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Originally posted by: MichaelD
I'm sorry that your meds have that effect on you.

That said:

If I know that the train I take to work is 15 minutes late EVERY morning, no matter what, I leave at least 15 minutes early to make up for it.

Your meds making you sleepy and making it difficult for you to get up in the morning is NOT an excuse for being late. Period. Your Prof is right; it's not his job to determine the side effects of your meds. That's YOUR JOB, buddy.

Judging by your avatar, I'd say you are a med student; you should know better, slacker.
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FTW...by think about it if you are in med school and your class was a surgery you were due for.

2-3 mins won't matter for most possibly, but for a few it's all the time in the world.


 
Originally posted by: Huntress
I commend your professor... he is emulating life.

Grow up you puss. Figure out how to live up to your responsibilities. If you are late to work consistantly you will loose your job, and that looks in my book to be a waste of your education. He might be saving you in the long run.
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With only the minor difference that you actually PAY for college?

If I'm paying for something, I expect a certain amount of courtesy.
 
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: Huntress
I commend your professor... he is emulating life.

Grow up you puss. Figure out how to live up to your responsibilities. If you are late to work consistantly you will loose your job, and that looks in my book to be a waste of your education. He might be saving you in the long run.
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With only the minor difference that you actually PAY for college?

If I'm paying for something, I expect a certain amount of courtesy.
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Probably so do the other students in the class.

I am all for being a f'up even into the Junior year...but once in 4000 level classes and beyond, most are there for the last yard.
 
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: Huntress
I commend your professor... he is emulating life.

Grow up you puss. Figure out how to live up to your responsibilities. If you are late to work consistantly you will loose your job, and that looks in my book to be a waste of your education. He might be saving you in the long run.
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With only the minor difference that you actually PAY for college?

If I'm paying for something, I expect a certain amount of courtesy.
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You pay for an education, the degree you have to EARN. He got exactly what he paid for.
 
one thing I hated college about were those retarded professors who TOOK ROLL CALL. ... what is this High School? Since when is it their problem if we attend or not. I hated classes that were like that.

danny~!
 
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: jdini76
you say you metaboblize medication slowly, and you get to the class late because you have overeslet. If that is so, then if you take your medicine right after you get up, then the medication will not have taken affect by the time you reach class anyway. if you are able to understand the professor in this cass, then why are you on the medication in the first place?
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none of that made sense.
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Just re-read it myself, yea, it is kind of confusing.

I may have been getting metabolizing, and affectiveness confused. I was trying to make a point by asking if you actually need the medication to concentrate. Because if you get up right before class, and take your med, will it even be working by the time you get to class? which can't be more than 10 minutes after you swallow the pills.

 
Originally posted by: MichaelD
I'm sorry that your meds have that effect on you.

That said:

If I know that the train I take to work is 15 minutes late EVERY morning, no matter what, I leave at least 15 minutes early to make up for it.

Your meds making you sleepy and making it difficult for you to get up in the morning is NOT an excuse for being late. Period. Your Prof is right; it's not his job to determine the side effects of your meds. That's YOUR JOB, buddy.

Judging by your avatar, I'd say you are a med student; you should know better, slacker.
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Originally posted by: DannyLove
one thing I hated college about were those retarded professors who TOOK ROLL CALL. ... what is this High School? Since when is it their problem if we attend or not. I hated classes that were like that.

danny~!
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After my 2nd year, my University instituted mandatory roll call for every class. The associate and newer professors stuck to this, of course; whereas the tenured professors ignored it and usually just checked every one off regardless.

If you're in grad school or professional school, you will be in class if you want to pass. So attendance doesn't "matter." I think the OP still imagines himself an undergrad.
 
Hmmm.. strange. I remember having 5-10 minute grace time in which to arrive to class, the grace period depending on each professor. Get the proof of the medicines effects from your doctor and take it to the highest person in the uni admin whom you can contact.
 
Originally posted by: mattpegher
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: mattpegher
Being an Emergency physician, I see you do not know of what you speak. Only we ER physicians and hospitalist work in such a manner. The other docs may take call but there 24 hr coverage is from home. And we hate it when our relief arrives late. How would you like it after a 12 or 24 hour shift to be relieved late, especially when it usually takes 15 minutes to sign out all the patients. Making people wait usually leads to a lawsuit in our business.
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My fiancee is a doctor... a resident in pediatrics... She has q4 call quite often... 30+ hour shifts... and I promise you, neither her, nor any of her fellow residents even notice +- 3 minutes...
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You might not believe it now but residency is only a minute period of her professional life. But you are right that during residency most of us had to do call, often 36 hour shift and frequently q4days. Maybe 2 minutes doesn't matter but a pattern of lateness does begin to irritate your coworkers.
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I'm pretty realistic about the whole medical profession...

But let's pause a minute to really examine this situation...

First of all as a doctor do you ever really show up at your "start" time? I would guess that you don't, you probably show up way earlier, because you have other stuff to take care of before you even get started for the day. Having said that... if during the course of 3 months you show up at 8:03 when you're supposed to show up at 8:00... absolutely NOTHING is going to happen to you. And as long as you managed to get all your stuff done... noone would ever ever say anything to you about it.

