fvcking awesome :(

[thomsbrain]

you know, folks, if you work in a job where you can't be trusted to do your work without conforming to a strict timetable, that's not "responsibility."

that's babysitting. you are children who have to be babysat. so don't get on a soapbox about the real world. the only place where 2 minutes makes a difference is McDonald's.

at my job, all employees are responsible (note that word) for setting their own schedules, meeting their 40 hours a week, and producing a certain minimum amount of billable time for the company. we fill out our own timesheets. we fill out our own mileage reimbursement. we may go days without coming in the office, because there's these things called cell phones, pagers, and VPN's. we have team meetings once a week, and people are always late, and nobody cares, because we just start without them and don't worry about it. if i want to come in at 8:01 AM, i can. if i want to come in at 2:34 PM, i can do that. if no one sees me for days, a supervisor might ask me what i've been up to, and that's about the extent of it. this is because i have been given tremendous responsiblity, and i am a responsible person. my company trusts me and my co-workers to get their work done. guess what? we get it done. the irony is our time is accountable to huge lists of government laws and regulations, and we can still operate this way. chances are the only people you folk are accountable to are HR, and they aren't even in the same building as you. so relax.

even in stricter situations, everyone knows that traffic is unpredictable, and no one expects you to always arrive 30 minutes early to prevent yourself from being late the 1 time in 50 that there is an accident. once again, everyone has cell phones. you can call and say you'll be held up and start the meeting without you. no panties get bunched.

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Doboji

Typical answer I was expecting, can't really put anything substanstial together besides "wahhhh you guys are all uptight and wrong wahhhh"

One day I hope you get fired for your ******, maybe your anger management issues and than see what the real world is like, when you do come post it on ATOT so I can laugh at least k?

Oh please you don't know me from adam... so stop acting like you do. Are you holier than thou types make me sick to my stomach. At the end of the day we all ****** out of the same hole...

Of course we do, and we all bleed the same color, but I think of myself as a better person than a murdere/rapist/con artist ect. Doesn't matter if I ****** the same color as you every day, the actions are what make people different.

Hopefully you understand that :roll:

I do understand that... but like I said the Professor in this situation is just a straight up douchebag... it is beyond me how everyone in this thread ignores that... and instead focuses on how childish the OP is, and how in the big mean real world, if you show up for work 3 minutes late you lose your job, and end up on the streets buying crack with BJs.

It's just ridiculous... reality is.. the OP should have dropped the class earlier... he should not have made up some excuse... and the Professor is an analretentive ass.

Further reality is, were I in the same situation... in fact I have been... I would have convinced the professor to let me do SOMETHING to get me through that class. I would not physically harm him or his car. But I would really really want to.

Clear enough?

-Max

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: pclstyle

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: GarlicBreath
Your meds, right. Can't be your fault. Nobody's personally responsible for anything anymore.

How about this: If your class starts at 7:20, just tell yourself it starts at 7:00. Then if you're 2 minutes late, you'll really be 18 minutes early.

If my employees were habitually late for work or meetings, I'd fire them.

Take it as a life lesson and do better next time. The world's tough, kiddo. You gotta be tougher.

Oh you are so full of horse donkey... in the real world you wouldn't fire anyone who shows up within 3 minutes of the meeting time... you know that... so stop being such a poser.

Uh, consistently 3 minutes late to nearly every meeting, over the course of 5 months (semester equivalent)? And then if they had the nerve to come whining to me about being unfair after I'd already made the call to HR, when they hadn't bother with the respect of an excuse over the course of the past half year? I'd wouldn't even give them the courtesy of an audience, I'd have them escorted out. To bad professors are actually paid, thus expected to put up with a moderate level of bullsh!t.

funniest thing about this whole post to me was, the kid sure got his sh!t in gear once everything hit the fan- running back and forth between the professor, dean, and shrink?

Meds aren't stopping you now, are they?


EDIT: oh wait, gotta put the 'stupid attendance thing' up there too. yeah, we all hate that freaking attendance thing. you pay tuition, AND you're expected to go to class? what the hell is that? welcome to the real world, child.

