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drpootums

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Just spend $600 if u want top of the line and get a 4000+. THG had some benches (or was it AMD Review) but anyways, the FX-55 and the 4000+ were basically tied. Something that fast is probably extremely bottlenecked by all the other components (except in games i suppost, but u wont notice a difference between the two)
 

VideoQuasar

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Originally posted by: drpootums
Just spend $600 if u want top of the line and get a 4000+. THG had some benches (or was it AMD Review) but anyways, the FX-55 and the 4000+ were basically tied. Something that fast is probably extremely bottlenecked by all the other components (except in games i suppost, but u wont notice a difference between the two)


I think he wants the Top Dog. The FX-53 is the next best thing at that price because it's unlocked. You don't want second fiddle do ya Geforcer!

 

Geforcer

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Originally posted by: VideoQuasar
Originally posted by: drpootums
Just spend $600 if u want top of the line and get a 4000+. THG had some benches (or was it AMD Review) but anyways, the FX-55 and the 4000+ were basically tied. Something that fast is probably extremely bottlenecked by all the other components (except in games i suppost, but u wont notice a difference between the two)


I think he wants the Top Dog. The FX-53 is the next best thing at that price because it's unlocked. You don't want second fiddle do ya Geforcer!

lol, well I might have to take 2nd :p I'm tired of waiting, and there's no telling how long it'll be until I'll be able to get one. Think I'm gonna go the FX-53 if I can't find a FX-55 by Monday or Tuesday at latest. The peeps I got the video card from sent the wrong one, so I have to RMA it. Hopefully they'll cross ship it and get it by about Wednesday. If they do, then I'll go ahead and order whichever CPU I can so it'll be here by the time the video card gets here :p
 

shira

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Originally posted by: aeternitas

Hey, if you like the feel of AMD assramming you for something you can get for free, dont PMS at me ;)

A simple question to see if you really believe this: If YOU had some item that was in short supply, that you paid (say) $100 for, but could sell it for $800 a pop, would YOU sell it for $200? Or would you charge what the market would bear?

I thought so. So why are you railing on AMD?

 

Aries64

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Is it moral to charge 800$ for an FX55 sweetheart?
Yes. There is nothing wrong with charging $800.00 for an FX-55. In fact, you are lucky to find a new OEM at that price. You are confusing morality with capitalism. Oc'ing a CPU or videocard, then RMA'ing it when you have a problem down the road is immoral.

The problem is that $800.00+ IS A LOT OF MONEY. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. And most people cannot afford that. So they cry and cry about how immoral it is for AMD and Intel to charge so much for their top-of-the-line processors, saying how they can OC their AMD 3200+ or P4 3.2C to faster than a stock FX-55.

What do you want AMD to do? Sell the FXs' for $400.00 and the 3500+ for $300.00? That would be nice, but thats' not reasonable. Is the price/performance ratio worth it? Maybe not. For someone who doesn't have the time, patience, desire, luck (not all CPUs will OC reliably to FX-55 speeds), experience, or want the hassle to overclock but want to have cutting-edge performance maybe. Even if it is for only a short period of time.

For someone who enjoys the above-mentioned OCing, has the time, and is willing to spend the time and effort into getting his or her system stable while overclocking it definitely isn't worth it. So OC all you want, but if you fry a CPU or videocard don't RMA it while bitching about how immoral vendors are for selling their top-of-the-line processors at a premium.

bragging to whom? Other clueless n00bs with cash to burn? OC does not void the warranty, give me a brake n00bcake.
Talk about clueless n00bcake. Don't assume people are noobs just because they can afford a high-end CPU. For you edification OC'ing voids the warranty. AMD and Intel know people will probably do this - look at the unlocked multiplier on the FXs', but they don't condon it. What if AMD and Intel start integrating some type of module that registers the highest input voltage the CPU ran at and can be read even after a CPU fails?

I never RMAed a bad OCed CPU in my life, n00bcake. Assumtions a child will make.
Even if this is true, lots of people on forums such as this one will, so you are pretty much condoning this. Several people on this forum have stated they're intentions to do this. And others have also tried RMA'ing because their processors would OC as high as they had hoped.

I don't believe in personal attacks over the net but in this case I'll make an exception for aeternitas. I'll keep it clean and simple - Clueless n00bcake, Moron, Bonehead, Candidate for Idiot of the Millenium.
 

justly

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Originally posted by: Aries64
Is it moral to charge 800$ for an FX55 sweetheart?
Yes. There is nothing wrong with charging $800.00 for an FX-55. In fact, you are lucky to find a new OEM at that price. You are confusing morality with capitalism. Oc'ing a CPU or videocard, then RMA'ing it when you have a problem down the road is immoral.

The problem is that $800.00+ IS A LOT OF MONEY. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. And most people cannot afford that. So they cry and cry about how immoral it is for AMD and Intel to charge so much for their top-of-the-line processors, saying how they can OC their AMD 3200+ or P4 3.2C to faster than a stock FX-55.

What do you want AMD to do? Sell the FXs' for $400.00 and the 3500+ for $300.00? That would be nice, but thats' not reasonable. Is the price/performance ratio worth it? Maybe not. For someone who doesn't have the time, patience, desire, luck (not all CPUs will OC reliably to FX-55 speeds), experience, or want the hassle to overclock but want to have cutting-edge performance maybe. Even if it is for only a short period of time.

