FYI: Jimmy Carter has won a Nobel Prize

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
ThePresence, remove the double "http://" for your link will work.

Thanx, fixed.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
Will they ever be able to rescind Arafat's prize?

Why would they want to do that? His hard work lead towards a peace that the region hasn't seen for many decades.

for the same reason, lets take the price from Peres also

the three men who got the price that year got it for their works towards peace that year, not for what they might do in the future.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: jjones
Carter had proven himself to be a much better ex-President than he was as President.

Actually he was a good president BUT surrounded himself with people of less quality.
A president is only one person. When someone becomes president hundreds if not thousands of jobs change hands. So the president will get all the blame/glory on how well things went, but in the end he may be good, but have bad staff, and sometimes the other way around.
It is now believed that Regan had early signs of Alzheimer?s in his last 2-3 years in office, BUT he had a lot of good people around him. So it was not really clear. Remember how when under oath he could not remember things? Well Nancy said he really couldn?t remember and had problems remembering other small things in their life. But again he had a lot of smart people around him.

But Carter for all that have read about him and how he did things is a very smart and good man.

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Carter is now universally admired as the best ex-president the United States has ever had.

He's probably do a better Job as President now than he did when he was in office back in the 70's . Of course most Ex Presidents would do a better job having the ability to analyze their mistakes when they were in office.

I bet Reagan would be good right about now as Pres., all covered in his own drool and wearing diapers.

On a serious topic related note. Congratulations to Carter. I talked to him once on a fishing trip, he's a very kind fellow. He's only the third American President to ever win the award also.

Any bets on Bush 2.0 ever getting the Nobel?

1. That's low...but funny!
2. Yup, he does sound like a nice guy.
3. I can imagine his acceptance speech for the peace prize: "The reason we start a war is to fight a war, win a war, thereby causing no more war!"

 

[UltraQuiet]

"It should be interpreted as a criticism of the line that the current administration has taken," Gunnar Berge, chairman of the Nobel committee, said in Norwegian. "It's a kick in the leg to all that follow the same line as the United States."

If that's the case I hope Carter tells them to stick it up their ass.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer

"It should be interpreted as a criticism of the line that the current administration has taken," Gunnar Berge, chairman of the Nobel committee, said in Norwegian. "It's a kick in the leg to all that follow the same line as the United States."

If that's the case I hope Carter tells them to stick it up their ass.

He should, but he won't, because he probably agrees with them.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Carter is now universally admired as the best ex-president the United States has ever had.

He's probably do a better Job as President now than he did when he was in office back in the 70's . Of course most Ex Presidents would do a better job having the ability to analyze their mistakes when they were in office.

Will GWB do that?

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer

"It should be interpreted as a criticism of the line that the current administration has taken," Gunnar Berge, chairman of the Nobel committee, said in Norwegian. "It's a kick in the leg to all that follow the same line as the United States."

If that's the case I hope Carter tells them to stick it up their ass.

doubtfull, because thats basicly what the Bush admin did with Carter when he went to Cuba

 

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer

"It should be interpreted as a criticism of the line that the current administration has taken," Gunnar Berge, chairman of the Nobel committee, said in Norwegian. "It's a kick in the leg to all that follow the same line as the United States."

If that's the case I hope Carter tells them to stick it up their ass.

He should, but he won't, because he probably agrees with them.

So why are they giving him the award? Because he deserves it (which he does) or because they want to stick our goverment in the eye? Of course we're talking about the same guy who went to Cuba and made a speech criticizing our goverment.

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: jjones
Carter had proven himself to be a much better ex-President than he was as President.

Yup

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer

"It should be interpreted as a criticism of the line that the current administration has taken," Gunnar Berge, chairman of the Nobel committee, said in Norwegian. "It's a kick in the leg to all that follow the same line as the United States."

If that's the case I hope Carter tells them to stick it up their ass.

He should, but he won't, because he probably agrees with them.

So why are they giving him the award? Because he deserves it (which he does) or because they want to stick our goverment in the eye? Of course we're talking about the same guy who went to Cuba and made a speech criticising our goverment.

He may deserve it, but thats not generally who recieves the award anymore. Last years winner was KOFI! It's all political. They wanted to stick out government in the eye, as you put it.

 

[Zipp]

Originally posted by: Thera



I bet Reagan would be good right about now as Pres., all covered in his own drool and wearing diapers.

Wouldn't that be real funny if it was one of your family members suffering with a disease that Ronald Reagan has. Ya that would be real funny.

 

[XMan]

I talked to him once on a fishing trip

I hope there weren't any rabbits in the water.

