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Fvcking umps cheat and the White Sox win Game 2
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BeauJangles
Lifer
it's classy, but not true. Oh well, that's baseball i guess.
Gunslinger08
Lifer
No, it doesn't. The sound also reveals only one sound -- not the ball hitting the ground and then the glove. Also, the batter started running back to the dugout at first. It was obvious to everyone in the park that it was a clean strikeout.
PlatinumGold
Lifer
:roll:
be a homer all you want but SHEESH, don't lie.
the ball NEVER it the ground. it was a CLEAR out. this is one of the worst calls i've ever seen.
InverseOfNeo
Diamond Member
About this play...
The Facts
1. Umpire signaled an out...which would have been inning over.
2. Ball did not hit ground first.
3. Even Pierzynski started going back to the dugout before going to first (see below).
The Theory
1. Pierzynski could have been called out by not staying in the base line. He started going back to the dugout, even crossing homeplate (left handed hitter).
2. It was a close call...Pierzynski sold the umpire by turning around and running to first. However, Josh Paul (Angels Catcher) should have thrown it anyway (a mistake that one of the Molina brothers probably wouldnt have made). In addition, if Pierzynski had turned straight for first, Paul would have tagged Pierzynski or thrown to first. But Pierzynski went toward the dugout first, Josh Paul was already in the motion of tossing the ball toward pitching mound and running to the dugout.
This is obviously a controversial call that wont be forgotten or talked about.
The Facts
1. Umpire signaled an out...which would have been inning over.
2. Ball did not hit ground first.
3. Even Pierzynski started going back to the dugout before going to first (see below).
The Theory
1. Pierzynski could have been called out by not staying in the base line. He started going back to the dugout, even crossing homeplate (left handed hitter).
2. It was a close call...Pierzynski sold the umpire by turning around and running to first. However, Josh Paul (Angels Catcher) should have thrown it anyway (a mistake that one of the Molina brothers probably wouldnt have made). In addition, if Pierzynski had turned straight for first, Paul would have tagged Pierzynski or thrown to first. But Pierzynski went toward the dugout first, Josh Paul was already in the motion of tossing the ball toward pitching mound and running to the dugout.
This is obviously a controversial call that wont be forgotten or talked about.
herkulease
Diamond Member
the problem I think is this ump has strange motions.
throughout the game he pumps/throws his fist for strikes. I'm accustomed to seeing them point to the side like towards first for strikes.
Baseball as Harold reynolds points out needs Uniformed rules for what motion is what. the fist pump may be accepted by everyone as an out but there's no rule and each ump can use their own style. the only one you can be sure every ump uses is the safe signal.
Lets me honest here, we all have the benefit of going frame by frame. And even then it looks extremely close. Fox only showed that zoom in shot once after the play happen.
Bad calls happen, move on and get the next guy.
Esocbar was on all and simply float one for crede. before AJ he got 3 straight strike outs. with the 3rd strike being horrible pitches to swing at.
throughout the game he pumps/throws his fist for strikes. I'm accustomed to seeing them point to the side like towards first for strikes.
Baseball as Harold reynolds points out needs Uniformed rules for what motion is what. the fist pump may be accepted by everyone as an out but there's no rule and each ump can use their own style. the only one you can be sure every ump uses is the safe signal.
Lets me honest here, we all have the benefit of going frame by frame. And even then it looks extremely close. Fox only showed that zoom in shot once after the play happen.
Bad calls happen, move on and get the next guy.
Esocbar was on all and simply float one for crede. before AJ he got 3 straight strike outs. with the 3rd strike being horrible pitches to swing at.
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