For someone who enjoys the above-mentioned OCing, has the time, and is willing to spend the time and effort into getting his or her system stable while overclocking it definitely isn't worth it. So OC all you want, but if you fry a CPU or videocard don't RMA it while bitching about how immoral vendors are for selling their top-of-the-line processors at a premium.

bragging to whom? Other clueless n00bs with cash to burn? OC does not void the warranty, give me a brake n00bcake.
Talk about clueless n00bcake. Don't assume people are noobs just because they can afford a high-end CPU. For you edification OC'ing voids the warranty. AMD and Intel know people will probably do this - look at the unlocked multiplier on the FXs', but they don't condon it. What if AMD and Intel start integrating some type of module that registers the highest input voltage the CPU ran at and can be read even after a CPU fails?

I never RMAed a bad OCed CPU in my life, n00bcake. Assumtions a child will make.
Even if this is true, lots of people on forums such as this one will, so you are pretty much condoning this. Several people on this forum have stated they're intentions to do this. And others have also tried RMA'ing because their processors would OC as high as they had hoped.

I don't believe in personal attacks over the net but in this case I'll make an exception for aeternitas. I'll keep it clean and simple - Clueless n00bcake, Moron, Bonehead, Candidate for Idiot of the Millenium.

Even though you are 100% correct he will not understand such a detailed post (after all he apparently can't comprehend or write anything that doesn't resemble a one-liner).
 

Geforcer

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Originally posted by: Aries64
I'm not quite sure what I'm gonna do yet, but if I can't get ahold of one soon, I might just end up getting a FX-53 or 4000+. Still debating though.
Micro Center still has the deal of the FX-53 for the "bargain" price of $719.99. Expensive, but probably one of the best prices on a Retail FX-53 you'll find right now from a reputable company. The (Retail) 4000+ is $40.00 less at $679.99 but does not have the fully unlocked multiplier of the FX processors.

Heres a link to the AMD sale stuff at Micro Center:
http://www.microcenter.com/sea...d&dropdown_keyword=amd



Have you ordered from them before? Are they reliable and trustworthy? I'm thinking of going for the good deal, but they don't turn up in any price comparison places I search. Not to mention they say "Limited availability. May not be in stock at time of order. No back orders.". It's only $40 more than the 4000+, so can't hurt to get it. Any opinions on this retailer?
 

MrK6

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I'm sorry, I don't know the retailer, but I feel I should just add my two cents in here. Aeternitas is, in fact, an idiot, and I agree with everything Aries64 said. Now I can't afford an FX, so I ended up getting a 3000+ S754 in July. Do I lash out at people with more money than I have, and call them idiots because they want top of the line or aren't into overclocking for performance? No, cause I'm not a moron or a SPAMer. However, I would like to point out that a 4000+ is actually the best deal, no matter how much money one has. If I'm not mistaken, all A64's have lower multipliers, but only the FX's have all multipliers. How often in overclocking (if that is in fact, your intention Geforcer) does one increase the multiplier? Isn't the highest stable FSB or RAM speed the target, then adding a multiplier that also makes the CPU run close to it's limit? The 4000+ is a better buy, because the only difference between it and the FX-55 is it doesn't have the higher multipliers, which seem unneeded. If one wants to keep everything at stock, it seems that both the FX-55 and 4000+ are right on par with each other, despite the 200Mhz speed difference. All in all, I think you should consider the 4000+, which is well in stock almost everywhere.
 

Aries64

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Have you ordered from them before? Are they reliable and trustworthy? I'm thinking of going for the good deal, but they don't turn up in any price comparison places I search. Not to mention they say "Limited availability. May not be in stock at time of order. No back orders.". It's only $40 more than the 4000+, so can't hurt to get it. Any opinions on this retailer?
Geforcer - sorry, but I can't say that I have ordered online from Micro Center. They are, however, a trustworthy and reputable company. I took my first visit to one of Micro Center's 20 (twenty) retail stores last month. One of my older brothers' goes there all the time. I convinced him to return his $380.00 X800 Pro he had purchased and get the Visiontek Xtasy X800 XT (non-PE) they had on sale for $400.00. Yes $400.00! Great deal.

Anyway, follow this link to the Micro Center Online web site and check to see where the closest store is to you. Then look in the upper left-hand corner under "Fast Finds". There you will see a link to the store locations. You may be able to pick-up the FX-53 or 4000+ in person if you want to. Either way, you can get Micro Center's SKU (part number) off their web site and then call and see which store(s) have what you want in stock. Then you can either pick-up in person or order online. Here you go...

http://www.microcenter.com/
And heres a link to the FX-53:
http://www.microcenter.com/sin...tml?product_id=0177598
Heres a link to the 4000+:
http://www.microcenter.com/sin...tml?product_id=0181081

I just called the Irvine, California store where my brother bought his videocard last month. They are now sold out of the card (they had 8 when my brother bought his) and the FX-53. They have the 4000+. If you want the FX-53, maybe you'll get lucky and find one at another store. You should hurry, according to the Micro Center rep I spoke to THE SALE ENDS TOMORROW.

Also, MrK6 has made valid points too. He pointed-out that the 4000+ is unlocked downward on the multiplier, and that the 4000+ may be the best value. The 4000+ is really an FX-53 without the FULLY UNLOCKED multiplier. It is UNLOCKED DOWNWARD, BUT NOT UPWARD. The FX-53 and FX-55 are fully unlocked (both up and down). This gives you a little more flexibilty for overclocking, as you can up the FSB and reduce the multiplier. This seems to be the most popular way to reach the OC people are trying for while maintaining stability.

Whatever you decide, good luck in your quest!