fvcking awesome :(

[eits]

Originally posted by: GarlicBreath
Your meds, right. Can't be your fault. Nobody's personally responsible for anything anymore.

How about this: If your class starts at 7:20, just tell yourself it starts at 7:00. Then if you're 2 minutes late, you'll really be 18 minutes early.

If my employees were habitually late for work or meetings, I'd fire them.

Take it as a life lesson and do better next time. The world's tough, kiddo. You gotta be tougher.

again, try doing that when you've had around 4 hrs of sleep every night.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: GarlicBreath
Your meds, right. Can't be your fault. Nobody's personally responsible for anything anymore.

How about this: If your class starts at 7:20, just tell yourself it starts at 7:00. Then if you're 2 minutes late, you'll really be 18 minutes early.

If my employees were habitually late for work or meetings, I'd fire them.

Take it as a life lesson and do better next time. The world's tough, kiddo. You gotta be tougher.

again, try doing that when you've had around 4 hrs of sleep every night.

It's a pity party now, isn't it?

Anybody who has majored in science or engineering knows exactly what it's like to get 4 hours of sleep every night for months.

 

[Praxis1452]

I should be able to be late everyday 2 minutes. Almost no job or learning enviroment requires the beginning 2 minutes to be effective in pretty much any manner. The beginning two minutes are usually wasted anyway with people just readying themselves. That's a bunch of bullshit.

And to everyone else who's like just wake up earlier.... You people need to stop letting the asses in the world bend you and make you conform the them. Why is it critical to his learning experience that he needs to be there 2 minutes earlier? It's not. The professor is being an ass. The medication is a reasonable excuse. Now I doubt he was late everyday. Just over the number of days that the prof had said.

the Prof's an anal ass. Yes he is quite anal. Even the first 5 minutes should be acceptable. Absent? Especially anal. IF he had like 1/6 absences yea he should have had the course dropped but 1/6 absences?...

Oh btw don't give me any bullshit about the "real" world. it's overly redundant and quite pathetic.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: eits
my professor has this stupid attendance roll-call thing where if you're a minute late to class, he just marks you absent. you can't fight it, either.

i take medication that keeps me up late at night and some mornings, it's a struggle to get into class exactly at 7:20.... but i'm there for the entire class (except for maybe 2 minutes or so after he's done calling roll).

well, all of those "absences" piled up and now i failed the class due to attendance. now, i've got to pay to take the class all over again even though i was in the class.

i spoke with the professor about my situation. he told me to talk to the dean of student admissions about it. the dean of admissions told me it wasn't up to him and that it was up to the professor. he'd ok whatever decision the professor made. so, i went back to the professor and he said he's happy with his policy and feels no need to change his decision.

i asked if i got a note from my psychiatrist explaining the side effects of my drug and why i'm taking the dosage that i am after years of trial and error. he said it isn't up to him to interpret side effects of medication.

i kinda feel like i'm going to throw up right now.

Thats the kinda ****** where I'd retaliate... throw a brick at his car... accidentally knock him down a flight of stairs.... something to inflict pain....

Or, you know, maybe just set your alarm 3 minutes earlier! But hey, throwing a brick at his car is probably just as productive . :roll:

****** that ... his professor is just a power tripping SOB... there's no need to be an ass like that... in real life you're not going to get in any trouble for showing up for work 3 minutes late.

That arrogant bastard needs to be taught a lesson... I would go apeshit on him like you couldn't imagine... I would start digging for ways to get his ass canned...

Ooo.. out comes the eThug! :roll:

Sorry, but in the real world, there are tons of responsibilities that have tight-deadlines. Show up to your heart surgery 3 minutes late. Or a meeting iwth your clients. Or your kid's daycare a few minutes late, after his "uncle" picked him up.

To hell with all you spoiled little sh1ts that think the rules don't apply to you if they cost more than X amount of effort. Grow a pair and learn to deal.

Oh yeah spoiled sh1ts who show up 3 minutes late... Get a grip you anal retentive idiot... It would be one thing if he skipped a bunch of classes... but reality check.. he showed up 3 minutes late a few time for a 7:20AM college class. MY GOD people... are you really strung up that tight?

If you showed up to the day care 3 minutes late.. it's not going to be a problem... if you show up 3 minutes late to meet with your clients... it's going to be ok...

I certainly have no responsibilities with a 3 minute margin of error... do you? I'm curious to hear what they are... and how they make us 3 minute laters spoiled little sh1ts?