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: Zipp

Originally posted by: Thera



I bet Reagan would be good right about now as Pres., all covered in his own drool and wearing diapers.

Wouldn't that be real funny if it was one of your family members suffering with a disease that Ronald Reagan has. Ya that would be real funny.

It's bad when an individual doesn't deserve to have an incurable illness. My hatred for Reagan however eclipses my pity for such individuals. Maybe that makes me a bad person but there aren't enough militant liberals left in the world.

Back to topic...

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Carter is now universally admired as the best ex-president the United States has ever had.

He's probably do a better Job as President now than he did when he was in office back in the 70's . Of course most Ex Presidents would do a better job having the ability to analyze their mistakes when they were in office.

I bet Reagan would be good right about now as Pres., all covered in his own drool and wearing diapers.

On a serious topic related note. Congratulations to Carter. I talked to him once on a fishing trip, he's a very kind fellow. He's only the third American President to ever win the award also.

Any bets on Bush 2.0 ever getting the Nobel?

1. That's low...but funny!
2. Yup, he does sound like a nice guy.
3. I can imagine his acceptance speech for the peace prize: "The reason we start a war is to fight a war, win a war, thereby causing no more war!"

I Think GW's acceptance speech would be "Fool me once shame on you..Fool me...Fool me err you're not gonna fool me again"

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: Zipp

Originally posted by: Thera



I bet Reagan would be good right about now as Pres., all covered in his own drool and wearing diapers.

Wouldn't that be real funny if it was one of your family members suffering with a disease that Ronald Reagan has. Ya that would be real funny.

It's bad when an individual doesn't deserve to have an incurable illness. My hatred for Reagan however eclipses my pity for such individuals. Maybe that makes me a bad person but there aren't enough militant liberals left in the world.

Back to topic...

How's it feel to be a Wanker?

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Thera
It's bad when an individual doesn't deserve to have an incurable illness. My hatred for Reagan however eclipses my pity for such individuals. Maybe that makes me a bad person

It does...

but there aren't enough militant liberals left in the world.

So now you're a bad person for 2 reasons.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer

"It should be interpreted as a criticism of the line that the current administration has taken," Gunnar Berge, chairman of the Nobel committee, said in Norwegian. "It's a kick in the leg to all that follow the same line as the United States."

If that's the case I hope Carter tells them to stick it up their ass.

He should, but he won't, because he probably agrees with them.

So why are they giving him the award? Because he deserves it (which he does) or because they want to stick our goverment in the eye? Of course we're talking about the same guy who went to Cuba and made a speech criticizing our goverment.

Text of Carter's speech for those who've not read it.

 

[Turin39789]

Good for him. In my opinion Carter ended up being a one term president because he worked on issues(human rights etc) that werent really popular with everyone, but he did what he had to do and accepted that it might hurt him politically

 

[Red Dawn]

Text of Carter's speech for those who've not read it.

I agree with most of what he said in that speech. Personally I feel that given access to the US will only build the desire for Democracy in Cuba and will cause the events to enable that to happen to accelerate.

 

[shiner]

Unlike many here I was alive during the Carter Presidency. He was a ill prepared for the job, didn't understand what the job of President really means, didn't understand foreign policy, and as such was a lousy President. He was a brilliant man but should have never been President. He has made a great ex President and has shown his true abilities and character. I was never a fan of the man but I have to give him kudos for his post Presidency actions. Except for the Cuba thing, Castro played him in that. He deserves this award and we should all be proud of him for earning it.

Now as for Arafat, etc.. winning the award. That was a joke. That man has done more to further terrorism than probably anyone alive today.

Thera, I hope some day you come down with a debilitating disease. You probably don't even know why you hate President Reagan, someone probably just told you he was a bad man. Too bad you're clueless.

 

[Fausto]

shinerburke: I'm curious. What specifically in the Cuba speech do you disagree with?

 

[Koba1t]

Originally posted by: Fausto1
shinerburke: I'm curious. What specifically in the Cuba speech do you disagree with?

He's a democrat.

 

[Red Dawn]

Carter unfortunately was at the helm when the Iranian Revolution happened. I doubt that any President would have been able to do any better. He also inherited a bad economy from Ford which didn't help his popularity. Of course when Reagan became president and started talking about kicking some butt Americans found renewed pride in the country which helped consumer confidence and the World Community realized the the USA wasn't going to take their sh!t anymore.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: Koba1t

Originally posted by: Fausto1
shinerburke: I'm curious. What specifically in the Cuba speech do you disagree with?

He's a democrat.

I seriously doubt that. Shiner may be conservative, but he's in no way knee-jerk about it. Keep your flamebait to yourself until you actually get to know some of those here.