I'm guessing the OP's grades weren't on the positive side of the bell curve as well; professors generally have a distaste for excuse-ridden slackers that can't pull their weight.

IT'S NOT CONSISTANT!!!!

jeez... i feel like i'm constantly repeating myself.

the trimester is 4 months long. i was late to class 9 times, but stayed during the entire class (except for when i had to go to the bathroom or get a drink of water). all the other times, i was there on time.

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: dullard
Your professor is being a baby about this. Clearly, he is full of himself and it is his way or the highway. You have little you can do about it. Your only options are to retake the class or to make a big enough stink that someone will bend the rules for you. I don't think you'll have much success with bending the rules, and if you do, you'll make a lot of enemies.

That said, does your medicine make it IMPOSSIBLE to wake up 5 minutes earlier? I've never heard of something like that. More likely, it is your fault for being late and you are using your condition as an excuse.

it's not impossible to wake up 5 minutes earlier, but it is virtually impossible to sleep earlier, thereby getting more than 4 or 5 hrs of sleep. if you slept for 4 or 5 hours every day, you'd have a hard time waking up in the morning and functioning and awake enough to drive safely to school in traffic.

am i making excuses? absolutely. and it's a valid excuse to have. in order to succeed in my education, i need to have my medication. the downside to that is that it deprives me of sleep. you can be all indignant about how it's not impossible to wake up 5 minutes earlier, but you're not the one who can't fall asleep until 2 or 3 in the morning having to wake up at 6:30 just to get to class at 7:20 everyday.

So you're telling us 5 minutes of sleep is going to wind up making the difference between driving safely to school and not?

You're still beating around the issue here. HOW is losing 5 minutes of sleep that important that you simply could not do it?

without getting too technical, in order to be as attentive and awake as possible, you need to gradually wake up. you can't wake up in mid-rem sleep and be alert.

now, i know you're gonna say, "well, why not set your alarm clock earlier so you can gradually wake up earlier," and my answer to that is because i wouldn't get much meaningful sleep if i did that any earlier than i already do it.

sleep deprivation isn't exactly an easy thing to tackle... you can't just say "well, just wake up and quit being a baby about it... blahdy blah blah"... it's much more complex.

You're full of crap here... the medicine doesnt make you 3 minutes late for class....

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Holy shiit. There's like 4-5 people in this thread that actually GET IT.

OK, for those of you with the common sense of a Box Of Rocks:

1. The world owes you NOTHING. Your 4/5/6/10 years of school entitles you to grab your BALLS and nothing else, OK?

2. 8:00AM means 8:00AM (in that same time zone, idiot) NOT "Whenever the hell I wake up" or "When my meds and my Zodiac Advisor" permit me to release my Life Force and interact with society.

3. Your meds, your cat, your wife, your penchant for closing the strip club with Tequilla in one hand and a Scroll Of Hope For Humanity in the other are NOT excuses for getting up LATE. That's what it is, dumbell; YOU ARE GETTING UP LATE. No meds. No alcohol. No GF. YOU got up LATE. Notice those two BOLDED words? YOU and LATE?

Oh you are so full of ******

Why?? Is what I said not the factual truth? I know that it is, from personal experience. From 20+ years in the working world. From getting FIRED. From having TO FIRE people. I live in the real world.

The world you live in: Do they have oxygen there?

SHENS... straight up SHENS you have never been fired from a job for being 3 minutes late on 9 occaisions in 3 months...

AND thus your entire post is bull...

Stop acting like you're some wise old man looking down on a lazy child...

I live in the same world as you, I just look at mine realistically and don't pretend to be better than everyone else.

I have fired someone for being late by 6 minutes late 8 times in 3 months.

What do you do, and what did he do? and was he a good employee otherwise?

