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RichardE

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Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: D1gger
I am astounded how many people in this thread can't see that being late for work/school is unacceptable behaviour.

I run my own construction business, and many times my overall crew cost will be over $1,000 per hour. If my lead operator is late a few minutes, the entire crew stands there waiting for the work to begin, costing the company significant money. This is not acceptable behaviour and I have fired more than one otherwise good employee because they couldn't get their act together and show up on time.

In my office, I expect everyone to arrive on time unless they have let me know ahead of time they have another commitment. If one person starts showing up late, and consistently gets away with it, other employees will start to stretch the rules as well. If someone needs to arrive late or leave early, I am more than willing to give them the time, but don't try to take it for granted without asking first.

Secondly, sure school is not quite the same, but a good professor will be trying to instill the correct habits in his students from day one. If he says be on time, that is the rule, no exceptions. If he starts making an exception for the OP for 2 minutes 9 times in a semester, next semester someone will be asking for 5 minutes 10 times.

Regardless of it being only 2 minutes late, it can be extremely disruptive to everyone else attending the class or meeting. Everything stops while all eyes go to the door to see who is late and watch them find a chair and settle in. It is human nature.

In university, I had a prof who stood by the door until class time, and then closed it. He made it clear that if you weren't in the room when the door closed, you better not open it unless you were there to warn them of a fire. If you were 5 seconds late, you missed the class. Sure, I ranted about it to my friends, but I learned my lesson and I was in my seat before the door closed 99.9% of the time.

edit: for typos.

And I think people like you are blow hard, lying idiots.

I really enjoy how your perspective is the only truth. Must makes things nice and easy for you, huh big guy? :laugh:

It really does.... and I really am right... and you really are wrong.;)


everyone in this thread is pulling the typical ATOT perfectionist nonsense...

blah blah I'm a grown up, and grown ups are never late... blah blah blah... if you're 1 minute late the world could blow up... blah blah blah.... I fire people if they show up 2 minutes late blah blah blah I'm full of ****** but on the intraweb I can be whatever I want. blah blah blah

No..some of us actually live by these rules, and force the people under us too. Again, you got a lukcy job where you can slack off without anyone caring, I know a few people like that. Jobs such as that I don't want to work, job's that require decipline you don't want to work, we can understand each other. It is not the typical ATOT holier than thou response, most of us who are supervisors/bosses/professionals live the life by the clock, and if we are late, we will be fired.

point blank.... I don't believe you really live to that extreme.

point blank.. I do.

 

Doboji

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: D1gger
I am astounded how many people in this thread can't see that being late for work/school is unacceptable behaviour.

I run my own construction business, and many times my overall crew cost will be over $1,000 per hour. If my lead operator is late a few minutes, the entire crew stands there waiting for the work to begin, costing the company significant money. This is not acceptable behaviour and I have fired more than one otherwise good employee because they couldn't get their act together and show up on time.

In my office, I expect everyone to arrive on time unless they have let me know ahead of time they have another commitment. If one person starts showing up late, and consistently gets away with it, other employees will start to stretch the rules as well. If someone needs to arrive late or leave early, I am more than willing to give them the time, but don't try to take it for granted without asking first.

Secondly, sure school is not quite the same, but a good professor will be trying to instill the correct habits in his students from day one. If he says be on time, that is the rule, no exceptions. If he starts making an exception for the OP for 2 minutes 9 times in a semester, next semester someone will be asking for 5 minutes 10 times.

Regardless of it being only 2 minutes late, it can be extremely disruptive to everyone else attending the class or meeting. Everything stops while all eyes go to the door to see who is late and watch them find a chair and settle in. It is human nature.

In university, I had a prof who stood by the door until class time, and then closed it. He made it clear that if you weren't in the room when the door closed, you better not open it unless you were there to warn them of a fire. If you were 5 seconds late, you missed the class. Sure, I ranted about it to my friends, but I learned my lesson and I was in my seat before the door closed 99.9% of the time.

edit: for typos.

And I think people like you are blow hard, lying idiots.

