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Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
Remember, 1986?
The Yankees are not in the World Series yet.
26-6 though.![]()
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Nah it's over. Red Sox don't have the pitching this season. I have no hope in Beckett turning things around today
Originally posted by: BCYL
I don't think the Yankees OR the Red Sox will go far this post-season... neither team has the pitching to get it done
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
Remember, 1986?
The Yankees are not in the World Series yet.
26-6 though.![]()
They won't get by the A's, Tigers of White Sox if they do make it to the playoffs.
The A's don't scare me.Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
Remember, 1986?
The Yankees are not in the World Series yet.
26-6 though.![]()
They won't get by the A's, Tigers of White Sox if they do make it to the playoffs.
Agreed. If I was a betting man, I'd bet that the series winner will be out of the AL Central.
Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
Yankees Sweep;
But Don't forget, that Detroit is doing great this year.
The Angels sure didn't mind last year. Nothing has changed for the starting pitching of NY except Big Unit is a little older and suckier and Moose is overachieving.Originally posted by: rpbri2886
Originally posted by: BCYL
I don't think the Yankees OR the Red Sox will go far this post-season... neither team has the pitching to get it done
Would you want to face Mussina - Wang - Johnson in a short series?
Originally posted by: Fiat1
Red Sox fan you're season is OVER
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Nah it's over. Red Sox don't have the pitching this season. I have no hope in Beckett turning things around today
It's getting harder to be mad at the Yankees
August 21, 2006
The Yankees have come to Fenway, dominated the Red Sox, and pretty much sealed the division's fate for 2006.
Here's the problem. You hate them . . . you always have. You hate them because your father did, because your brother did . . . you hate them because they've always been really good, almost always better than your team. Sometimes they've been downright unlikable, as well: egomaniacs like Reggie, 'roid punks like Giambi, grumpy SOBs like The Big Unit. But always, in addition to all the other stuff, you had the business side at which to scoff. The gluttonous way they gobbled up every free agent they could, whether it seemed to make sense or not. The way they attacked the trading deadline, hoarding pieces poor teams had no choice but to toss away. Then they would throw all these expensive pieces against the wall like a bucket of paint . . . let's see what sticks. "Now that is no way to run a team," you said to each other. It felt right to hate them.
For Red Sox fans like me, that justifiable arrogance is gone. Now, as they beat the crap out of you, as they put up 39 runs in 3 games, as their big free agent Damon (from your team, no less), and their big deadline deal guy Abreu (who you whiffed at) absolutely kill your squad, you have no business gluttony to sneer at. Why? Because your organization has done the very same things over the past 5 years or so. You won in 2004 with a store-bought squad, full of trade acquisitions, full of other people's good development, led by the biggest free agent pitcher of the era in Schilling. You are Evil Empire B, and now must face the grimmest of truths.
The Yankees simply did it better.
Brian Cashman has done a great job -- with every resource imaginable, sure, but they are resources you had, too. The New Yawk offense already was the most patient in the game, already the toughest for a pitcher to face, then they added Abreu, the guy who takes more pitches than anyone in the league. The combined results have been unsurprisingly fatiguing. Starters drop and flail, maybe just out of fear and intimidation. Hell, your big get Beckett walked nine of them Saturday. Nine. Bullpens wither amid long, luxurious at-bats, like Timlin did twice this weekend.
Theo Epstein is trying to have it both ways. He says that every year won't be an "uber-team," that some development must take place. It all smells like excuses now that a division lead is gone and a deadline came and went with thorough inactivity.
The only solace? The Yankees pitching is not good enough to win a title. They'll win the division, but give me Detroit, Minnesota, or Chicago's staff ahead of New York's in a playoff series.
Thin solace, that. Cue "Taps."
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Good article in The Sporting News.
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It's getting harder to be mad at the Yankees
August 21, 2006
The Yankees have come to Fenway, dominated the Red Sox, and pretty much sealed the division's fate for 2006.
