty, old folks banging ass really gives me the heebies. Why is it ok to acknowledge - even celebrate their union, while denigrating a gay union?

Cripes, we're really getting down into the weeds here. Their AGE doesn't matter. She's a she and he's a he! THAT"S WHY, dammit! :roll:

We dont' have two guys alternating who's going to be the man and who's going to be the fem, depending on the night of the week. We don't have two women flipping a coin as to who's going to strap on the Pink Pussy Pounder of Poundage dildo tonight.

We have one female, one male, engaged in a natural, normal, acceptable relationship and I hope they last a long time and are happy.

You Twinkie Tweakers like to kick and scream about your Right to Protest and Exist, when in fact, you don't even know what the hell you really want yourselves!

You want social and legal license to screw anything that moves...don't know if it's got a twig and berries b/t it's legs or not, but hey, I'm an "Open Person!!!"

Well, good for you, "Open Person." Move to the jungle and conjugate your sexual verbs with the other confused animals that don't know nor care about what/who/why/how they're screwing.

Way to completely miss his point....lol

 

[Nebor]

Michael D, you've repeatedly crossed the line of acceptable speech in this thread. Furthermore, this thread, which started out as a personal attack, and turned into a useful discussion on the social dynamic of ATOT, and now it's back to personal attacks. So time to shut this thread down.

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: GeekDrew

Originally posted by: chrisms
I think a lot of gay people don't realize that homosexuality makes people uncomfortable. It makes me uncomfortable. I don't want to see two dudes kissing, yet I don't care if a guy and a girl are kissing. So what. To me, its natural. Just like to gay people, being gay is natural. But since the majority of people are straight, you can either be flamboyant and make everyone feel uncomfortable (and in turn be somewhat of an outcast) or try to keep it to yourself and close friends. It's a fact of life, no matter how unfair.

Take that one guy on Last Comic Standing, for example. All of his material was about being gay, and for some reason people thought it was funny. I seriously wish I could punch that dude in the face. He annoys the hell out of me. I never heard one joke that entire show that didn't have to do with him being gay.

This is not directed at anyone in these forums but just something I wanted to point out since we're on the subject.

Of course I can't speak for all gays, but I *KNOW* that homosexuality makes an insanely large number of heterosexual people extremely uncomfortable.

I am not flambouyant in real life, nor has *any at all* ever asked me if I am gay IRL, without having prior knowledge - my actions and lifestyle do not give it away. However, this is an online forum - here's where I can relax, without fear of repercussion (for the most part). I don't want to be banned for anything, so I don't go too over the top... but if I were to be banned... oh well, I guess I'll spend more time elsewhere, or create a new account. Here is where I'm able to throw crap in people's faces, to get their reactions, without the risk of being physically assaulted for it (at least in the short term)... so why should I care if I make people on ATOT uncomfortable with my sexuality? I really don't intend to do that - and honestly, I hadn't talked about homosexuality a huge amount until the last couple of weeks. The difference? I realized that it's just an online community... I do value my reputation around here and on other forums, but why not act however I feel?

IRL, I do keep to myself and my friends. It would be stupid to do otherwise - there are too many insane people out there that would go apeshit if I were to be flambouyant in the wrong situation... not that I'd ever want to anyway, for that matter.

I know that this thread is about rbloedow, not myself, but your post was about gay people as a generalization - and that's what I'm responding to.

I may give bridgen a hard time about being metro sexual and may not understand how a guy can be homosexual, but I realize people are all different and all have there own desires. Don't stop posting here because a few people are narrow minded and can't see the larger picture. I appreciate having a larger audience of different individuals contributing to this forum beyond the typical virign geek we all expect. Don't be dismayed by their bigotry.

You are jumping the gun, once again. This has nothing to do with liking or disliking gays. You and many other people are failing to see that. What this has to do with is reminding everyone on internet forums about your sexuality.

My comments were not specifically meant for you...I understand where you are coming from...but you really need to put yourself in RB's shoes and realize what it is like to be the society outcast.

I really don't think he makes any more homo inuendo/jokes then we make babe/hetero jokes. Just give him a break. He's excited about being open about who he really is...and he wants to share it with us...he's not trying to offend anyone.

I understand he's not trying to offend anyone and neither am I, though GeekDrew is making it hard. What bothers me is as both GeekDrew and Rbloedow have proven, it's mostly about them. They don't care what other people think. If that's the case, why should I?

You have to give them some slack. Do you have any idea how many people attack them for being who they are.

American society as a whole looks down on the gay community and does makes them feel like secon rate citizens (unless they star on some cable rerun spiffing up hetero males). Of course they are going to be defensive and proud at times...we force them to be. Just let them be themselves just like the 100s of geeks who make YAGT threads here... They are just wanting to share a piece of their lives like anyone else.