I really enjoy how your perspective is the only truth. Must makes things nice and easy for you, huh big guy? :laugh:

It really does.... and I really am right... and you really are wrong.;)


everyone in this thread is pulling the typical ATOT perfectionist nonsense...

blah blah I'm a grown up, and grown ups are never late... blah blah blah... if you're 1 minute late the world could blow up... blah blah blah.... I fire people if they show up 2 minutes late blah blah blah I'm full of ****** but on the intraweb I can be whatever I want. blah blah blah

And you fail to comprehend what we're actually saying. We're not saying we're perfect. We just don't bitch and moan about something that was in our control to fix, and what we probably should've fixed.

Whether you like it or not, 3 minutes can mean the difference. It could be between passing and failing a class or between having your job and losing it. If a boss wants to be a prick and fire you, he'd have plenty of leverage with you being late 3 mintues or more 9 times in a few months. Another situation is where companies have punch clocks. Go over +/- 3 minutes, and you get a point. Get too many points in a certain amount of time, you're gone.

I comprehend exactly what you're saying.... half of it I agree with... the OP has noone to blame but himself for being in this predicament. However I don't agree that him showing up 3 minutes late is the problem here... I think showing up 3 minutes late for a college class is perfectly acceptable. I think the problem here is the OP's inability to realize he was in a situation that would imperil him... and his failure to get out of it.

And more than anything I don't agree with the blow hards here who rag about how he's a spoiled little brat and how the real world is blah blah... because the real world isn't... and I'm sick of hearing people bullsh!t that it is. I'm sure there are extreme cases where you absolutely cannot be even 1 minute late... but these are extreme cases... and not the norm by any stretch of the imagination.

-Max
 

Atomicus

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Originally posted by: JM Aggie08
theoretically, he can do that. Must be a souless demond though, to not understand your situation. I'd still fight it though, just doesnt seem right.

Yea, FIGHTO!

Take it up to judicial affairs if need be. You could argue that accomodations for those with handicaps or other physical/mental impairments are made yet your situation doesn't apply? Get that note from your doc and ask if he'll speak on your behalf. When the board hears what a douchebag that professor is, the professor better bend that rule of his. Or you can speak out to the campus newspaper and have the student body hiss and jeer at him when they pass him by.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: D1gger
I am astounded how many people in this thread can't see that being late for work/school is unacceptable behaviour.

I run my own construction business, and many times my overall crew cost will be over $1,000 per hour. If my lead operator is late a few minutes, the entire crew stands there waiting for the work to begin, costing the company significant money. This is not acceptable behaviour and I have fired more than one otherwise good employee because they couldn't get their act together and show up on time.

In my office, I expect everyone to arrive on time unless they have let me know ahead of time they have another commitment. If one person starts showing up late, and consistently gets away with it, other employees will start to stretch the rules as well. If someone needs to arrive late or leave early, I am more than willing to give them the time, but don't try to take it for granted without asking first.

Secondly, sure school is not quite the same, but a good professor will be trying to instill the correct habits in his students from day one. If he says be on time, that is the rule, no exceptions. If he starts making an exception for the OP for 2 minutes 9 times in a semester, next semester someone will be asking for 5 minutes 10 times.

Regardless of it being only 2 minutes late, it can be extremely disruptive to everyone else attending the class or meeting. Everything stops while all eyes go to the door to see who is late and watch them find a chair and settle in. It is human nature.

In university, I had a prof who stood by the door until class time, and then closed it. He made it clear that if you weren't in the room when the door closed, you better not open it unless you were there to warn them of a fire. If you were 5 seconds late, you missed the class. Sure, I ranted about it to my friends, but I learned my lesson and I was in my seat before the door closed 99.9% of the time.

edit: for typos.

And I think people like you are blow hard, lying idiots.

I really enjoy how your perspective is the only truth. Must makes things nice and easy for you, huh big guy? :laugh:

It really does.... and I really am right... and you really are wrong.;)


everyone in this thread is pulling the typical ATOT perfectionist nonsense...

blah blah I'm a grown up, and grown ups are never late... blah blah blah... if you're 1 minute late the world could blow up... blah blah blah.... I fire people if they show up 2 minutes late blah blah blah I'm full of ****** but on the intraweb I can be whatever I want. blah blah blah

And you fail to comprehend what we're actually saying. We're not saying we're perfect. We just don't bitch and moan about something that was in our control to fix, and what we probably should've fixed.

