As I said, be thankfull for a job where no one cares I guess. In the real/regular world, tardiness is a sign of laziness. 5 minutes or 5 hours. Sure, if once in a while than fine, no problem. Train kept you from getting here, traffic, power went out and alarm clock reset ect. The problem comes when it is everyday, when it is daily, that is a sign of laziness, lack of caring about what you do (class or work) and just general apathy towards life. I honestly don't care what your experience is, there are always exceptions to the rule. As I said though, someone somewhere can replace you at your job, and do it without being late on a daily basis. If you are only a few minutes late everyday, than leave a few minutes earlier, you change your ways to the world, the world doesn't change its ways to you. If you are a few hours late everyday, it is time to find something else to do, or change your schedule, either way there is no excuse for perssistant tardiness.
As I said, be thankfull for a job where no one cares I guess. In the real/regular world, tardiness is a sign of laziness. 5 minutes or 5 hours. Sure, if once in a while than fine, no problem. Train kept you from getting here, traffic, power went out and alarm clock reset ect. The problem comes when it is everyday, when it is daily, that is a sign of laziness, lack of caring about what you do (class or work) and just general apathy towards life. I honestly don't care what your experience is, there are always exceptions to the rule. As I said though, someone somewhere can replace you at your job, and do it without being late on a daily basis. If you are only a few minutes late everyday, than leave a few minutes earlier, you change your ways to the world, the world doesn't change its ways to you. If you are a few hours late everyday, it is time to find something else to do, or change your schedule, either way there is no excuse for perssistant tardiness.
What's a documented issue? That you can't possibly set your alarm clock 5 minutes earlier every day?
gsellis
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If he goes to Wash U, I will laugh. My ancient Greek history prof had the same policy 25 years ago. Hated it, but that was part of the class requirements and in the syllibus. No fault but your own if you don't comply. That is what the first 2 weeks give you for changing classes.
i've got a better idea... take a course in toxicology or pharmacology before you talk nonsense like that.
cKGunslinger
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The thing is, and what you will perpetually fail to see, is that exact same attitude is probably 99% responsible for you ending up in the sitution in which you would have that reaction.
Oh bullcrap.... what reasonable job would fire you for showing up for work 3-5 minutes 9 times over the course of 3-4 months?
Please... stop with the high horse holier than thou crap... I mean really.
EDIT: Nested quotes fixed
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That's pretty lame. Ask your professor who or what benefits from failing you when you've demonstrated that you've learned everything you're expected to learn in the class. It's utterly illogical. Rules are rules, but that's just petty.
I had a hard-ass prof like that in college, she would have failed me if I went to my grandfather's funeral. I didn't go for other reasons, but she was a pathetic human being nonetheless. (reason was that it was a 4 hour class so we were allowed 4 skips - but unlike every other professor she counted serious illness or death in the family as a skip, not an excused absence. I used all my skips for a hospital stay and surgery. I was doing poorly in the class already because she made me take an exam while I was doped up on pain killers from the surgery, so skipping several classes to go to my grandfather's funeral would have all but guaranteed I'd fail)
I had a hard-ass prof like that in college, she would have failed me if I went to my grandfather's funeral. I didn't go for other reasons, but she was a pathetic human being nonetheless. (reason was that it was a 4 hour class so we were allowed 4 skips - but unlike every other professor she counted serious illness or death in the family as a skip, not an excused absence. I used all my skips for a hospital stay and surgery. I was doing poorly in the class already because she made me take an exam while I was doped up on pain killers from the surgery, so skipping several classes to go to my grandfather's funeral would have all but guaranteed I'd fail)
i can't take the class later... it's a set schedule. it's not a pick and choose thing.
the medicine isn't breaking me by 2 minutes.... it's breaking me by about 2 or 3 hours. i only get around 4 hours of sleep a night because the medicine (concerta) keeps me awake and i can't get to sleep, no matter how hard i try, no matter if i take melatonin, no matter if i take benadryl...
