RelaxTheMind
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Originally posted by: Coolone
But I like the moon!!
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Fly me to the moon. Let me sing among those stars.
Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Originally posted by: preslove
Fvck the Moon!
Sir, that's quite a difficult proposition...
Not really - for most people that means just shifting aim to the left or right a little. :laugh:
Originally posted by: tjaisv
clunky-ass human spaceships...
I'll be laughing as i pass u in my Grey UFO
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
I'd prefer Mars as well. There's a lot more to see there (possible life, more interesting geology, etc.) and the cost would be similar. Just because it's farther away doesn't mean it's harder to get too.
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
FVCK THE MOON I SAY!
Originally posted by: sierrita
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
I'd prefer Mars as well. There's a lot more to see there (possible life, more interesting geology, etc.) and the cost would be similar. Just because it's farther away doesn't mean it's harder to get too.
Yes it does.
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Originally posted by: sierrita
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
I'd prefer Mars as well. There's a lot more to see there (possible life, more interesting geology, etc.) and the cost would be similar. Just because it's farther away doesn't mean it's harder to get too.
Yes it does.
Not necessarily. The Delta-V to get to Luna from Earth is higher than it is to Mars. It's just a different set of challenges really. The moon offers a quick trip where you have to take everything (food, water, fuel, etc.) with you whereas Mars is a longer trip (more research can be done but also higher doses of radiation) that allows you to make many of the things you need (water and fuel) there. Taking everything with you takes up a lot of weight which raises the cost. It's a lot easier to build up decent infrastructure in a place that offers many of the things you need for life compared with one where you have to take every from Earth and transfer it hundreds of thousands of miles into space.
Originally posted by: sierrita
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Originally posted by: sierrita
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
I'd prefer Mars as well. There's a lot more to see there (possible life, more interesting geology, etc.) and the cost would be similar. Just because it's farther away doesn't mean it's harder to get too.
Yes it does.
Not necessarily. The Delta-V to get to Luna from Earth is higher than it is to Mars. It's just a different set of challenges really. The moon offers a quick trip where you have to take everything (food, water, fuel, etc.) with you whereas Mars is a longer trip (more research can be done but also higher doses of radiation) that allows you to make many of the things you need (water and fuel) there. Taking everything with you takes up a lot of weight which raises the cost. It's a lot easier to build up decent infrastructure in a place that offers many of the things you need for life compared with one where you have to take every from Earth and transfer it hundreds of thousands of miles into space.
Uh, we're talking a first trip here, therefore you WOULD have to take everything with you.
There is no way it is easier to get to Mars than the Moon.
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Originally posted by: sierrita
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Originally posted by: sierrita
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
I'd prefer Mars as well. There's a lot more to see there (possible life, more interesting geology, etc.) and the cost would be similar. Just because it's farther away doesn't mean it's harder to get too.
Yes it does.
Not necessarily. The Delta-V to get to Luna from Earth is higher than it is to Mars. It's just a different set of challenges really. The moon offers a quick trip where you have to take everything (food, water, fuel, etc.) with you whereas Mars is a longer trip (more research can be done but also higher doses of radiation) that allows you to make many of the things you need (water and fuel) there. Taking everything with you takes up a lot of weight which raises the cost. It's a lot easier to build up decent infrastructure in a place that offers many of the things you need for life compared with one where you have to take every from Earth and transfer it hundreds of thousands of miles into space.
Uh, we're talking a first trip here, therefore you WOULD have to take everything with you.
There is no way it is easier to get to Mars than the Moon.
Go read up on Mars Direct. Fuel, water, and oxygen is readily available on Mars. Reading the Case for Mars by Robert Zubrin is quite an eye-opener. His plan sure made NASA do a complete 180 on their ideas of how to get to Mars. Previously they WERE thinking that everything had to be brought with the astronauts there. Their plan in their 90-Day Report back in 1989-90 cost around $450-500 billion ($570-635 billion in 2004 dollars) compared with roughly $50 billion (I added a few billion to Zubrin's estimate, his was $40 billion, I believe) which would be the cost of Mars Direct.
So NASA rethought their plans and came up with a plan that has pretty much been dubbed Mars Semi-Direct that would send 5-6 astronauts at a cost of somewhere around $80 billion. So yes, a Mars program can be done "easier" (if easier=cheaper) or just as easily as a moon program.
Originally posted by: sierrita
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Originally posted by: sierrita
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Originally posted by: sierrita
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
I'd prefer Mars as well. There's a lot more to see there (possible life, more interesting geology, etc.) and the cost would be similar. Just because it's farther away doesn't mean it's harder to get too.
Yes it does.
Not necessarily. The Delta-V to get to Luna from Earth is higher than it is to Mars. It's just a different set of challenges really. The moon offers a quick trip where you have to take everything (food, water, fuel, etc.) with you whereas Mars is a longer trip (more research can be done but also higher doses of radiation) that allows you to make many of the things you need (water and fuel) there. Taking everything with you takes up a lot of weight which raises the cost. It's a lot easier to build up decent infrastructure in a place that offers many of the things you need for life compared with one where you have to take every from Earth and transfer it hundreds of thousands of miles into space.
Uh, we're talking a first trip here, therefore you WOULD have to take everything with you.
There is no way it is easier to get to Mars than the Moon.
Go read up on Mars Direct. Fuel, water, and oxygen is readily available on Mars. Reading the Case for Mars by Robert Zubrin is quite an eye-opener. His plan sure made NASA do a complete 180 on their ideas of how to get to Mars. Previously they WERE thinking that everything had to be brought with the astronauts there. Their plan in their 90-Day Report back in 1989-90 cost around $450-500 billion ($570-635 billion in 2004 dollars) compared with roughly $50 billion (I added a few billion to Zubrin's estimate, his was $40 billion, I believe) which would be the cost of Mars Direct.
So NASA rethought their plans and came up with a plan that has pretty much been dubbed Mars Semi-Direct that would send 5-6 astronauts at a cost of somewhere around $80 billion. So yes, a Mars program can be done "easier" (if easier=cheaper) or just as easily as a moon program.
Actually, I was not talking "cheaper".
I re-iterate; there is no way it is easier to go to Mars than the Moon.
Hint: degree of difficulty, greater potential for failures, not to mention the snakes.