Whether you like it or not, 3 minutes can mean the difference. It could be between passing and failing a class or between having your job and losing it. If a boss wants to be a prick and fire you, he'd have plenty of leverage with you being late 3 mintues or more 9 times in a few months. Another situation is where companies have punch clocks. Go over +/- 3 minutes, and you get a point. Get too many points in a certain amount of time, you're gone.

I comprehend exactly what you're saying.... half of it I agree with... the OP has noone to blame but himself for being in this predicament. However I don't agree that him showing up 3 minutes late is the problem here... I think showing up 3 minutes late for a college class is perfectly acceptable. I think the problem here is the OP's inability to realize he was in a situation that would imperil him... and his failure to get out of it.

And more than anything I don't agree with the blow hards here who rag about how he's a spoiled little brat and how the real world is blah blah... because the real world isn't... and I'm sick of hearing people bullsh!t that it is. I'm sure there are extreme cases where you absolutely cannot be even 1 minute late... but these are extreme cases... and not the norm by any stretch of the imagination.

-Max

Your job is not the majority, it is the exception. :)
 

Doboji

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May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: D1gger
I am astounded how many people in this thread can't see that being late for work/school is unacceptable behaviour.

I run my own construction business, and many times my overall crew cost will be over $1,000 per hour. If my lead operator is late a few minutes, the entire crew stands there waiting for the work to begin, costing the company significant money. This is not acceptable behaviour and I have fired more than one otherwise good employee because they couldn't get their act together and show up on time.

In my office, I expect everyone to arrive on time unless they have let me know ahead of time they have another commitment. If one person starts showing up late, and consistently gets away with it, other employees will start to stretch the rules as well. If someone needs to arrive late or leave early, I am more than willing to give them the time, but don't try to take it for granted without asking first.

Secondly, sure school is not quite the same, but a good professor will be trying to instill the correct habits in his students from day one. If he says be on time, that is the rule, no exceptions. If he starts making an exception for the OP for 2 minutes 9 times in a semester, next semester someone will be asking for 5 minutes 10 times.

Regardless of it being only 2 minutes late, it can be extremely disruptive to everyone else attending the class or meeting. Everything stops while all eyes go to the door to see who is late and watch them find a chair and settle in. It is human nature.

In university, I had a prof who stood by the door until class time, and then closed it. He made it clear that if you weren't in the room when the door closed, you better not open it unless you were there to warn them of a fire. If you were 5 seconds late, you missed the class. Sure, I ranted about it to my friends, but I learned my lesson and I was in my seat before the door closed 99.9% of the time.

edit: for typos.

And I think people like you are blow hard, lying idiots.

I really enjoy how your perspective is the only truth. Must makes things nice and easy for you, huh big guy? :laugh:

It really does.... and I really am right... and you really are wrong.;)


everyone in this thread is pulling the typical ATOT perfectionist nonsense...

blah blah I'm a grown up, and grown ups are never late... blah blah blah... if you're 1 minute late the world could blow up... blah blah blah.... I fire people if they show up 2 minutes late blah blah blah I'm full of ****** but on the intraweb I can be whatever I want. blah blah blah

And you fail to comprehend what we're actually saying. We're not saying we're perfect. We just don't bitch and moan about something that was in our control to fix, and what we probably should've fixed.

Whether you like it or not, 3 minutes can mean the difference. It could be between passing and failing a class or between having your job and losing it. If a boss wants to be a prick and fire you, he'd have plenty of leverage with you being late 3 mintues or more 9 times in a few months. Another situation is where companies have punch clocks. Go over +/- 3 minutes, and you get a point. Get too many points in a certain amount of time, you're gone.

I comprehend exactly what you're saying.... half of it I agree with... the OP has noone to blame but himself for being in this predicament. However I don't agree that him showing up 3 minutes late is the problem here... I think showing up 3 minutes late for a college class is perfectly acceptable. I think the problem here is the OP's inability to realize he was in a situation that would imperil him... and his failure to get out of it.

And more than anything I don't agree with the blow hards here who rag about how he's a spoiled little brat and how the real world is blah blah... because the real world isn't... and I'm sick of hearing people bullsh!t that it is. I'm sure there are extreme cases where you absolutely cannot be even 1 minute late... but these are extreme cases... and not the norm by any stretch of the imagination.

-Max

Your job is not the majority, it is the exception. :)

Well I guess we'll have to see what the rest of ATOT says about that
 

BigJ

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Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: D1gger
I am astounded how many people in this thread can't see that being late for work/school is unacceptable behaviour.

