If anyone can build award winning PC's, how come they all haven't? Our award system took a great AMD relationship plus, to get hardware like we did was not something just anyone can do. Manufacturers don't ship out unrleased product to just anyone. This system had to submited with manuals, designed to be put on the build line, drivers bundled to a point that a consumer can make them work & of course back side tech support planning... Early systems sometimes can be very hard to work all the bugs, few are able to do that correctly. On a line building PC's you can't throw just anything in and expect it to come out a success, we work with products most times well before you can buy them to allow us design/bug time.
"There is only 1 winner" & 1 is not everyone.
Any one in the system builder business knows the target is a 10 min. per build, many people work together to make this happen, several pulling parts, others scaning part & serial numbers, others build parts, others inspecting build, techs running sysprep & testing software, packers prepare for boxing, shippers box, final shipping inspection by the people running the scales, done.
Never have I said I know everything, not by far, but I know my business well, that's why I'm here and your, well where ever you are. I would never hire an employee that did NOT know there stuff well.
Rogo, has anyone ever thought of where he might work? some companies (DELL) build over 120,000 PC's each and every day. Someone has to head all that up, maybe its a guy like Rogo? Even if he's a VERY small whitebox builder (or line tech.) he could be doing about 40 to 60 PC's per day, that's common. 25,000 systems / 50 = 500 / 22 work day in a month = 22 months / 12 = 1.9 years to handle that many...
You will have to find the award on your own, (remember I do not own this company, I was the senior product/design engineer then, since of course I have become a CIO & in the middle of deciding on accepting a CEO position right now). It was not an easy road to get where I have.
...This post was never to be about me, I am NOT claiming some expert status, some of you are making it personal, seems as you yourself may lack confindence or something (don't know and don't care right now)... or else why are you worried about another Joe like myself, many here, not only are TRUE graphic experts, but are trained to a higher degree than me in some area's.
...I made a comment, listed some issues I myself had, found a few reviews showing the same, posted links and asked a question. THAT'S ALL! Don't give me that, don't make comments like that crap, why not, cause you may not like them.
I will post below some of the award, it is NOT to be reprinted, used or altered & is protected by any and all laws etc... Its only intent for for your viewing purpose since you asked. ALL company info will not be disclosed (xxx out over corp.).
LINK & CLIP AFTER THE AWARD:
http://crn.channelsupersearch.com/news/crn/9872.asp
CRN Test Center engineers were thoroughly impressed by AMD's Athlon, or K7. A 600MHz Athlon-based system outperformed all the 600MHz Pentium III systems reviewed in the CRN Test Center's Sept. 13 desktop PC roundup. Today, AMD is unveiling a 700MHz version of the Athlon processor.
THE AWARD PUB:
The CRN Test Center split its Editors' Choice award between the K7- 600 system from xxx Company, powered by Advanced Micro Devices Inc.'s Athlon processor (formerly known as the K7) on a BCM QS750 motherboard, and the Deskpro EP 6600++from Compaq Computer Corp. This is the first time the Test Center has ever awarded Editors' Choice to an AMD-based system.
Running at 600MHz, the Athlon was stunning in the Test Center's battery of benchmarks, actually beating by a considerable margin all of Intel Corp.'s 600MHz Pentium III systems on BAPCo SYSmark. The first system to ever break 500 in the Test Center labs, xxx K7-600 scored 524.
Also interesting is the fact that the Athlon system beat all of the Pentium III systems on the BYTEmark benchmark, which allows performance comparisons to be made between different platforms, such as PCs and Apple Computer Inc.'s Macintoshes. Macs usually shine on this test, and a 450MHz G3 Mac used as a baseline was about twice as fast as any Pentium III system for integer-based performance. The AMD Athlon system turned out to be even faster than the G3 for floating-point performance, but not quite as fast as the G3 at integer performance.
While a high benchmark score is impressive, all decent PCs today are more than fast enough for most applications. Serviceability and expandability are more important issues, especially to the reseller. Therefore, engineers decided serviceability and expandability would count more toward the Editors' Choice award than performance.
The Athlon's performance was so overwhelming compared with its peers that, coupled with scores for serviceability and channel program, the xxx edged out the competition.
As with all Test Center reviews, the Editors' Choice is the best combination of technical attributes and channel support. With the industry's shift toward service, the Test Center all but eliminated margin from the channel-program analysis.
In the channel, xxx gives resellers quite a bit of flexibility and services for a second-tier vendor, including dedicated account managers, extensive custom-configuration assistance and little things like a CD taped to the inside of the box with all the manuals and drivers that inevitably get lost once a system is installed. Resellers also have almost immediate technical support from Certified Novell Engineers and Microsoft Certified Systems Engineers.
and another pub... below:
Like giddy children on Christmas morning anxious to see what they got, Test Center engineers eagerly unpacked xxx 600MHz AMD K7, or Athalon system, curious about what they would find. Not only did they find a well-configured system that is easy to service, they also recorded some of the fastest benchmark scores ever observed in the Test Center. Engineers can officially report that AMD's 600MHz K7 processor is a good deal faster than 600MHz Pentium IIIs, and 650MHz units, which are already available, must be faster still.