He was a good employee, so is his replacement who has never had an attendance issue. I really don't care. I have actually fired multiple people for this, at this job and others. I would rather have someone who is punctual who I can depend on, who I know will be there to do the job, than someone who can do the job, but whether he shows up or not is a roll of the dice. This is even more important when you are on part of a team, and each members job is dependant on the others. I want someone who I know for sure will be there, than someone who might/might not depending on how he feels.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: dullard
Your professor is being a baby about this. Clearly, he is full of himself and it is his way or the highway. You have little you can do about it. Your only options are to retake the class or to make a big enough stink that someone will bend the rules for you. I don't think you'll have much success with bending the rules, and if you do, you'll make a lot of enemies.

That said, does your medicine make it IMPOSSIBLE to wake up 5 minutes earlier? I've never heard of something like that. More likely, it is your fault for being late and you are using your condition as an excuse.

it's not impossible to wake up 5 minutes earlier, but it is virtually impossible to sleep earlier, thereby getting more than 4 or 5 hrs of sleep. if you slept for 4 or 5 hours every day, you'd have a hard time waking up in the morning and functioning and awake enough to drive safely to school in traffic.

am i making excuses? absolutely. and it's a valid excuse to have. in order to succeed in my education, i need to have my medication. the downside to that is that it deprives me of sleep. you can be all indignant about how it's not impossible to wake up 5 minutes earlier, but you're not the one who can't fall asleep until 2 or 3 in the morning having to wake up at 6:30 just to get to class at 7:20 everyday.

So you're telling us 5 minutes of sleep is going to wind up making the difference between driving safely to school and not?

You're still beating around the issue here. HOW is losing 5 minutes of sleep that important that you simply could not do it?

without getting too technical, in order to be as attentive and awake as possible, you need to gradually wake up. you can't wake up in mid-rem sleep and be alert.

now, i know you're gonna say, "well, why not set your alarm clock earlier so you can gradually wake up earlier," and my answer to that is because i wouldn't get much meaningful sleep if i did that any earlier than i already do it.

sleep deprivation isn't exactly an easy thing to tackle... you can't just say "well, just wake up and quit being a baby about it... blahdy blah blah"... it's much more complex.

All I still see are more excuses trying to be backed up by technical jargon.

Basically, I'm saying your full of ****** and trying to come up with crap excuses in order to justify not waking up 5 minutes earlier.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: notfred
Why don't you jsut do *everything* a little earlier every day? If you take your medication at6:00PM and it keeps you up till 2:00AM, why don't you take it at 5:30? jsut shift your entire schedule forward by a bit. I'm sure your medication doesn't have a clock in it that keeps it working until 2:00AM. If it work for 8 hours, then make that 8 hours start sooner.

i tried. didn't help.

i even have my alarm clock set 40 minutes fast to try to psychologically tricking myself into going to bed earlier (hoping that mind will dominate over matter - matter being the medication). the clock on my wall is set 40 minutes fast.

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Holy shiit. There's like 4-5 people in this thread that actually GET IT.

OK, for those of you with the common sense of a Box Of Rocks:

1. The world owes you NOTHING. Your 4/5/6/10 years of school entitles you to grab your BALLS and nothing else, OK?

2. 8:00AM means 8:00AM (in that same time zone, idiot) NOT "Whenever the hell I wake up" or "When my meds and my Zodiac Advisor" permit me to release my Life Force and interact with society.

3. Your meds, your cat, your wife, your penchant for closing the strip club with Tequilla in one hand and a Scroll Of Hope For Humanity in the other are NOT excuses for getting up LATE. That's what it is, dumbell; YOU ARE GETTING UP LATE. No meds. No alcohol. No GF. YOU got up LATE. Notice those two BOLDED words? YOU and LATE?

Oh you are so full of ******

Why?? Is what I said not the factual truth? I know that it is, from personal experience. From 20+ years in the working world. From getting FIRED. From having TO FIRE people. I live in the real world.

The world you live in: Do they have oxygen there?

SHENS... straight up SHENS you have never been fired from a job for being 3 minutes late on 9 occaisions in 3 months...

AND thus your entire post is bull...

Stop acting like you're some wise old man looking down on a lazy child...