I run my own construction business, and many times my overall crew cost will be over $1,000 per hour. If my lead operator is late a few minutes, the entire crew stands there waiting for the work to begin, costing the company significant money. This is not acceptable behaviour and I have fired more than one otherwise good employee because they couldn't get their act together and show up on time.

In my office, I expect everyone to arrive on time unless they have let me know ahead of time they have another commitment. If one person starts showing up late, and consistently gets away with it, other employees will start to stretch the rules as well. If someone needs to arrive late or leave early, I am more than willing to give them the time, but don't try to take it for granted without asking first.

Secondly, sure school is not quite the same, but a good professor will be trying to instill the correct habits in his students from day one. If he says be on time, that is the rule, no exceptions. If he starts making an exception for the OP for 2 minutes 9 times in a semester, next semester someone will be asking for 5 minutes 10 times.

Regardless of it being only 2 minutes late, it can be extremely disruptive to everyone else attending the class or meeting. Everything stops while all eyes go to the door to see who is late and watch them find a chair and settle in. It is human nature.

In university, I had a prof who stood by the door until class time, and then closed it. He made it clear that if you weren't in the room when the door closed, you better not open it unless you were there to warn them of a fire. If you were 5 seconds late, you missed the class. Sure, I ranted about it to my friends, but I learned my lesson and I was in my seat before the door closed 99.9% of the time.

edit: for typos.

And I think people like you are blow hard, lying idiots.

I really enjoy how your perspective is the only truth. Must makes things nice and easy for you, huh big guy? :laugh:

It really does.... and I really am right... and you really are wrong.;)


everyone in this thread is pulling the typical ATOT perfectionist nonsense...

blah blah I'm a grown up, and grown ups are never late... blah blah blah... if you're 1 minute late the world could blow up... blah blah blah.... I fire people if they show up 2 minutes late blah blah blah I'm full of ****** but on the intraweb I can be whatever I want. blah blah blah

And you fail to comprehend what we're actually saying. We're not saying we're perfect. We just don't bitch and moan about something that was in our control to fix, and what we probably should've fixed.

Whether you like it or not, 3 minutes can mean the difference. It could be between passing and failing a class or between having your job and losing it. If a boss wants to be a prick and fire you, he'd have plenty of leverage with you being late 3 mintues or more 9 times in a few months. Another situation is where companies have punch clocks. Go over +/- 3 minutes, and you get a point. Get too many points in a certain amount of time, you're gone.

I comprehend exactly what you're saying.... half of it I agree with... the OP has noone to blame but himself for being in this predicament. However I don't agree that him showing up 3 minutes late is the problem here... I think showing up 3 minutes late for a college class is perfectly acceptable. I think the problem here is the OP's inability to realize he was in a situation that would imperil him... and his failure to get out of it.

And more than anything I don't agree with the blow hards here who rag about how he's a spoiled little brat and how the real world is blah blah... because the real world isn't... and I'm sick of hearing people bullsh!t that it is. I'm sure there are extreme cases where you absolutely cannot be even 1 minute late... but these are extreme cases... and not the norm by any stretch of the imagination.

-Max

Your job is not the majority, it is the exception. :)

Well I guess we'll have to see what the rest of ATOT says about that

So first you knock ATOT's "perfectionist" attitude, and now you turn to it for results?
 

MrPickins

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Originally posted by: Doboji

Well I guess we'll have to see what the rest of ATOT says about that

ATOT is not an accurate cross-section of working individuals.

Edited to remove nested quotes.
 

Doboji

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Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: Doboji

Well I guess we'll have to see what the rest of ATOT says about that

ATOT is not an accurate cross-section of working individuals.

Edited to remove nested quotes.

Oh for godsakes... what do I have to do go stand out in the street with a camera and interview a thousand people? No sorry... atot will have to do.
 

cKGunslinger

Lifer
Nov 29, 1999
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Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Doboji

And I think people like you are blow hard, lying idiots.

