Fvcking Unappreciated at Work

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maziwanka

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Originally posted by: lozina
It's pretty sellfish of your coworker not to have referenced you in the meeting once he declared he was unavailable. coworker = scumbag. And yes, you really should've spoken up.

yea. for the most part he's a nice guy, but i think im starting to realize the true nature of ppl in the business world.

not that the legal field is any better, but i'm glad to be leaving finance.
 

Ninjja

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Originally posted by: AdamSnow
Want some free advice on how to succeed in the business world ?

Make yourself noticed. You need to speak up, make sure they know who you are... Don?t ride the boat and wait for them to see you, be aggressive and speak up. When he say's "I'll be away on Vacation" you need to speak up and mention that you are very knowledgeable with the information as you have been working on the project from the get-go, you can supply all information required and there is no need for the meeting to be cancelled while your co-worker is on vacation.

Sooner rather then later, they will realize who you are, that you are in the same situation, and soon they will be sad that you are going on vacation... :)

Yes exactly! I just told maziwanka this. I know him, and he's seriously one of the most naturally smart kids here (ask aharami too). But mazi, you gotta speak up then and there. I think the email was good, but really you shold have said something! It won't hurt and they probably just don't even know if you feel confident enough to talk about it, because you don't volunteer to. Just let them know. Everybody's had a first job before and they know what it's like. But they also recognise initiative when they see it, and you have to demonstrate that.

EDIT: typos
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: torpid
Too little information to choose your side. Just because you do a lot of work and know things does not mean you would be able to contribute to a meeting in the same way the other guy could. He might be significantly better at explaining things to people, organizing requirements, appeasing users, pragmatic assessments, etc.

Sounds like you are pretty antagonistic from this forum alone. "unfortunately" in your alleged email is passive aggressive. I'd probably rather have the 20%er in my meeting too, based on your posts. Doing high volume and/or quality of work while having an attitude problem is a sure way to be "underapprciated". I say that from personal experience.

i definitely do not have an attitude problem. i've always been pleasant to work with.

the problem here is my passive nature. i think i tend to stay quiet because i'm the "newest" member of the team. although the email is passive agressive, i think it was a step in the right direction. i do realize that i should have said something during the meeting, but since i missed my opportunity, i feel i did the next best thing.

Well on this forum you display an attitude problem about work. I have a feeling it comes off at work even be it through passive aggressive behavior. It also sounds like you don't yet understand the difference between being technically competent and doing your job well.
 

Ninjja

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Most employers don't appreciate you fvcking in the office - it opens up all sorts of harassment suits.

- M4H

lol
 

Ninjja

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Sep 4, 2003
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Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: torpid
Too little information to choose your side. Just because you do a lot of work and know things does not mean you would be able to contribute to a meeting in the same way the other guy could. He might be significantly better at explaining things to people, organizing requirements, appeasing users, pragmatic assessments, etc.

Sounds like you are pretty antagonistic from this forum alone. "unfortunately" in your alleged email is passive aggressive. I'd probably rather have the 20%er in my meeting too, based on your posts. Doing high volume and/or quality of work while having an attitude problem is a sure way to be "underapprciated". I say that from personal experience.

i definitely do not have an attitude problem. i've always been pleasant to work with.

the problem here is my passive nature. i think i tend to stay quiet because i'm the "newest" member of the team. although the email is passive agressive, i think it was a step in the right direction. i do realize that i should have said something during the meeting, but since i missed my opportunity, i feel i did the next best thing.

Well on this forum you display an attitude problem about work. I have a feeling it comes off at work even be it through passive aggressive behavior. It also sounds like you don't yet understand the difference between being technically competent and doing your job well.


I can vouch for Maziwanka though. His attitude is top notch, and as i mentioned in my previous post, he is seriously one of the smartest people one can meet and is headed for the top. He's too modest though, and I think people can take advantage of it. So i'll just clear up the fact with you that his is both technically competent and does his job very well.
 

maziwanka

Lifer
Jul 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: torpid
Too little information to choose your side. Just because you do a lot of work and know things does not mean you would be able to contribute to a meeting in the same way the other guy could. He might be significantly better at explaining things to people, organizing requirements, appeasing users, pragmatic assessments, etc.

