Future of pocket x86 PC,stick PC & the like of InFocus Kangaroo as Intel nixed Atom?

[virtuality]

The title as a proper, full sentence: What's the future of pocket x86 PC , stick PC and the like of InFocus Kangaroo PC as Intel discontinued/is discontinuing its Atom line of processors?

I don't know how the Celeron/Pentium line is similar, can replace the Atom in similar form factor PCs. Sorry, I'm not an expert in Intel CPU nerdery, but I hope I ask this in the right forum!

 

[corkyg]

A pocket PC is certainly mobile. It seems to be getting no attention in SNPB, so I am moving it to MD&G.

 

[quikah]

Apollo Lake seems to be going forward still. Not sure where they will go from there though.

 

[sm625]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102154

It has Core M. No need for atom. They just need to stop gouging. This Core M is smaller than the first atom, yet costs like 5x as much. Pure gouging.

 

[poofyhairguy]

They just need to stop gouging.

They won't be able to ignore the reality of ARM one day.

 

[StrangerGuy]

They won't be able to ignore the reality of ARM one day.

Nobody wants $300 HDMI sticks, period. Pricing is infinitely more relevant in this application than how much more faster a Core M is over more than good enough ARM SoCs.

Then for stuff that a HDMI stick that couldn't do, consumers already have a 5 year old Intel chips in PCs which is more than capable enough for that.

 

[Roland00Address]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102154

It has Core M. No need for atom. They just need to stop gouging. This Core M is smaller than the first atom, yet costs like 5x as much. Pure gouging.

If a HDMI stick with Core M3, 4gb ram, 64gb storage, 802.11 AC is $299 what is really gouging is not the HDMI stick but instead the tablet makers who are charging $300 more MSRP for only adding what? Screen, Battery, and a copy of windows? ($600 is the starting MSRP for core m3 tablets, $500 for core m3 laptops with mechanical hard drives)

So the compute stick dimensions

12 mm x 114 mm x 38 for the stick, 11 mm longer when you add the hdmi output metal

A nexus 7 is 8.7 mm thick, an ipad is 6.1 mm thick

A dime's diameter is 17.91 mm wide, a quarter is 24.33 mm wide

Surely someone could throw a 7 or 8" tablet chassis with battery and a 1920 by 1200 resolution. You may need a "little round hump" similar to the Yoga 8" tablet or the Dell Venue 10 but we are still talking a small tablet. Then sell it for $399. It does not matter if its android or windows.

 

[JimmiG]

There are also the $100 - $200 Win10 tablets with Atom, which are incredibly useful little gadgets. I hope they don't go away. My 10" 2in1 with the Z3735F travels with me more than my 15" laptop does. It can easily run the VPN client and a few applications I require to put out fires when I'm away from the office.

 

[virtuality]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102154

It has Core M. No need for atom. They just need to stop gouging. This Core M is smaller than the first atom, yet costs like 5x as much. Pure gouging.

To add insult to injury, the $300 is the sale price for the Core m3 Intel Stick, it retailed, retails for $400.

Sure, $100 gave you a crappy Atom, no one really wants to pay $300-400 for a Stick PC... but $200 could be a nice sweet spot for something like a Skylake Celeron or even better, I spotted a "Core M Pentium" in the Skylake lineup called the 4405Y.

A fully featured InFocus Kangaroo (the only Atom I have found with a 4.5/5 review rating or better on Amazon) also retailed for $200, with all the ports, bells and whistles.

 

[Raduque]

I really like my HP Spectre x2 with the 900mhz Core m3. It cost me ~$550 and included a keyboard. I'd pay $250-300 for a computer stick with the m3 and 64gb storage with 5ghz Wifi, BT and uSD slot.