I really enjoy how your perspective is the only truth. Must makes things nice and easy for you, huh big guy? :laugh:

It really does.... and I really am right... and you really are wrong.;)


everyone in this thread is pulling the typical ATOT perfectionist nonsense...

blah blah I'm a grown up, and grown ups are never late... blah blah blah... if you're 1 minute late the world could blow up... blah blah blah.... I fire people if they show up 2 minutes late blah blah blah I'm full of ****** but on the intraweb I can be whatever I want. blah blah blah
Ah yes, as opposed to the sensible, realistic poster who claims that they would "go Hulk" and smash car windshields with bricks, push elderly men down stairwells, then go to their house and ejaculate on his widow's face while making her sing his collegeate fight song as he beats his bare chest with one hand and eats a turkey drumstick with the other, eh?

As big as you might be IRL, your web persona seems to be even larger. :D

 

Doboji

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Doboji

And I think people like you are blow hard, lying idiots.

I really enjoy how your perspective is the only truth. Must makes things nice and easy for you, huh big guy? :laugh:

It really does.... and I really am right... and you really are wrong.;)


everyone in this thread is pulling the typical ATOT perfectionist nonsense...

blah blah I'm a grown up, and grown ups are never late... blah blah blah... if you're 1 minute late the world could blow up... blah blah blah.... I fire people if they show up 2 minutes late blah blah blah I'm full of ****** but on the intraweb I can be whatever I want. blah blah blah
Ah yes, as opposed to the sensible, realistic poster who claims that they would "go Hulk" and smash car windshields with bricks, push elderly men down stairwells, then go to their house and ejaculate on his widow's face while making her sing his collegeate fight song as he beats his bare chest with one hand and eats a turkey drumstick with the other, eh?

As big as you might be IRL, your web persona seems to be even larger. :D

oh man... you just made me spit my Soy Milk all over the table!!! :laugh:

I do admit.... my hulkster initial response was..... ridiculous. But that sh!t really does make me angry.

 

SampSon

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Wow, you guys are a bunch of very angry people. Doboji is definitely the angriest by a long shot.

OP, you know how the guy plays the game, so you have to play by his rules. Excuses arn't going to help you with this, so just get to class on time.
 

cKGunslinger

Lifer
Nov 29, 1999
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Originally posted by: Doboji
And more than anything I don't agree with the blow hards here who rag about how he's a spoiled little brat and how the real world is blah blah... because the real world isn't... and I'm sick of hearing people bullsh!t that it is. I'm sure there are extreme cases where you absolutely cannot be even 1 minute late... but these are extreme cases... and not the norm by any stretch of the imagination.

-Max
Who the fvck cares if he's late? It's not even about the tardiness, it's about the fact that ground rules were set at the onset of the class, everyone seemed to meet those rules except the OP, who now feels entitled to special treatment because he failed.

I don't care if the professor gave eveyone a red pencil on the first day of class and told everyone they had to bring it back for the Final Exam or they would fail. Is it stupid? Yes. Is the prof a dick? Yes. If you forget your pencil, do you deserve to fail? For fvck's sake, YES!

To think otherwise is to have an unrealistic and unfair sense of entitlement, ie SPOILED!

This is not rocket science, Doj.
 

Doboji

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Wow, you guys are a bunch of very angry people. Doboji is definitely the angriest by a long shot.

OP, you know how the guy plays the game, so you have to play by his rules. Excuses arn't going to help you with this, so just get to class on time.

I love you too Sampson baby... :D:lips:
 

Doboji

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May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Doboji
And more than anything I don't agree with the blow hards here who rag about how he's a spoiled little brat and how the real world is blah blah... because the real world isn't... and I'm sick of hearing people bullsh!t that it is. I'm sure there are extreme cases where you absolutely cannot be even 1 minute late... but these are extreme cases... and not the norm by any stretch of the imagination.

-Max
Who the fvck cares if he's late? It's not even about the tardiness, it's about the fact that ground rules were set at the onset of the class, everyone seemed to meet those rules except the OP, who now feels entitled to special treatment because he failed.

I don't care if the professor gave eveyone a red pencil on the first day of class and told everyone they had to bring it back for the Final Exam or they would fail. Is it stupid? Yes. Is the prof a dick? Yes. If you forget your pencil, do you deserve to fail? For fvck's sake, YES!

To think otherwise is to have an unrealistic and unfair sense of entitlement, ie SPOILED!

This is not rocket science, Doj.

Gunslinger the only thing we disagree about is whether the professor should be beaten and thrown down steps....
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: D1gger
I am astounded how many people in this thread can't see that being late for work/school is unacceptable behaviour.

