FWD and applying the brakes in slippery conditions

[Asharus]

I was going about 60-70MPH on the highway, and while I was approaching the next "convoy", I lightly applied the brakes. Next thing I know, the speedometer reads "0". I let go of the brakes and then I felt the transmission shift a couple of times back to 50-60MPH. LOL, does this usually happen to you FWD owners? ABS brakes are still not required as a standard option for new cars?

BTW, this is a 2002 Neon that I rented for a couple of days.

 

[malbojah]

Turn the wheel slightly and pull up on the e-brake next time

 

[ElFenix]

ummm... no, that never happens. you had a rental neon. and no, abs is not required.

 

[Asharus]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
ummm... no, that never happens. you had a rental neon. and no, abs is not required.

Are you saying this only happens on Neon rentals?

 

[jsbush]

lol.

This will happen on any car if the wheels lock. How else is the speedometer supposed to get a reading?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Asharus

Originally posted by: ElFenix
ummm... no, that never happens. you had a rental neon. and no, abs is not required.

Are you saying this only happens on Neon rentals?

with bald tires

edit: you'd have to be an idiot to lock your brakes on the freeway

 

[jsbush]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Asharus

Originally posted by: ElFenix
ummm... no, that never happens. you had a rental neon. and no, abs is not required.

Are you saying this only happens on Neon rentals?

with bald tires

edit: you'd have to be an idiot to lock your brakes on the freeway

Why?
As long as you keep the wheel straight, you can slam on the breaks as much as you want. If you do that whille turning then yeah thtas stupid, on any road not just the freeway.


The best part of winter driving is getting into those tight parking spaces, using the ebrak. No backing required!

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: jsbush

Why?
As long as you keep the wheel straight, you can slam on the breaks as much as you want. If you do that whille turning then yeah thtas stupid, on any road not just the freeway.


The best part of winter driving is getting into those tight parking spaces, using the ebrak. No backing required!

and if you weren't driving like a maniac in the rain you wouldn't have to slam on the brakes.

 

[Asharus]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: jsbush

Why?
As long as you keep the wheel straight, you can slam on the breaks as much as you want. If you do that whille turning then yeah thtas stupid, on any road not just the freeway.


The best part of winter driving is getting into those tight parking spaces, using the ebrak. No backing required!

and if you weren't driving like a maniac in the rain you wouldn't have to slam on the brakes.

I was going about 60-70MPH on the highway, and while I was approaching the next "convoy", I lightly applied the brakes.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Asharus


I was going about 60-70MPH on the highway, and while I was approaching the next "convoy", I lightly applied the brakes.

you say that. maybe the tires were just completely bald. maybe.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Asharus


I was going about 60-70MPH on the highway, and while I was approaching the next "convoy", I lightly applied the brakes.

you say that. maybe the tires were just completely bald. maybe.

What? Bald tires? On a rental? NevAr!



- M4H

 

[Asharus]

That and there was snow on the ground = )

Plus the right rear blinker bulb is out... Thank God I'm returning this car after work!!

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
What? Bald tires? On a rental? NevAr!



- M4H

i'm more willing to put my faith in a rental car company than your average ATOTer



EDIT: if that blinker is out you should demand your money back. there is an implied warranty that the thing will be fit for the road, and if it doesn't have its lights working properly then it is not fit. especially get your money back if the car fails the penny test

 

[Antisocial Virge]

I must say if your doing 60-70mph and a light touch on the brakes locked up your tires.. YOUR GOING TOO FAST.

 

[Asharus]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
What? Bald tires? On a rental? NevAr!



- M4H

i'm more willing to put my faith in a rental car company than your average ATOTer



EDIT: if that blinker is out you should demand your money back. there is an implied warranty that the thing will be fit for the road, and if it doesn't have its lights working properly then it is not fit. especially get your money back if the car fails the penny test

Is this true? Can I find this implied warranty in the paperwork I signed that's sitting in the passenger seat? I'm not sure if the tires are bald, but the blinker is definitely out. I'm pretty sure it's the rear one too, that's why I'm always extra careful when I'm switching over to the right lane.

 

[Asharus]

Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge
I must say if your doing 60-70mph and a light touch on the brakes locked up your tires.. YOUR GOING TOO FAST.

I'll admit that I was going faster than all the other cars, but the road was straight. I was coming up to the next bunch of vehicles (thanks to the asshat in the left lane) when I started slowing down. I give myself plenty of room and I know what I'm doing! Simple rules of physics....

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Asharus

Is this true? Can I find this implied warranty in the paperwork I signed that's sitting in the passenger seat? I'm not sure if the tires are bald, but the blinker is definitely out. I'm pretty sure it's the rear one too, that's why I'm always extra careful when I'm switching over to the right lane.

umm... no, you wouldn't, that is why it's implied and not express. they may have a disclaimer of implied warranties in the sales contract.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: jsbush

Why?
As long as you keep the wheel straight, you can slam on the breaks as much as you want. If you do that whille turning then yeah thtas stupid, on any road not just the freeway.


The best part of winter driving is getting into those tight parking spaces, using the ebrak. No backing required!

?!? I have been in very few stock cars that will track absolutely straight during a brake lock....this is only the case if both front and rear are balanced and all wheels are getting equal traction. Add ice or sand and I can demostrate that rarely a car will continue straight when all four wheels are locked.


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[Asharus]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Asharus

Is this true? Can I find this implied warranty in the paperwork I signed that's sitting in the passenger seat? I'm not sure if the tires are bald, but the blinker is definitely out. I'm pretty sure it's the rear one too, that's why I'm always extra careful when I'm switching over to the right lane.

umm... no, you wouldn't, that is why it's implied and not express. they may have a disclaimer of implied warranties in the sales contract.

How do you suggest I go about this when I return the vehicle later? LOL, and I was just thinking of just letting them know that the blinker is out, now I'm gonna try to stiff them for my money back. That's $60 bucks back for me for a two day rental!

 

[CraigRT]

I've only seen that on cars without ABS if the wheels stop spinning... did you feel the pedal pulsing?
my 2001 Neon has great ABS, it works really well and you KNOW when it comes on.

 

[XZeroII]

You should have been killed. It's retards like you that cause major accidents when it's slippery out. Next time, do us all a favor and turn the wheel and just drive off a bridge (make sure there are no people below).

 

[Asharus]

Originally posted by: CraigRT
I've only seen that on cars without ABS if the wheels stop spinning... did you feel the pedal pulsing?
my 2001 Neon has great ABS, it works really well and you KNOW when it comes on.

Yeah, the pedal did not pulse, that's how I knew that it had no ABS. BTW, the Neon ain't a bad car. I was surprised how comfortable it was for a small car. I dunno about the rear, but I was fine in the cockpit, and I'm 6'1".

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Asharus

Originally posted by: CraigRT
I've only seen that on cars without ABS if the wheels stop spinning... did you feel the pedal pulsing?
my 2001 Neon has great ABS, it works really well and you KNOW when it comes on.

Yeah, the pedal did not pulse, that's how I knew that it had no ABS. BTW, the Neon ain't a bad car. I was surprised how comfortable it was for a small car. I dunno about the rear, but I was fine in the cockpit, and I'm 6'1".

I know about the rear. If you're over 5'6", you won't be comfortable.

- M4H

 

[Asharus]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
You should have been killed. It's retards like you that cause major accidents when it's slippery out. Next time, do us all a favor and turn the wheel and just drive off a bridge (make sure there are no people below).

LOL so you were one of the several people clogging up the road, huh? Can you do us a favor and not use the passing lane when you're planning on going the same speed as the other two lanes. Damn asshats!