-Max

edit: language filter on the fritz

Guess you don't work in a field that had real deadlines. Or maybe personal responsibility is not your thing. Either way, you are right, 3 mins is not alot, but everyone is replacecable, and someone out there can do your job and not be 3 minutes late everyday.

 

[sonoma1993]

My college has an attendance policy. If you miss class 3 times in a roll, your automatically drop from that class. We have some students that come in, sign in, sit through lecture then leave. They dont bother doing the lab work. We also have a few students that show up 1hr late everyweek.

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: pclstyle

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: GarlicBreath
Your meds, right. Can't be your fault. Nobody's personally responsible for anything anymore.

How about this: If your class starts at 7:20, just tell yourself it starts at 7:00. Then if you're 2 minutes late, you'll really be 18 minutes early.

If my employees were habitually late for work or meetings, I'd fire them.

Take it as a life lesson and do better next time. The world's tough, kiddo. You gotta be tougher.

Oh you are so full of horse donkey... in the real world you wouldn't fire anyone who shows up within 3 minutes of the meeting time... you know that... so stop being such a poser.

Uh, consistently 3 minutes late to nearly every meeting, over the course of 5 months (semester equivalent)? And then if they had the nerve to come whining to me about being unfair after I'd already made the call to HR, when they hadn't bother with the respect of an excuse over the course of the past half year? I'd wouldn't even give them the courtesy of an audience, I'd have them escorted out. To bad professors are actually paid, thus expected to put up with a moderate level of bullsh!t.

funniest thing about this whole post to me was, the kid sure got his sh!t in gear once everything hit the fan- running back and forth between the professor, dean, and shrink?

Meds aren't stopping you now, are they?


EDIT: oh wait, gotta put the 'stupid attendance thing' up there too. yeah, we all hate that freaking attendance thing. you pay tuition, AND you're expected to go to class? what the hell is that? welcome to the real world, child.

I'm guessing the OP's grades weren't on the positive side of the bell curve as well; professors generally have a distaste for whiny slackers that can't pull their weight.

he showed up 3 minutes late a few time for a 7:20AM college class.

and you my friend, need to read a little more carefully- not to mention find a less sociopathic way of expressing yourself. his tardiness/absence was a consistent thing, thus the 'adding up' spoken of in the OP.

MAN you show what an asshole you are more and more per post.... what a pigheaded jerk..

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: eits
my professor has this stupid attendance roll-call thing where if you're a minute late to class, he just marks you absent. you can't fight it, either.

i take medication that keeps me up late at night and some mornings, it's a struggle to get into class exactly at 7:20.... but i'm there for the entire class (except for maybe 2 minutes or so after he's done calling roll).

well, all of those "absences" piled up and now i failed the class due to attendance. now, i've got to pay to take the class all over again even though i was in the class.

i spoke with the professor about my situation. he told me to talk to the dean of student admissions about it. the dean of admissions told me it wasn't up to him and that it was up to the professor. he'd ok whatever decision the professor made. so, i went back to the professor and he said he's happy with his policy and feels no need to change his decision.

i asked if i got a note from my psychiatrist explaining the side effects of my drug and why i'm taking the dosage that i am after years of trial and error. he said it isn't up to him to interpret side effects of medication.

i kinda feel like i'm going to throw up right now.

Thats the kinda ****** where I'd retaliate... throw a brick at his car... accidentally knock him down a flight of stairs.... something to inflict pain....

Or, you know, maybe just set your alarm 3 minutes earlier! But hey, throwing a brick at his car is probably just as productive . :roll:

****** that ... his professor is just a power tripping SOB... there's no need to be an ass like that... in real life you're not going to get in any trouble for showing up for work 3 minutes late.

That arrogant bastard needs to be taught a lesson... I would go apeshit on him like you couldn't imagine... I would start digging for ways to get his ass canned...

he's the head of radiology... he's not gonna get canned. he actually isn't that mean a guy... he's just being extremely anal and unbending in my situation.

after he told me his decision was final, i reitterated my situation to him and said, "i mean, can you understand my situation? do you see absolutely no room for leniency?" and he said "understanding your situation is one thing... what i am prepared to do about it is another."

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Why is it critical to his learning experience that he needs to be there 2 minutes earlier? It's not.

It is because he fails if he doesn't do it. Maybe his professor is an asshole, but it doesn't matter, if he wants a degree, then he has to pass the class. If he wants to pass the class, he needs to be there on time. Hence, it's critical that he gets there on time.