I run my own construction business, and many times my overall crew cost will be over $1,000 per hour. If my lead operator is late a few minutes, the entire crew stands there waiting for the work to begin, costing the company significant money. This is not acceptable behaviour and I have fired more than one otherwise good employee because they couldn't get their act together and show up on time.

In my office, I expect everyone to arrive on time unless they have let me know ahead of time they have another commitment. If one person starts showing up late, and consistently gets away with it, other employees will start to stretch the rules as well. If someone needs to arrive late or leave early, I am more than willing to give them the time, but don't try to take it for granted without asking first.

Secondly, sure school is not quite the same, but a good professor will be trying to instill the correct habits in his students from day one. If he says be on time, that is the rule, no exceptions. If he starts making an exception for the OP for 2 minutes 9 times in a semester, next semester someone will be asking for 5 minutes 10 times.

Regardless of it being only 2 minutes late, it can be extremely disruptive to everyone else attending the class or meeting. Everything stops while all eyes go to the door to see who is late and watch them find a chair and settle in. It is human nature.

In university, I had a prof who stood by the door until class time, and then closed it. He made it clear that if you weren't in the room when the door closed, you better not open it unless you were there to warn them of a fire. If you were 5 seconds late, you missed the class. Sure, I ranted about it to my friends, but I learned my lesson and I was in my seat before the door closed 99.9% of the time.

edit: for typos.

And I think people like you are blow hard, lying idiots.

I really enjoy how your perspective is the only truth. Must makes things nice and easy for you, huh big guy? :laugh:

It really does.... and I really am right... and you really are wrong.;)


everyone in this thread is pulling the typical ATOT perfectionist nonsense...

blah blah I'm a grown up, and grown ups are never late... blah blah blah... if you're 1 minute late the world could blow up... blah blah blah.... I fire people if they show up 2 minutes late blah blah blah I'm full of ****** but on the intraweb I can be whatever I want. blah blah blah

And you fail to comprehend what we're actually saying. We're not saying we're perfect. We just don't bitch and moan about something that was in our control to fix, and what we probably should've fixed.

Whether you like it or not, 3 minutes can mean the difference. It could be between passing and failing a class or between having your job and losing it. If a boss wants to be a prick and fire you, he'd have plenty of leverage with you being late 3 mintues or more 9 times in a few months. Another situation is where companies have punch clocks. Go over +/- 3 minutes, and you get a point. Get too many points in a certain amount of time, you're gone.

I comprehend exactly what you're saying.... half of it I agree with... the OP has noone to blame but himself for being in this predicament. However I don't agree that him showing up 3 minutes late is the problem here... I think showing up 3 minutes late for a college class is perfectly acceptable. I think the problem here is the OP's inability to realize he was in a situation that would imperil him... and his failure to get out of it.

And more than anything I don't agree with the blow hards here who rag about how he's a spoiled little brat and how the real world is blah blah... because the real world isn't... and I'm sick of hearing people bullsh!t that it is. I'm sure there are extreme cases where you absolutely cannot be even 1 minute late... but these are extreme cases... and not the norm by any stretch of the imagination.

-Max

Your job is not the majority, it is the exception. :)

Well I guess we'll have to see what the rest of ATOT says about that

They have spoken already :p It is why all your posts are defensive in nature ;)

 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Doboji
And more than anything I don't agree with the blow hards here who rag about how he's a spoiled little brat and how the real world is blah blah... because the real world isn't... and I'm sick of hearing people bullsh!t that it is. I'm sure there are extreme cases where you absolutely cannot be even 1 minute late... but these are extreme cases... and not the norm by any stretch of the imagination.

-Max
Who the fvck cares if he's late? It's not even about the tardiness, it's about the fact that ground rules were set at the onset of the class, everyone seemed to meet those rules except the OP, who now feels entitled to special treatment because he failed.

I don't care if the professor gave eveyone a red pencil on the first day of class and told everyone they had to bring it back for the Final Exam or they would fail. Is it stupid? Yes. Is the prof a dick? Yes. If you forget your pencil, do you deserve to fail? For fvck's sake, YES!

To think otherwise is to have an unrealistic and unfair sense of entitlement, ie SPOILED!

This is not rocket science, Doj.

Gunslinger the only thing we disagree about is whether the professor should be beaten and thrown down steps....