Typical answer I was expecting, can't really put anything substanstial together besides "wahhhh you guys are all uptight and wrong wahhhh"
One day I hope you get fired for your ******, maybe your anger management issues and than see what the real world is like, when you do come post it on ATOT so I can laugh at least k?
SHENS... straight up SHENS you have never been fired from a job for being 3 minutes late on 9 occaisions in 3 months...
AND thus your entire post is bull...
Stop acting like you're some wise old man looking down on a lazy child...
I live in the same world as you, I just look at mine realistically and don't pretend to be better than everyone else.
Typical answer I was expecting, can't really put anything substanstial together besides "wahhhh you guys are all uptight and wrong wahhhh"
One day I hope you get fired for your ******, maybe your anger management issues and than see what the real world is like, when you do come post it on ATOT so I can laugh at least k?
Oh please you don't know me from adam... so stop acting like you do. Are you holier than thou types make me sick to my stomach. At the end of the day we all ****** out of the same hole...
MichaelD
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I never said I was fired for being 3 minutes late. What I was trying to get across (subtlety is lost in these here Cromagnon type forums) is that I've been around long enough to have been on both sides of this coin. Ergo, the OP is full of poop. Like you. Get up earlier. The bus is ON TIME. The bus driver DOESN'T have it in for you by coming "two minutes early" every day. Etc. (The bus driver comment was an EXAMPLE, OK?_)
Originally posted by: Doboji
Typical answer I was expecting, can't really put anything substanstial together besides "wahhhh you guys are all uptight and wrong wahhhh"
One day I hope you get fired for your ******, maybe your anger management issues and than see what the real world is like, when you do come post it on ATOT so I can laugh at least k?
Oh please you don't know me from adam... so stop acting like you do. Are you holier than thou types make me sick to my stomach. At the end of the day we all ****** out of the same hole...
Of course we do, and we all bleed the same color, but I think of myself as a better person than a murdere/rapist/con artist ect. Doesn't matter if I ****** the same color as you every day, the actions are what make people different.
Hopefully you understand that :roll:
DrPizza
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Wow, I kinda feel bad for you... you'd think the prof would realize that you were still there for every class, except 2-3 minutes late more times than he allowed. I'd sum this up for you this way: You just learned a VERY valuable lesson, just as important as x-ray imaging: Be there on time; plan on being early so that if sh!t happens, (and it does), you'll still be there on time.
Here's mine: Check grades Monday Morning - F?!! wtf?! My final exam wasn't even graded (online class). I figured there was a mistake, contacted prof - "Nope, the deadline for finals was Saturday night." 13 classes I've taken online, and *EVERY* class runs M-Sun, with all major assignments always due on Sunday. His syllabus was riddled with mistakes (except the Sat thing) that he constantly corrected. The week's module for available dates to take the exam included Sunday. But, he said "nope, syllabus says Saturday and I can't make exceptions." That resulted in an automatic F for a class I had a 100 average in (until that point.)
Here's mine: Check grades Monday Morning - F?!! wtf?! My final exam wasn't even graded (online class). I figured there was a mistake, contacted prof - "Nope, the deadline for finals was Saturday night." 13 classes I've taken online, and *EVERY* class runs M-Sun, with all major assignments always due on Sunday. His syllabus was riddled with mistakes (except the Sat thing) that he constantly corrected. The week's module for available dates to take the exam included Sunday. But, he said "nope, syllabus says Saturday and I can't make exceptions." That resulted in an automatic F for a class I had a 100 average in (until that point.)
Eits, do you do anything physical everyday like running or biking? That sure as hell tires me out. Posting 12 times a day at AT doesn't count.
without getting too technical, in order to be as attentive and awake as possible, you need to gradually wake up. you can't wake up in mid-rem sleep and be alert.
now, i know you're gonna say, "well, why not set your alarm clock earlier so you can gradually wake up earlier," and my answer to that is because i wouldn't get much meaningful sleep if i did that any earlier than i already do it.
sleep deprivation isn't exactly an easy thing to tackle... you can't just say "well, just wake up and quit being a baby about it... blahdy blah blah"... it's much more complex.
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