I live in the same world as you, I just look at mine realistically and don't pretend to be better than everyone else.

I have fired someone for being late by 6 minutes late 8 times in 3 months.

What do you do, and what did he do? and was he a good employee otherwise?

He was a good employee, so is his replacement who has never had an attendance issue. I really don't care. I have actually fired multiple people for this, at this job and others. I would rather have someone who is punctual who I can depend on, who I know will be there to do the job, than someone who can do the job, but whether he shows up or not is a roll of the dice. This is even more important when you are on part of a team, and each members job is dependant on the others. I want someone who I know for sure will be there, than someone who might/might not depending on how he feels.

Well I think you're an asshole boss... and I wouldnt work for you.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: GarlicBreath
Your meds, right. Can't be your fault. Nobody's personally responsible for anything anymore.

How about this: If your class starts at 7:20, just tell yourself it starts at 7:00. Then if you're 2 minutes late, you'll really be 18 minutes early.

If my employees were habitually late for work or meetings, I'd fire them.

Take it as a life lesson and do better next time. The world's tough, kiddo. You gotta be tougher.

again, try doing that when you've had around 4 hrs of sleep every night.

It's a pity party now, isn't it?

Anybody who has majored in science or engineering knows exactly what it's like to get 4 hours of sleep every night for months.

months?

try years.

during all 10 trimesters of my schooling here, classes start at 7:20 in the morning. it wasn't a big deal in the past because some of the professors understood the problem and some professors weren't attendance nazis.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Holy shiit. There's like 4-5 people in this thread that actually GET IT.

OK, for those of you with the common sense of a Box Of Rocks:

1. The world owes you NOTHING. Your 4/5/6/10 years of school entitles you to grab your BALLS and nothing else, OK?

2. 8:00AM means 8:00AM (in that same time zone, idiot) NOT "Whenever the hell I wake up" or "When my meds and my Zodiac Advisor" permit me to release my Life Force and interact with society.

3. Your meds, your cat, your wife, your penchant for closing the strip club with Tequilla in one hand and a Scroll Of Hope For Humanity in the other are NOT excuses for getting up LATE. That's what it is, dumbell; YOU ARE GETTING UP LATE. No meds. No alcohol. No GF. YOU got up LATE. Notice those two BOLDED words? YOU and LATE?

Oh you are so full of ******

Why?? Is what I said not the factual truth? I know that it is, from personal experience. From 20+ years in the working world. From getting FIRED. From having TO FIRE people. I live in the real world.

The world you live in: Do they have oxygen there?

SHENS... straight up SHENS you have never been fired from a job for being 3 minutes late on 9 occaisions in 3 months...

AND thus your entire post is bull...

Stop acting like you're some wise old man looking down on a lazy child...

I live in the same world as you, I just look at mine realistically and don't pretend to be better than everyone else.

I have fired someone for being late by 6 minutes late 8 times in 3 months.

What do you do, and what did he do? and was he a good employee otherwise?

He was a good employee, so is his replacement who has never had an attendance issue. I really don't care. I have actually fired multiple people for this, at this job and others. I would rather have someone who is punctual who I can depend on, who I know will be there to do the job, than someone who can do the job, but whether he shows up or not is a roll of the dice. This is even more important when you are on part of a team, and each members job is dependant on the others. I want someone who I know for sure will be there, than someone who might/might not depending on how he feels.

Well I think your an asshole boss... and I wouldnt work for you.

You wouldn't work for him because your ass would be fired.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: GarlicBreath
Your meds, right. Can't be your fault. Nobody's personally responsible for anything anymore.

How about this: If your class starts at 7:20, just tell yourself it starts at 7:00. Then if you're 2 minutes late, you'll really be 18 minutes early.

If my employees were habitually late for work or meetings, I'd fire them.

Take it as a life lesson and do better next time. The world's tough, kiddo. You gotta be tougher.

again, try doing that when you've had around 4 hrs of sleep every night.

It's a pity party now, isn't it?