Heh, CK that was awsome, ok we found some middle ground Dob :p

Now back to the ME threads :D ;)
 

Atheus

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i take medication that keeps me up late at night and some mornings

Yea I was on that stuff for while. Well... not exactly medicine, so much as drugs... and not so much 'keep me up late', more like keep me in clubs until 5 in the morning, bouncing off the walls. Managed to work as well, but I was young and healthy, and it caught up with me after a while.

 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Doboji
And more than anything I don't agree with the blow hards here who rag about how he's a spoiled little brat and how the real world is blah blah... because the real world isn't... and I'm sick of hearing people bullsh!t that it is. I'm sure there are extreme cases where you absolutely cannot be even 1 minute late... but these are extreme cases... and not the norm by any stretch of the imagination.

-Max
Who the fvck cares if he's late? It's not even about the tardiness, it's about the fact that ground rules were set at the onset of the class, everyone seemed to meet those rules except the OP, who now feels entitled to special treatment because he failed.

I don't care if the professor gave eveyone a red pencil on the first day of class and told everyone they had to bring it back for the Final Exam or they would fail. Is it stupid? Yes. Is the prof a dick? Yes. If you forget your pencil, do you deserve to fail? For fvck's sake, YES!

To think otherwise is to have an unrealistic and unfair sense of entitlement, ie SPOILED!

This is not rocket science, Doj.

Gunslinger the only thing we disagree about is whether the professor should be beaten and thrown down steps....

And I still say that a brick to his head and pushing his *car* down some steps would be the preferred method! :cool:
 

Doboji

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Doboji
And more than anything I don't agree with the blow hards here who rag about how he's a spoiled little brat and how the real world is blah blah... because the real world isn't... and I'm sick of hearing people bullsh!t that it is. I'm sure there are extreme cases where you absolutely cannot be even 1 minute late... but these are extreme cases... and not the norm by any stretch of the imagination.

-Max
Who the fvck cares if he's late? It's not even about the tardiness, it's about the fact that ground rules were set at the onset of the class, everyone seemed to meet those rules except the OP, who now feels entitled to special treatment because he failed.

I don't care if the professor gave eveyone a red pencil on the first day of class and told everyone they had to bring it back for the Final Exam or they would fail. Is it stupid? Yes. Is the prof a dick? Yes. If you forget your pencil, do you deserve to fail? For fvck's sake, YES!

To think otherwise is to have an unrealistic and unfair sense of entitlement, ie SPOILED!

This is not rocket science, Doj.

Gunslinger the only thing we disagree about is whether the professor should be beaten and thrown down steps....

And I still say that a brick to his head and pushing his *car* down some steps would be the preferred method! :cool:

I'm willing to accept that so long as I can also:

then go to their house and ejaculate on his widow's face while making her sing his collegeate fight song as he beats his bare chest with one hand and eats a turkey drumstick with the other

-Max
 

KoolAidKid

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I have taught a fair number of undergrad and grad classes and dealt with innumerable students. Let me just say that I am completely on the side of the prof in this case. As a prof you get sick of the bullsh!t excuses.

There comes a point in your educational career where you need to stop with the excuses and take responsibility for yourself. Make your choices and accept your consequences. It's not like this attendance policy was a big surprise.
 

habib89

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ok, so since you're on medication, do you think you can go to the chair or dean and maybe take a special test for the class to show that you were obviously there and learned the material? i mean it's a medical condition, so you're a sepcial circumstance... and that professor is an ass, and i'm sure he has hella complaints against him..
 

bamacre

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Damn. I'd tell the prof to go fvck himself. Then tell the dean of students that you do not wish to attend a Univ where the prof are allowed to act in such an immoral manner. Find a new school.

Too often Universities treat their students like high schoolers, not as a paying customer.
 

montanafan

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Here's the part I don't understand.

You knew that the professor had this policy. You knew that if you were absent X number of times you would fail the class per the attendance policy. You knew that when he took the roll and you weren't there to answer you were being marked absent. So why did you wait until you'd been marked absent enough times to fail the class to say something to the professor about it? Why didn't you speak to the professor about it after class the first time you were late for roll call? Maybe he still wouldn't have made an exception in your case, but it sounds more like you were just assuming that he wouldn't hold you to the same rule as everyone else the whole time.