I knew a guy in college who was as nice a guy as they come. He realized that he was gay around 18 and slowly became extremely jaded because of all the crap he would get from people for being gay. It just wasn't right. Now he feels unwanted in society because people just weren't open minded to who he was and took offense when he was around...really sad.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: chrisms
I think a lot of gay people don't realize that homosexuality makes people uncomfortable. It makes me uncomfortable. I don't want to see two dudes kissing, yet I don't care if a guy and a girl are kissing. So what. To me, its natural. Just like to gay people, being gay is natural. But since the majority of people are straight, you can either be flamboyant and make everyone feel uncomfortable (and in turn be somewhat of an outcast) or try to keep it to yourself and close friends. It's a fact of life, no matter how unfair.

Take that one guy on Last Comic Standing, for example. All of his material was about being gay, and for some reason people thought it was funny. I seriously wish I could punch that dude in the face. He annoys the hell out of me. I never heard one joke that entire show that didn't have to do with him being gay.

This is not directed at anyone in these forums but just something I wanted to point out since we're on the subject.

so what you're saying is you want gay folks to constantly monitor their thoughts & comments to make sure they aren't saying anything "gay" when you are around, so that you feel more comfortable?

 

[MisterChief]

Holy shiznit, this hasn't been locked yet! :shocked: Cool!

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: GeekDrew

Originally posted by: chrisms
I think a lot of gay people don't realize that homosexuality makes people uncomfortable. It makes me uncomfortable. I don't want to see two dudes kissing, yet I don't care if a guy and a girl are kissing. So what. To me, its natural. Just like to gay people, being gay is natural. But since the majority of people are straight, you can either be flamboyant and make everyone feel uncomfortable (and in turn be somewhat of an outcast) or try to keep it to yourself and close friends. It's a fact of life, no matter how unfair.

Take that one guy on Last Comic Standing, for example. All of his material was about being gay, and for some reason people thought it was funny. I seriously wish I could punch that dude in the face. He annoys the hell out of me. I never heard one joke that entire show that didn't have to do with him being gay.

This is not directed at anyone in these forums but just something I wanted to point out since we're on the subject.

Of course I can't speak for all gays, but I *KNOW* that homosexuality makes an insanely large number of heterosexual people extremely uncomfortable.

I am not flambouyant in real life, nor has *any at all* ever asked me if I am gay IRL, without having prior knowledge - my actions and lifestyle do not give it away. However, this is an online forum - here's where I can relax, without fear of repercussion (for the most part). I don't want to be banned for anything, so I don't go too over the top... but if I were to be banned... oh well, I guess I'll spend more time elsewhere, or create a new account. Here is where I'm able to throw crap in people's faces, to get their reactions, without the risk of being physically assaulted for it (at least in the short term)... so why should I care if I make people on ATOT uncomfortable with my sexuality? I really don't intend to do that - and honestly, I hadn't talked about homosexuality a huge amount until the last couple of weeks. The difference? I realized that it's just an online community... I do value my reputation around here and on other forums, but why not act however I feel?

IRL, I do keep to myself and my friends. It would be stupid to do otherwise - there are too many insane people out there that would go apeshit if I were to be flambouyant in the wrong situation... not that I'd ever want to anyway, for that matter.

I know that this thread is about rbloedow, not myself, but your post was about gay people as a generalization - and that's what I'm responding to.

I may give bridgen a hard time about being metro sexual and may not understand how a guy can be homosexual, but I realize people are all different and all have there own desires. Don't stop posting here because a few people are narrow minded and can't see the larger picture. I appreciate having a larger audience of different individuals contributing to this forum beyond the typical virign geek we all expect. Don't be dismayed by their bigotry.

You are jumping the gun, once again. This has nothing to do with liking or disliking gays. You and many other people are failing to see that. What this has to do with is reminding everyone on internet forums about your sexuality.

My comments were not specifically meant for you...I understand where you are coming from...but you really need to put yourself in RB's shoes and realize what it is like to be the society outcast.

I really don't think he makes any more homo inuendo/jokes then we make babe/hetero jokes. Just give him a break. He's excited about being open about who he really is...and he wants to share it with us...he's not trying to offend anyone.

I understand he's not trying to offend anyone and neither am I, though GeekDrew is making it hard. What bothers me is as both GeekDrew and Rbloedow have proven, it's mostly about them. They don't care what other people think. If that's the case, why should I?

You have to give them some slack. Do you have any idea how many people attack them for being who they are.

American society as a whole looks down on the gay community and does makes them feel like secon rate citizens (unless they star on some cable rerun spiffing up hetero males). Of course they are going to be defensive and proud at times...we force them to be. Just let them be themselves just like the 100s of geeks who make YAGT threads here... They are just wanting to share a piece of their lives like anyone else.

I knew a guy in college who was as nice a guy as they come. He realized that he was gay around 18 and slowly became extremely jaded because of all the crap he would get from people for being gay. It just wasn't right. Now he feels unwanted in society because people just weren't open minded to who he was and took offense when he was around...really sad.

I understand that. But according to some people, I'm an idiot for thinking Homosexuals have a harder life.