Supposedly, AMD's future is riding on this new Athalon processor. AMD leapfrogged Intel this time, skipping an entire CPU generation, and is going for broke with this blazingly fast chip. Test Center engineers sincerely doubted that beating Intel in the CPU market was possible, but only until they saw the performance scores. Now engineers feel that AMD does have a chance of beating Intel, but only if the corporate world embraces AMD's new technology. It can sometimes be risky for IT managers to purchase high-end systems that are not Intel-based. But if the reviews remain positive over the next few months and no incompatibility issues crop up, and if AMD's pricing stays in line with Intel's, AMD could end up on top. Only time will tell.
xxx puts together a nice system. Aside from the AMD CPU, xxx K7 system was identical to its Pentium III 600 system, but with the addition of one more cooling fan necessary to better meet the K7's cooling needs. xxx tower system has a side panel that pulls off easily after removing the case's front panel. Plenty of room for expansion exists in the tower case, as it includes a total of four PCI slots and two ISA slots, one pair of which share bracket space. The motherboard also features one AGP slot and three DIMM slots for memory. The K7-600 system came equipped with 256 Mbytes of memory.
The AMD K7 CPU looks very much like an Intel Pentium II or Pentium III, and it installs in a similar, though noncompatible slot--the motherboard is specific to K7 CPUs. The K7 even has similar tie-downs that hold it in place, but with the addition of two more catches on the heat-sink side of the CPU. Engineers have more than once seen Pentium II and Pentium III systems arrive where the CPU had fallen out of its socket, so the extra tie-downs are good to have.
xxx outfitted the K7 system with two 18.2-Gbyte Western Digital UATA hard drives arranged in a fault-tolerant RAID array driven by a PCI UATA-66 controller card. The system also features a Kenwood True X 52X CD-ROM drive that reads multiple tracks at once to get around the spin-speed barrier.
The K7 system included a Creative Labs 3Dblaster Riva TNT2 Ultra, which earned the system the second highest OpenGL acceleration score of 49.34 weighted frames per second. And now for the information you have been waiting for--the system performance scores.
The AMD K7 system came out on top as far as BAPCo SYSmark goes. In preparing this article, engineers were ready to report that no system has ever broken 500 on the SYSmark score. But that was only until the K7 system was tested. The first system to ever break 500 in the Test Center labs, xxx K7-powered beast scored 524. This is a remarkable score, and the new BAPCo reference point for Windows NT systems.
Also interesting is the fact that the K7 system beat all of the Pentium III systems on the Bytemark benchmark, which allows performance comparisons to be made between different platforms, such as PCs and Macs. As it turned out, the G3 Mac was about twice as fast as any Pentium III system for integer-based performance, and about the same speed as the fastest Pentium III at floating point performance. The K7 system turned out to be even faster than the G3 for floating point performance, but only a bit faster at integer performance.
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Originally posted by: Mardeth
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Mardeth
Originally posted by: cm123
I have build over 10,000 systems including many review systems that have taken editors choice etc...
what have you done? read a few favorite review sites claim expert status?
Hahahaha, thats such an outrageous lie
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Ok, lets make some calculations here.
On average, you, as an expierienced assembler, build a computer in 2hs (installing Windows also).
Ok you I suspect you do 8 hours a day building computers, you have the weekends off and 4 weeks of holiday and misc. things a year.
Now with those facts it would take you about 11 years and 3 months to build 10,000+ computers and these are optimistic figures. Very unlikely I would say, and considering the way you type you cant be much older than 12... But hey, maybe you were talented and started at 7 months old...
Rogo said he has built 25000 machines. Are you going to call him a liar also? I have probably built over 1000 computers since 1993 and that was in my
spare time. And it might take you 2 hours to build a computer, but it only takes 15 to 20 minutes for an experienced PC builder. The OS of course takes an additional hour or so, but not if you use disk images, sysprep, network installs and such.
Just because you can't do things, doesn't mean other people can't do them either.
The day I say someone build a computer from "scratch" in 15mins is the day I die.
By scratch I mean that you have to put all the skrews, artic ice stuff, all the wires by hand with only basic tools. But if the whole process took under 1h it could very well be true. Im just irritated by this, "I know everything, you know nothing cos Ive build over 10000 computers and some award winning bla bla".
C'mon, who couldnt build a award winning computer? You just basicly put the best components in a computer and voila! It has nothing to do with skill (of course you have to have basic knowledge), only money in my opinion. If there cap on how much money you can use it gets toughter but still not very hard.
I maybe got this wrong, if so, sorry.
Could I see a link of this award thing?
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