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: eits
my professor has this stupid attendance roll-call thing where if you're a minute late to class, he just marks you absent. you can't fight it, either.

i take medication that keeps me up late at night and some mornings, it's a struggle to get into class exactly at 7:20.... but i'm there for the entire class (except for maybe 2 minutes or so after he's done calling roll).

well, all of those "absences" piled up and now i failed the class due to attendance. now, i've got to pay to take the class all over again even though i was in the class.

i spoke with the professor about my situation. he told me to talk to the dean of student admissions about it. the dean of admissions told me it wasn't up to him and that it was up to the professor. he'd ok whatever decision the professor made. so, i went back to the professor and he said he's happy with his policy and feels no need to change his decision.

i asked if i got a note from my psychiatrist explaining the side effects of my drug and why i'm taking the dosage that i am after years of trial and error. he said it isn't up to him to interpret side effects of medication.

i kinda feel like i'm going to throw up right now.

Thats the kinda ****** where I'd retaliate... throw a brick at his car... accidentally knock him down a flight of stairs.... something to inflict pain....

Or, you know, maybe just set your alarm 3 minutes earlier! But hey, throwing a brick at his car is probably just as productive . :roll:

****** that ... his professor is just a power tripping SOB... there's no need to be an ass like that... in real life you're not going to get in any trouble for showing up for work 3 minutes late.

That arrogant bastard needs to be taught a lesson... I would go apeshit on him like you couldn't imagine... I would start digging for ways to get his ass canned...

Ooo.. out comes the eThug! :roll:

Sorry, but in the real world, there are tons of responsibilities that have tight-deadlines. Show up to your heart surgery 3 minutes late. Or a meeting iwth your clients. Or your kid's daycare a few minutes late, after his "uncle" picked him up.

To hell with all you spoiled little sh1ts that think the rules don't apply to you if they cost more than X amount of effort. Grow a pair and learn to deal.

Oh yeah spoiled sh1ts who show up 3 minutes late... Get a grip you anal retentive idiot... It would be one thing if he skipped a bunch of classes... but reality check.. he showed up 3 minutes late a few time for a 7:20AM college class. MY GOD people... are you really strung up that tight?

If you showed up to the day care 3 minutes late.. it's not going to be a problem... if you show up 3 minutes late to meet with your clients... it's going to be ok...

I certainly have no responsibilities with a 3 minute margin of error... do you? I'm curious to hear what they are... and how they make us 3 minute laters spoiled little sh1ts?

-Max

edit: language filter on the fritz

Guess you don't work in a field that had real deadlines. Or maybe personal responsibility is not your thing. Either way, you are right, 3 mins is not alot, but everyone is replacecable, and someone out there can do your job and not be 3 minutes late everyday.

BS... I meet my deadlines... if I have work due... it gets done early in fact. But showing up to work 3 minutes one way or the other of your due time isn't going to make any difference to anyone.

 

[thomsbrain]

the prof seems stubborn. no one is asking him to determine the side-effects of your meds, they are asking him to accept the determination of a trained and licensed professional whose sole purpose is to make just those determinations.

i suggest getting the letter from your psychiatrist and taking it to the dean and tell him what the prof said. also, i assume you passed all your exams, etc, so bring those along, too, to show that you did prove your mastery of the subject in a quantifiable way.

 

[Reckoner]

ATOT - Where you always get an opinion from people who never screw up, always show up time, and are generally perfect in every way

 

[MichaelD]

Holy shiit. There's like 4-5 people in this thread that actually GET IT.

OK, for those of you with the common sense of a Box Of Rocks:

1. The world owes you NOTHING. Your 4/5/6/10 years of school entitles you to grab your BALLS and nothing else, OK?

2. 8:00AM means 8:00AM (in that same time zone, idiot) NOT "Whenever the hell I wake up" or "When my meds and my Zodiac Advisor" permit me to release my Life Force and interact with society.

3. Your meds, your cat, your wife, your penchant for closing the strip club with Tequilla in one hand and a Scroll Of Hope For Humanity in the other are NOT excuses for getting up LATE. That's what it is, dumbell; YOU ARE GETTING UP LATE. No meds. No alcohol. No GF. YOU got up LATE. Notice those two BOLDED words? YOU and LATE?

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Doboji
MAN you show what an asshole you are more and more per post.... what a pigheaded jerk..

Originally posted by: Doboji
Thats the kinda ****** where I'd retaliate... throw a brick at his car... accidentally knock him down a flight of stairs.... something to inflict pain....

Originally posted by: Doboji
That arrogant bastard needs to be taught a lesson... I would go apeshit on him like you couldn't imagine... I would start digging for ways to get his ass canned...

