FX-8370 - non E version few tests

[DrMrLordX]

But then AM3+ and 32nm would stop to exist with whatever consequence that would have to both AMD and GloFo. Well more to GloFo since 32nm SOI was strictly used by AMD alone.

Sounds to me like AMD should go 32nm for their chipsets. Of course, then you have 65nm fab capacity going idle, and if AMD had previously planned to switch to 45nm for their chipsets, then that gets screwed up too.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Sounds to me like AMD should go 32nm for their chipsets. Of course, then you have 65nm fab capacity going idle, and if AMD had previously planned to switch to 45nm for their chipsets, then that gets screwed up too.

Its hard to justify additional spending for a deadend product that is slowly being phased out.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Its hard to justify additional spending for a deadend product that is slowly being phased out.

Well, I didn't specifically mean that they should go 32nm for their AM3+ chipsets. I'm just saying, hey, go 32nm for all your chipsets. What you said seemed to indicate everything up to A88x was either 65nm or 55nm depending on the presence of an iGPU. Maybe I read what you said wrong.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Well, I didn't specifically mean that they should go 32nm for their AM3+ chipsets. I'm just saying, hey, go 32nm for all your chipsets. What you said seemed to indicate everything up to A88x was either 65nm or 55nm depending on the presence of an iGPU. Maybe I read what you said wrong.

I talked about AM3/AM3+ chipsets.

There needs to be a reason to go lower. Going 32nm or 28nm just for the sake of saving 2W on the desktop makes no sense. Then its cheaper to stay on 65nm.

Saving 2W for mobile, now thats a whole other matter.

 

[Abwx]

I talked about AM3/AM3+ chipsets.

There needs to be a reason to go lower. Going 32nm or 28nm just for the sake of saving 2W on the desktop makes no sense. Then its cheaper to stay on 65nm.

Saving 2W for mobile, now thats a whole other matter.

That s much more than 2W, the 990X combo has about 26W max TDP, as a comparison Intel s X99 is below 7W, Z97 is about 4.1W iirc, AMD s FM2+ are all specced at 7.8W although that seems rather a Kabini like spec where they used the top TDP for all variants.

 

[crashtech]

Personally I do not care much about the chipset at this point, I just want to see a faster CPU microarchitecture.

 

[Abwx]

CPU is powerfull enough, what is needed are better threaded softs, and not only for AMD, Intel CPUs do well because of ST perfs but biggers ones are just as much underused as the AMD 8C, check core scalings with a few games.

Some bizzaro scaling for the FX in Watchdog, btw.

http://www.hardware.fr/focus/101/perfs-avec-2-4-6-8-coeurs-4-jeux-loupe.html

 

[crashtech]

CPU is powerfull enough, what is needed are better threaded softs, and not only for AMD, Intel CPUs do well because of ST perfs but biggers ones are just as much underused as the AMD 8C, check core scalings with a few games.

Some bizzaro scaling for the FX in Watchdog, btw.

http://www.hardware.fr/focus/101/perfs-avec-2-4-6-8-coeurs-4-jeux-loupe.html

Yeah, we've been hearing and saying that for years but the pace has been very slow, and ultimately some software just won't benefit from multithreading. At some point I gave up waiting and sold my old dual CPU rig for pennies on the dollar.