-Max
 
Originally posted by: Thorny
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: Huntress
I commend your professor... he is emulating life.

Grow up you puss. Figure out how to live up to your responsibilities. If you are late to work consistantly you will loose your job, and that looks in my book to be a waste of your education. He might be saving you in the long run.
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With only the minor difference that you actually PAY for college?

If I'm paying for something, I expect a certain amount of courtesy.
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You pay for an education, the degree you have to EARN. He got exactly what he paid for.
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Agreed, but I expect just and fair treatment while earning it. In my opinion, a required class at 7:20 is already cruel and unusual punishment, but a professor failing you for being a minute late at that time of the morning a few times is absolutely absurd.
 
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: Thorny
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: Huntress
I commend your professor... he is emulating life.

Grow up you puss. Figure out how to live up to your responsibilities. If you are late to work consistantly you will loose your job, and that looks in my book to be a waste of your education. He might be saving you in the long run.
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With only the minor difference that you actually PAY for college?

If I'm paying for something, I expect a certain amount of courtesy.
Click to expand...


You pay for an education, the degree you have to EARN. He got exactly what he paid for.
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Agreed, but I expect just and fair treatment while earning it. In my opinion, a required class at 7:20 is already cruel and unusual punishment, but a professor failing you for being a minute late at that time of the morning a few times is absolutely absurd.
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It was more than a few, the op said it was 9 times. In a trimester that is like a 3rd of the time. What would absurd is if the professor doesn't stick to his own rules. It would also be unfair to the rest of the students who actually made a conscious effort to follow the rules.
 
I think your best bet is to have the doctor write a letter stating the medicine is creating a disability.

I took some allergy medicine once that did pretty much the same thing.

Accomidating you for being a couple mins late on a occassion is reasonable.

Good Luck.
 
Originally posted by: BD2003
I also think its painfully ironic that its an academic professor who is a stickler for punctuality, when they on the other hand, can decide their day however the hell they please.

Gotta love academia...I come in to work "around 9" and leave "around 5".
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I just love the fact that at a University the proffesors, i.e. the employees, get to park their cars right up front, and the students, i.e. the customers, get to park in the back of the parking lot, and have to pay for a parking sticker. Universities are rackets and the leech money from anything and anyone they can, and everyone seems to be perfectly ok with that.

I still think this guy is full of crap. His dope isn't making him just one or two minutes late, I don't care if you're hitting the crack pipe the night before and passing out, you are gonna be on time, or massively late, but the one or two minute thing is just being an irresponsible fvck that wants special treatment, get a louder alarm clock and quit posting here at 4am on a school night.
 
Originally posted by: DannyLove
one thing I hated college about were those retarded professors who TOOK ROLL CALL. ... what is this High School? Since when is it their problem if we attend or not. I hated classes that were like that.

danny~!
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Because some of us are not tenured, and thus, have to abide by university policy if we want to continue to work there. Don't like the policy? Blame the university, not the professor (though some of us are complete assholes, but those are the ones who went through grad school with a complete asshole for an advisor).

 
Originally posted by: firewall
Hmmm.. strange. I remember having 5-10 minute grace time in which to arrive to class, the grace period depending on each professor. Get the proof of the medicines effects from your doctor and take it to the highest person in the uni admin whom you can contact.
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i'm getting a letter from my doctor showing that the medication causes chronic insomnia which would make it difficult for me to be on time everyday for a 7:20 class.
 
Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: Thorny
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: Huntress
I commend your professor... he is emulating life.

Grow up you puss. Figure out how to live up to your responsibilities. If you are late to work consistantly you will loose your job, and that looks in my book to be a waste of your education. He might be saving you in the long run.
Click to expand...

With only the minor difference that you actually PAY for college?

If I'm paying for something, I expect a certain amount of courtesy.
Click to expand...


You pay for an education, the degree you have to EARN. He got exactly what he paid for.
Click to expand...

Agreed, but I expect just and fair treatment while earning it. In my opinion, a required class at 7:20 is already cruel and unusual punishment, but a professor failing you for being a minute late at that time of the morning a few times is absolutely absurd.
Click to expand...

It was more than a few, the op said it was 9 times. In a trimester that is like a 3rd of the time. What would absurd is if the professor doesn't stick to his own rules. It would also be unfair to the rest of the students who actually made a conscious effort to follow the rules.
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no, it's a fifth of the time.
 
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: firewall
Hmmm.. strange. I remember having 5-10 minute grace time in which to arrive to class, the grace period depending on each professor. Get the proof of the medicines effects from your doctor and take it to the highest person in the uni admin whom you can contact.
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i'm getting a letter from my doctor showing that the medication causes chronic insomnia which would make it difficult for me to be on time everyday for a 7:20 class.
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You are studying to be a doctor. When/If you start your internship/residency, the schedule they set you would be much harsher than a constant 7:20 am schedule. Are you going to use the doctor's note as a clutch through the rest of your term?
 
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