Sounds like you are pretty antagonistic from this forum alone. "unfortunately" in your alleged email is passive aggressive. I'd probably rather have the 20%er in my meeting too, based on your posts. Doing high volume and/or quality of work while having an attitude problem is a sure way to be "underapprciated". I say that from personal experience.

i definitely do not have an attitude problem. i've always been pleasant to work with.

the problem here is my passive nature. i think i tend to stay quiet because i'm the "newest" member of the team. although the email is passive agressive, i think it was a step in the right direction. i do realize that i should have said something during the meeting, but since i missed my opportunity, i feel i did the next best thing.

Well on this forum you display an attitude problem about work. I have a feeling it comes off at work even be it through passive aggressive behavior. It also sounds like you don't yet understand the difference between being technically competent and doing your job well.

simply stated, work doesn't interest me. i guess my lack of enthusiasm might come out in certain ways in my interactions at work. however, i do realize the difference between tech competence and doing a job well. my main problem at work is my quiet nature.
 

Jzero

Lifer
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I don't know about you, but my appreciation comes every month in the form of a generous wire transfer of a few thousand ducats straight to my bank account. You're welcome, boss.
 

aidanjm

Lifer
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Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: Kev
way to send an email!

hahaha! i feel good about it. laura (her name), wrote back and said she would definitely take me up on that offer. hahahahaha.

So you've got a good result from being a bit more assertive and promoting yourself and your abilities to the boss. This is a good outcome, right?
 

maziwanka

Lifer
Jul 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: Kev
way to send an email!

hahaha! i feel good about it. laura (her name), wrote back and said she would definitely take me up on that offer. hahahahaha.

So you've got a good result from being a bit more assertive and promoting yourself and your abilities to the boss. This is a good outcome, right?

yea definitely. she's in constant contact with the MDs around the world, so my name should pop up if there's a discussion on the project.
 

Ninjja

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Sep 4, 2003
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Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: maziwanka
Originally posted by: Kev
way to send an email!

hahaha! i feel good about it. laura (her name), wrote back and said she would definitely take me up on that offer. hahahahaha.

So you've got a good result from being a bit more assertive and promoting yourself and your abilities to the boss. This is a good outcome, right?

yea definitely. she's in constant contact with the MDs around the world, so my name should pop up if there's a discussion on the project.

nice. see that what I'm (and everyone else) is talking about! The thing is, like I just told you, you missed an opportunity to make this known to all the other global managers during the meeting. Enxt time just speak up then and there.
 

jjones

Lifer
Oct 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I don't recall giving you permission to stop working, peon.

j/k Burn down the office.
Don't forget to take the stapler.

 

cerebusPu

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Ive been feeling the same thing like you for the past few months, just today when i was going to call in sick i found out that i got a 10% raise. now i feel bad about calling in sick. lol
 

meltdown75

Lifer
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Originally posted by: cerebusPu
Ive been feeling the same thing like you for the past few months, just today when i was going to call in sick i found out that i got a 10% raise. now i feel bad about calling in sick. lol

u called in sick? i took a snow day and apparently i'm the only one at my office who did so. LOL

OP if your peers have any character judgement ability whatsoever, they will sense your willingness to contribute and it will pay off for you in the future. what's more is you're young @ 23 and everyone above you in age, seniority and experience knows that you're the future. hang in there
 

maziwanka

Lifer
Jul 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: cerebusPu
Ive been feeling the same thing like you for the past few months, just today when i was going to call in sick i found out that i got a 10% raise. now i feel bad about calling in sick. lol

u called in sick? i took a snow day and apparently i'm the only one at my office who did so. LOL

OP if your peers have any character judgement ability whatsoever, they will sense your willingness to contribute and it will pay off for you in the future. what's more is you're young @ 23 and everyone above you in age, seniority and experience knows that you're the future. hang in there

yea but i'll be leaving in a couple months to go back to school. ppl don't know yet...