Here's the problem. You hate them . . . you always have. You hate them because your father did, because your brother did . . . you hate them because they've always been really good, almost always better than your team. Sometimes they've been downright unlikable, as well: egomaniacs like Reggie, 'roid punks like Giambi, grumpy SOBs like The Big Unit. But always, in addition to all the other stuff, you had the business side at which to scoff. The gluttonous way they gobbled up every free agent they could, whether it seemed to make sense or not. The way they attacked the trading deadline, hoarding pieces poor teams had no choice but to toss away. Then they would throw all these expensive pieces against the wall like a bucket of paint . . . let's see what sticks. "Now that is no way to run a team," you said to each other. It felt right to hate them.
For Red Sox fans like me, that justifiable arrogance is gone. Now, as they beat the crap out of you, as they put up 39 runs in 3 games, as their big free agent Damon (from your team, no less), and their big deadline deal guy Abreu (who you whiffed at) absolutely kill your squad, you have no business gluttony to sneer at. Why? Because your organization has done the very same things over the past 5 years or so. You won in 2004 with a store-bought squad, full of trade acquisitions, full of other people's good development, led by the biggest free agent pitcher of the era in Schilling. You are Evil Empire B, and now must face the grimmest of truths.
The Yankees simply did it better.
Brian Cashman has done a great job -- with every resource imaginable, sure, but they are resources you had, too. The New Yawk offense already was the most patient in the game, already the toughest for a pitcher to face, then they added Abreu, the guy who takes more pitches than anyone in the league. The combined results have been unsurprisingly fatiguing. Starters drop and flail, maybe just out of fear and intimidation. Hell, your big get Beckett walked nine of them Saturday. Nine. Bullpens wither amid long, luxurious at-bats, like Timlin did twice this weekend.
Theo Epstein is trying to have it both ways. He says that every year won't be an "uber-team," that some development must take place. It all smells like excuses now that a division lead is gone and a deadline came and went with thorough inactivity.
The only solace? The Yankees pitching is not good enough to win a title. They'll win the division, but give me Detroit, Minnesota, or Chicago's staff ahead of New York's in a playoff series.
Thin solace, that. Cue "Taps."
Originally posted by: pmoa
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Nah it's over. Red Sox don't have the pitching this season. I have no hope in Beckett turning things around today
has 2004 taught you nothing???? come on mang give the team a lil support...we still have a month of baseball left (well sorta)
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
The Angels sure didn't mind last year. Nothing has changed for the starting pitching of NY except Big Unit is a little older and suckier and Moose is overachieving.Originally posted by: rpbri2886
Originally posted by: BCYL
I don't think the Yankees OR the Red Sox will go far this post-season... neither team has the pitching to get it done
Would you want to face Mussina - Wang - Johnson in a short series?
That's true, but they didn't lose the series because of one play. They did not pitch well.Originally posted by: rpbri2886
The Yankees had that series won, if it were not for Bubba Crosby colliding with Sheff in right-center.Originally posted by: SP33Demon
The Angels sure didn't mind last year. Nothing has changed for the starting pitching of NY except Big Unit is a little older and suckier and Moose is overachieving.Originally posted by: rpbri2886
Originally posted by: BCYL
I don't think the Yankees OR the Red Sox will go far this post-season... neither team has the pitching to get it done
Would you want to face Mussina - Wang - Johnson in a short series?
Originally posted by: ThePresence
That's true, but they didn't lose the series because of one play. They did not pitch well.Originally posted by: rpbri2886
The Yankees had that series won, if it were not for Bubba Crosby colliding with Sheff in right-center.Originally posted by: SP33Demon
The Angels sure didn't mind last year. Nothing has changed for the starting pitching of NY except Big Unit is a little older and suckier and Moose is overachieving.Originally posted by: rpbri2886
Originally posted by: BCYL
I don't think the Yankees OR the Red Sox will go far this post-season... neither team has the pitching to get it done
Would you want to face Mussina - Wang - Johnson in a short series?
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
How do you lose to Ponson? That guy SUCKS.
Fvcking red sox pitching sucks ass. Thank god for the Patriots.
God damn yankees
