jayanath

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i definately want to go with a dual core processor in my upcoming build.. if i were to include a FX 60 and a card like the 7800GT would i still be able to keep the price uder $2000 and i definately need a monitor too most likely 17" LCD
what is the best intel based dual core processor
 
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Why spend $1000 on just the CPU when you can get 95% of the performance for 50% of the price if not less?

You'd be better off going with a higher end video card (or two) with the money you'd save.

I don't mean to be an a-hole, so would you explain what your intended use for this computer will be?

If there's any sort of budget other than unlimited, then an FX or EE CPU should not even be under consideration, IMO.
 

StrangerGuy

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Most of us here will recommended getting a X2 3800+ or Opteron 165 and overclock it to FX-60 speeds or beyond. Far cheaper way to get great performance.
 

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Top-of-the-line rig loses value very quickly. Today's PC is limited by the video card, NOT the MB/CPU. This $90 combo running at +2.25GHz will hold its own against any top end rig if you use a high quality video card. It doesn't come with those bells and whistles. There are five PCI slots...plenty to achieve top notch audio and video performance with add-on cards.

http://shop3.outpost.com/product/4705559
 

jayanath

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its for gaming
i will never SLI or crossfire
i want uninterupted gameplay without the game stopping at explosions
i want to go dual core right now
 

Crescent13

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Believe it or not, a CPU doesn't have all that much to do with gaming. Yes it does have some to do with it, but a Opteron 165+ a Radeon x1900XTX will be TONS faster than a FX-60 and a 7800GT.

EDIT: Opteron 165 is daul core
 
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Yeah, get an Opteron 165 and an X1900XT. You can easily overclock the 165 to 2.4 if not FX-60 speeds or higher.

You want the smoothest uninterrupted gameplay, but refuse to use Crossfire or SLI, but are willing to spend $1000 on a CPU? Sorry if I sound snobby, but that just doesn't make sense to me.

You might wait until the 7900 cards debut here in a bit and see how they fare.
 

Polish3d

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Go with an Opteron 170, DFI Lanparty SLI-DR (not Expert version) mobo, 2 gigs ram of your choosing after research, and an X1900XT
 

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I got a 3700+ (1mbcache)oced to 2750 ghz and a gto IceQ oc'ed to 530-1240 and they were $350. With 4 gigs of mem $390(win64) 2 -16 mb cache hdd's in raid 0 $200
With a case you got $1000 ,for another $175 you can get a 1800 or 7800.

Works pretty good for me.

PS thats less than the fx60 alone.
 

n7

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A64 X2 4400+ if you don't wish to OC much
Opteron 165/170 if you do
Asus A8R32 MVP Deluxe
Powercolor X1900XTX if you don't with to OC; XT if you do
 

jayanath

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i will not overclock until 1 year after purchase although it feels ok and safe i currently have
a p4overclocked from 1.8-2.0. its like this i get a brand new pc and what if i blow everything
up
i know intel is not the way for a gamer but what about pentium D
 

Fox5

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If you want the fastest gaming system, you should decide by video card first.
Since you don't want SLI or Crossfire, that leaves your choices as the Radeon X1900XTX and Geforce 7900GTX (or Geforce 7800GTX 512) as your two fastest choices, though most will go with the X1900XTX.
Next you want AMD, they are far superior for games. Since you just want dual core, your choices are....
Athlon X2 3800+ to.....I don't know what they go up to, 4600+ maybe?
As well as some of the Opterons, like the Opteron 165.
As well as the Athlon FX-60.
I'd say a 4600+ or 4400+ would be a better use of your budget, or even a 4200+.
Also, get 2 1GB sticks of PC3200 ram, since it can't be a high end gaming PC without 2GB of ram.
 

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Originally posted by: jayanath
i will not overclock until 1 year after purchase although it feels ok and safe i currently have
a p4overclocked from 1.8-2.0. its like this i get a brand new pc and what if i blow everything
up
i know intel is not the way for a gamer but what about pentium D



this doesn't make sense? So you want to wait a year before blowing it up? The amount of time doesnt really matter if you're going to fry it ...
 

mwmorph

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Originally posted by: jayanath
i will not overclock until 1 year after purchase although it feels ok and safe i currently have
a p4overclocked from 1.8-2.0. its like this i get a brand new pc and what if i blow everything
up
i know intel is not the way for a gamer but what about pentium D


petium d are horrendus for gaming.

FX60 is a giant was of mone for gaming.

Games no longer care about cpu speed, it's all about gpu power now. A Opty 165 or X2 3800+ will fit the bill fine. a X2 4400+ will do marginally better.
 

dguy6789

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Intel Dual Cores are good. However, at the higher end, AMD dual cores are a better deal. An Athlon 64 X2 3800+ or Opteron 165 will suit your needs just fine. With the money you save by going for one of the processors stated above, you can get a nicer gpu or a nicer monitor.
 

Bobthelost

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For gaming i think even the lower AMD dual cores are better performing than the intel chips, yes, for farcry and UT 2004 the 3800X2 is better performing than the 955. http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=237&model2=319&chart=71

However i'll join the rest of the herd and suggest a slower CPU, the 4800X2 runs @ 92% of the speed of the FX and costs around 65% as much. If you don't want to overclock then the 4800X2 is a much, much better idea, and the saved $ can be put towards places where you would see a difference like the graphics card.
 

djnsmith7

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If you have $2k to spend, I'd go w/ an X2-4400+, 7800 GTX or X1900XTX & 2 GB of RAM...2 250 GB HD's (Primary & Backup)...& of course, a nice Case to house everything & a more than sufficient Power Supply (Enermax Liberty 500 or equivalent)...

You can get a lot of high quality components for $2k, especially if you plan it right...

Make sure you utilize your resources (NewEgg.com, zipzoomfly.com, etc.)...

You can get the Gateway 21" LCD @ Bestbuy.com for $600...
 

Kromis

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Hmm...

Most people tell you that you should NEVER overclock if you don't know what your doing or have no experience at all. How are we suppose to buy an Opteron and overclock it if we don't know what we are doing (assuming that you don't know what you are doing)? Wouldn't it be safer to buy an FX instead of overclocking?
 

mwmorph

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Originally posted by: Kromis
Hmm...

Most people tell you that you should NEVER overclock if you don't know what your doing or have no experience at all. How are we suppose to buy an Opteron and overclock it if we don't know what we are doing (assuming that you don't know what you are doing)? Wouldn't it be safer to buy an FX instead of overclocking?

.. how would people get exprience then, everyone has to learn starting somewhere...
 

jayanath

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Originally posted by: Kromis
Hmm...

Most people tell you that you should NEVER overclock if you don't know what your doing or have no experience at all. How are we suppose to buy an Opteron and overclock it if we don't know what we are doing (assuming that you don't know what you are doing)? Wouldn't it be safer to buy an FX instead of overclocking?
i know how to OC first i didnt know what i was doing then i just changed a few numbers and boom all of a sudden i get more frames in games

staying in the topic most of u forgot about the $2k limit
how come intel sux and everybofy prefers intel.. i minght also record tv on ma pc...i dont know what i need to do this can the video card do that
onboard sound will be fine right
and BTW i dont need 100s of frames in any game 60-75 would be fine
plus i think i wont go that high with resolutions max with that comes after 1024*768 or i will just stay with 1024*768