Anybody who has majored in science or engineering knows exactly what it's like to get 4 hours of sleep every night for months.

months?

try years.

during all 10 trimesters of my schooling here, classes start at 7:20 in the morning. it wasn't a big deal in the past because some of the professors understood the problem and some professors weren't attendance nazis.

So I'm assuming you never rest on the weekends, and you never ever have vacations/breaks, right?

Like I said, months. Hell, if you want to play that game, it'd be years for them too.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Doboji

Typical answer I was expecting, can't really put anything substanstial together besides "wahhhh you guys are all uptight and wrong wahhhh"

One day I hope you get fired for your ******, maybe your anger management issues and than see what the real world is like, when you do come post it on ATOT so I can laugh at least k?

Oh please you don't know me from adam... so stop acting like you do. Are you holier than thou types make me sick to my stomach. At the end of the day we all ****** out of the same hole...

Of course we do, and we all bleed the same color, but I think of myself as a better person than a murdere/rapist/con artist ect. Doesn't matter if I ****** the same color as you every day, the actions are what make people different.

Hopefully you understand that :roll:

I do understand that... but like I said the Professor in this situation is just a straight up douchebag... it is beyond me how everyone in this thread ignores that... and instead focuses on how childish the OP is, and how in the big mean real world, if you show up for work 3 minutes late you lose your job, and end up on the streets buying crack with BJs.

It's just ridiculous... reality is.. the OP should have dropped the class earlier... he should not have made up some excuse... and the Professor is an analretentive ass.

Further reality is, were I in the same situation... in fact I have been... I would have convinced the professor to let me do SOMETHING to get me through that class. I would not physically harm him or his car. But I would really really want to.

Clear enough?

-Max

On I agree the Prof is an asshole don't get me wrong. I think peoples mindset that lateness is perfectly find is retarded though

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Holy shiit. There's like 4-5 people in this thread that actually GET IT.

OK, for those of you with the common sense of a Box Of Rocks:

1. The world owes you NOTHING. Your 4/5/6/10 years of school entitles you to grab your BALLS and nothing else, OK?

2. 8:00AM means 8:00AM (in that same time zone, idiot) NOT "Whenever the hell I wake up" or "When my meds and my Zodiac Advisor" permit me to release my Life Force and interact with society.

3. Your meds, your cat, your wife, your penchant for closing the strip club with Tequilla in one hand and a Scroll Of Hope For Humanity in the other are NOT excuses for getting up LATE. That's what it is, dumbell; YOU ARE GETTING UP LATE. No meds. No alcohol. No GF. YOU got up LATE. Notice those two BOLDED words? YOU and LATE?

Oh you are so full of ******

Why?? Is what I said not the factual truth? I know that it is, from personal experience. From 20+ years in the working world. From getting FIRED. From having TO FIRE people. I live in the real world.

The world you live in: Do they have oxygen there?

SHENS... straight up SHENS you have never been fired from a job for being 3 minutes late on 9 occaisions in 3 months...

AND thus your entire post is bull...

Stop acting like you're some wise old man looking down on a lazy child...

I live in the same world as you, I just look at mine realistically and don't pretend to be better than everyone else.

I have fired someone for being late by 6 minutes late 8 times in 3 months.

What do you do, and what did he do? and was he a good employee otherwise?

He was a good employee, so is his replacement who has never had an attendance issue. I really don't care. I have actually fired multiple people for this, at this job and others. I would rather have someone who is punctual who I can depend on, who I know will be there to do the job, than someone who can do the job, but whether he shows up or not is a roll of the dice. This is even more important when you are on part of a team, and each members job is dependant on the others. I want someone who I know for sure will be there, than someone who might/might not depending on how he feels.

Well I think your an asshole boss... and I wouldnt work for you.

You wouldn't work for him because your ass would be fired.

Hard to say... I think I'd probably not take the job in the first place... especially if I knew he was anal enough to fire an otherwise good employee for being 6 minutes late on 8 occasions.

I like my job now... which I got because my Boss at my previous job wanted to take his best employees with him. I hardly ever show up for work on time...