:laugh: You're just too much, man. :laugh:

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: Blazin Trav

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I'm sorry that your meds have that effect on you.

That said:

If I know that the train I take to work is 15 minutes late EVERY morning, no matter what, I leave at least 15 minutes early to make up for it.

Your meds making you sleepy and making it difficult for you to get up in the morning is NOT an excuse for being late. Period. Your Prof is right; it's not his job to determine the side effects of your meds. That's YOUR JOB, buddy.

Judging by your avatar, I'd say you are a med student; you should know better, slacker.

God I hate anal people like you. DIAF.

How is that anal? He had a reponsibility and failed.

Guess what? I have 2 kids. They both sleep like crap which means I sleep like crap every night for the last 5 years. You know how many times I've been late for work? 2 times. Both times the bus broke down on the way to work.

Its his reponsibility to make it to class. If he can adjust his schedule accordingly, and he is REQUIRED to be there at XYZ time and he fails to make it there by then, its HIS fault.

in real life you're not going to get in any trouble for showing up for work 3 minutes late.

actually yes, yes you would... for MOST jobs you would be in trouble if it happened everyday.

it doesn't happen everyday. it happened 9 times the entire trimester. i stayed during the entire class, though. whenever i walk in 2 minutes late, he still hasn't even begun teaching.

 

[pclstyle]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: GarlicBreath
Your meds, right. Can't be your fault. Nobody's personally responsible for anything anymore.

How about this: If your class starts at 7:20, just tell yourself it starts at 7:00. Then if you're 2 minutes late, you'll really be 18 minutes early.

If my employees were habitually late for work or meetings, I'd fire them.

Take it as a life lesson and do better next time. The world's tough, kiddo. You gotta be tougher.

again, try doing that when you've had around 4 hrs of sleep every night.

hey, friend - i did my undergrad in 5 semesters and i'm starting med school in the fall. the year i've spent working did nothing but enforce how damn important it is to be punctual and reliable -- how effective you are in the office, in the labs, in the clinic comes definitively second. I had an attitude when I first started working too - cocky, fresh with the big MCL B.S., I did what I wanted, when I wanted. Learned the hard way fast that no one gives a sh!t what you're capable of if you can't be counted on to be present.

Though it's been beaten to death by now- Even if it's not now, you'll learn eventually that no one really cares what your excuses are. No one cares about anything about your productivity, and you won't get an ounce of sympathy past what the government and official policies mandate be shown to you. Learn it with an F, or learn it with a pink slip and a police escort - it's your choice.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
ATOT - Where you always get an opinion from people who never screw up, always show up time, and are generally perfect in every way

The difference is, when we fvck up, we don't expect everyone to feel sorry for us. Especially when we could've prevented it.

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: eits
my professor has this stupid attendance roll-call thing where if you're a minute late to class, he just marks you absent. you can't fight it, either.

i take medication that keeps me up late at night and some mornings, it's a struggle to get into class exactly at 7:20.... but i'm there for the entire class (except for maybe 2 minutes or so after he's done calling roll).

well, all of those "absences" piled up and now i failed the class due to attendance. now, i've got to pay to take the class all over again even though i was in the class.

i spoke with the professor about my situation. he told me to talk to the dean of student admissions about it. the dean of admissions told me it wasn't up to him and that it was up to the professor. he'd ok whatever decision the professor made. so, i went back to the professor and he said he's happy with his policy and feels no need to change his decision.

i asked if i got a note from my psychiatrist explaining the side effects of my drug and why i'm taking the dosage that i am after years of trial and error. he said it isn't up to him to interpret side effects of medication.

i kinda feel like i'm going to throw up right now.

Thats the kinda ****** where I'd retaliate... throw a brick at his car... accidentally knock him down a flight of stairs.... something to inflict pain....

Or, you know, maybe just set your alarm 3 minutes earlier! But hey, throwing a brick at his car is probably just as productive . :roll:

A typical college alarm only has 3 settings. "Slightly Late", "Really Late", and "Too Hungover for Class"

QFT. and i think most people know that they'll need to be on time once they reach the "real" world, and won't actually have any trouble doing so when it actually makes a difference. in college, the STUDENT is the one paying for the time, and they can make of it what they want.

 

[ruffilb]

Originally posted by: LoKe
Talk to your doctor (whoever provided the prescription) and get adequate proof along with a contact number. Go to your dean and and present your case and have him get into contact with your doctor. I see no reason why something can't be worked out if you've got a professional backing you up.

Originally posted by: Homerboy
you can be failed for non-attendance?

If you miss a certain number of classes, they can fail you. On a related note, OP, did you ever go to your professor or dean before hand, explaining why you may be late, etc?

:thumbsup:

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I'm sorry that your meds have that effect on you.

That said:

If I know that the train I take to work is 15 minutes late EVERY morning, no matter what, I leave at least 15 minutes early to make up for it.

Your meds making you sleepy and making it difficult for you to get up in the morning is NOT an excuse for being late. Period. Your Prof is right; it's not his job to determine the side effects of your meds. That's YOUR JOB, buddy.

Judging by your avatar, I'd say you are a med student; you should know better, slacker.

Wow, that's going a little too far, buddy. Who knows what sort of medication this guy is on. It may be PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for him to wake up after under X hours of sleep. Unless you're this guy's doctor, you don't know what's going on and I think you should wait to hear the whole story before you jump out and just flame him.

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Doboji

I certainly have no responsibilities with a 3 minute margin of error... do you? I'm curious to hear what they are... and how they make us 3 minute laters spoiled little sh1ts?

No, you misunderstood me. Being 3 minutes late doesn't make you spoiled.

Pitching a whiney-ass hissy-fit full of self-righteous indignation and threatening to cause physical harm to the professor and/or his property because he stuck to the rules as stated instead of bending them for you is what makes you a spoiled little sh1t. :laugh:

Like I said - grow the fvck up. Who the fvck ponders pushing a grown man down a flight of stairs for marking you absent when you are late for class? I'll tell you who, an immature little spoiled fvckwit brat of a pvssy, that's who.

What is said and wished is not necessarily done...

Reality check... obviously I'm not going to push the professor down the stairs... Furthermore I've already said the OP was stupid not to drop the class as soon as he realized the professor was a jackass. Which should have been as soon as he announced that stupid 2 minute rule thing.

I would however really really really really want to punch the professor in the head repeatedly... again.. obviously I can't do that... but that type of crap would make me violently angry. And I would have a hard time stopping to piss on him if he was on fire in the future.

-Max

P.S. That being said... if that situation did indeed get me kicked out of med school.. I might just throw a brick at his car... call me what you will.

 

[CaptainGoodnight]

By looking at your sig, do you happend to goto SLU?

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: BigJ
The professor's policy was in place the entire length of the class. The OP JUST decideds to bring it to the attention of his professor that his medication "supposedly" makes him 2-3 minutes late every single day.

it's a documented issue with my doctor. that's why i asked my professor if he would cut me a little slack if i presented him with the information.

i never said anything about getting revenge... i don't even want revenge. i just want my situation acknowledged and some leniency for an issue that i can't seem to fix.

 

[Reckoner]

I don't know about you guys, but when my biological clock gets acclimated to a certain time in terms of waking up, it's a bitch to change.

 

[EKKC]

hahaha thank god im no longer in college. tell the ahole prof to try to pull that "failing for absence" crap in grad school and he'll get sued.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
ATOT - Where you always get an opinion from people who never screw up, always show up time, and are generally perfect in every way

The difference is, when we fvck up, we don't expect everyone to feel sorry for us. Especially when we could've prevented it.

Exactly. I show up at work at 9:00am +/- ~2 hours. :laugh:. But I can do that. If my boss decides to become a hardass and expect me there on the dot, I may or may not make it. But I damn sure won't be whining about it on ATOT about how I got fired and it wasn't "fair" to me because of any condition that is completely within my realm of control.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: Blazin Trav

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I'm sorry that your meds have that effect on you.

That said:

If I know that the train I take to work is 15 minutes late EVERY morning, no matter what, I leave at least 15 minutes early to make up for it.

Your meds making you sleepy and making it difficult for you to get up in the morning is NOT an excuse for being late. Period. Your Prof is right; it's not his job to determine the side effects of your meds. That's YOUR JOB, buddy.

Judging by your avatar, I'd say you are a med student; you should know better, slacker.

God I hate anal people like you. DIAF.

No. You don't hate anal people like me.

The truth is, you can't stand to admit that you're a slacking POS that probably wears Birkenstocks every day and hasn't shaved in two weeks b/c "it's just too much trouble to put on socks and shave every day!" You probably feel that "schedules" are for "people that work for The Man" and you can't be bothered being held accountable for your own actions.

Grow up. The real world isn't going away and will be here when you pull your head out of your ass. The world operates on a CLOCK; that's why we have so many diff time zones. Life doesn't stop b/c you're on meds, or hungover or "not feeling particularly social today."

wow. yeah... that's me to a t :roll:.