-Max

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Holy shiit. There's like 4-5 people in this thread that actually GET IT.

OK, for those of you with the common sense of a Box Of Rocks:

1. The world owes you NOTHING. Your 4/5/6/10 years of school entitles you to grab your BALLS and nothing else, OK?

2. 8:00AM means 8:00AM (in that same time zone, idiot) NOT "Whenever the hell I wake up" or "When my meds and my Zodiac Advisor" permit me to release my Life Force and interact with society.

3. Your meds, your cat, your wife, your penchant for closing the strip club with Tequilla in one hand and a Scroll Of Hope For Humanity in the other are NOT excuses for getting up LATE. That's what it is, dumbell; YOU ARE GETTING UP LATE. No meds. No alcohol. No GF. YOU got up LATE. Notice those two BOLDED words? YOU and LATE?

Oh you are so full of ******

Why?? Is what I said not the factual truth? I know that it is, from personal experience. From 20+ years in the working world. From getting FIRED. From having TO FIRE people. I live in the real world.

The world you live in: Do they have oxygen there?

SHENS... straight up SHENS you have never been fired from a job for being 3 minutes late on 9 occaisions in 3 months...

AND thus your entire post is bull...

Stop acting like you're some wise old man looking down on a lazy child...

I live in the same world as you, I just look at mine realistically and don't pretend to be better than everyone else.

I have fired someone for being late by 6 minutes late 8 times in 3 months.

What do you do, and what did he do? and was he a good employee otherwise?

He was a good employee, so is his replacement who has never had an attendance issue. I really don't care. I have actually fired multiple people for this, at this job and others. I would rather have someone who is punctual who I can depend on, who I know will be there to do the job, than someone who can do the job, but whether he shows up or not is a roll of the dice. This is even more important when you are on part of a team, and each members job is dependant on the others. I want someone who I know for sure will be there, than someone who might/might not depending on how he feels.

Well I think you're an asshole boss... and I wouldnt work for you.

That's fine, I think your an asshole employee and wouldn't want you too

Maybe we can agree to dislike each's others opinion on this than

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Doboji

Typical answer I was expecting, can't really put anything substanstial together besides "wahhhh you guys are all uptight and wrong wahhhh"

One day I hope you get fired for your ******, maybe your anger management issues and than see what the real world is like, when you do come post it on ATOT so I can laugh at least k?

Oh please you don't know me from adam... so stop acting like you do. Are you holier than thou types make me sick to my stomach. At the end of the day we all ****** out of the same hole...

Of course we do, and we all bleed the same color, but I think of myself as a better person than a murdere/rapist/con artist ect. Doesn't matter if I ****** the same color as you every day, the actions are what make people different.

Hopefully you understand that :roll:

I do understand that... but like I said the Professor in this situation is just a straight up douchebag... it is beyond me how everyone in this thread ignores that... and instead focuses on how childish the OP is, and how in the big mean real world, if you show up for work 3 minutes late you lose your job, and end up on the streets buying crack with BJs.

It's just ridiculous... reality is.. the OP should have dropped the class earlier... he should not have made up some excuse... and the Professor is an analretentive ass.

Further reality is, were I in the same situation... in fact I have been... I would have convinced the professor to let me do SOMETHING to get me through that class. I would not physically harm him or his car. But I would really really want to.

Clear enough?

-Max

On I agree the Prof is an asshole don't get me wrong. I think peoples mindset that lateness is perfectly find is retarded though

I think it's all about being reasonable... if you're expected to do something at a particular time, and are late... thats pretty bad... but just showing up... with no tangible reason to HAVE to be there on time. Sorry I see no reason for it to matter. As long as you get your work done on or before it's duetime... it shouldn't matter what time you put your ass in the work chair.

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: notfred

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Why is it critical to his learning experience that he needs to be there 2 minutes earlier? It's not.

It is because he fails if he doesn't do it. Maybe his professor is an asshole, but it doesn't matter, if he wants a degree, then he has to pass the class. If he wants to pass the class, he needs to be there on time. Hence, it's critical that he gets there on time.

That has nothing to do with the actual learning which is what I was mentioning... unless you consider what he learned to be nothing since he isn't actually getting the credit?

 

[Doboji]

That's fine, I think your an asshole employee and wouldn't want you too

Maybe we can agree to dislike each's others opinion on this than

It's so much easier agreeing with you in P&N

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: eits
my professor has this stupid attendance roll-call thing where if you're a minute late to class, he just marks you absent. you can't fight it, either.

i take medication that keeps me up late at night and some mornings, it's a struggle to get into class exactly at 7:20.... but i'm there for the entire class (except for maybe 2 minutes or so after he's done calling roll).

well, all of those "absences" piled up and now i failed the class due to attendance. now, i've got to pay to take the class all over again even though i was in the class.

i spoke with the professor about my situation. he told me to talk to the dean of student admissions about it. the dean of admissions told me it wasn't up to him and that it was up to the professor. he'd ok whatever decision the professor made. so, i went back to the professor and he said he's happy with his policy and feels no need to change his decision.

i asked if i got a note from my psychiatrist explaining the side effects of my drug and why i'm taking the dosage that i am after years of trial and error. he said it isn't up to him to interpret side effects of medication.

i kinda feel like i'm going to throw up right now.


EDIT: more information for those who don't know....

1, my medicine isn't breaking me by 2-3 minutes.... my medicine (a stimulant) keeps me up at night, so i only get around 4 hours of sleep. i try taking stuff to help me sleep earlier and it doesn't work. in fact, because i metabolize medicine slowly, taking the sleep aids only make me later because they kick in late and keep me asleep.

2, i can't switch professors or take another time because the schedule is set. everyone in my trimester gets the same schedule with the same professors at the same times. you can't pick and choose dates, times, or professors. the school gives you a schedule and you follow it.

Sounds like you should be talking to the ADA coordinator at your school.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Doboji

That's fine, I think your an asshole employee and wouldn't want you too

Maybe we can agree to dislike each's others opinion on this than

It's so much easier agreeing with you in P&N

 

[JS80]

He seems like a typical evil liberal

 

[Reckoner]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Doboji

That's fine, I think your an asshole employee and wouldn't want you too

Maybe we can agree to dislike each's others opinion on this than

It's so much easier agreeing with you in P&N

Did you at least give some sort of reprimand before canning them on the whole 6 minutes of tardiness?

 

[RedArmy]

I want to know what this 'real' world is you people speak of. I don't want to be in the fake one. I'm scared now

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: RedArmy
I want to know what this 'real' world is you people speak of. I don't want to be in the fake one. I'm scared now

In order to see the world as it truly is you must place a pole minimum of 5" in diameter into your lower intestines.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Doboji

That's fine, I think your an asshole employee and wouldn't want you too

Maybe we can agree to dislike each's others opinion on this than

It's so much easier agreeing with you in P&N

Did you at least give some sort of reprimand before canning them on the whole 6 minutes of tardiness?

Yes, a continous escalation of reprimands. I do it on a 4 point basis in a 6 month period, with points. Each point rolls off 6 months after it was issues. After 4 points I term them.

They get 4 points for attendance, 4 points for Lates, seperate issues. As you can see I let this employee combine the two even though I havn't done that for anyone.

So yeah, he was warned


Again the only reason it is so strict is perhaps the environment of the job.

Employee A does this work
Employee B takes the work of Employee A and does analys/more work
Employee A takes the work back and adjusts it
Employee C takes the work from A and files it/presents it

Varrying things such as this, but involving more people. As you can see, if Employee A, B, or C is not dependable (On time daily), the entire production of the team drops.

 

[RedArmy]

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: RedArmy
I want to know what this 'real' world is you people speak of. I don't want to be in the fake one. I'm scared now

In order to see the world as it truly is you must place a pole minimum of 5" in diameter into your lower intestines.

Well it looks like I need to make a trip to the Home Depot then. I only have ones 4" and smaller.