Fury cards will NOT have HDMI 2.0 outputs

[JDG1980]

It's been reported by TechPowerUp, and later confirmed by Legit Reviews, that the Fury cards will not include HDMI 2.0 support.

It's hard to overstate how serious a blunder this is, especially given the manner in which AMD is marketing these cards. The presentation on the 16th made a very good case for the Fury as a card for gaming on 4K TV sets. Both the "Project Quantum" exhibit and the Fury Nano announcement appear to be designed for set-top use; they make much more sense in that role than when paired with traditional monitors. The problem is that the overwhelming majority of 4K TV sets do not have DisplayPort inputs. Instead, the only way to get 4K @ 60 Hz with 4:4:4 color is to use HDMI 2.0.

This means that Project Quantum is pretty much meaningless. It's clearly intended to be hooked up to a TV, but it can't do 4K@60 on a TV. Likewise, the people who were discussing the use of Fury Nano as a hybrid HTPC/gaming card are now all going to be bitterly disappointed.

No, it doesn't matter that DisplayPort is a technically superior standard - go tell that to the TV manufacturers. No, pointing to adapters that don't exist yet is not a viable excuse either.

This is just another example of AMD having the worst marketing department ever. And an example of how, once a company starts pinching pennies, it's already circling the bowl.

 

[iiiankiii]

It's no excuse. They screwed up. But adapters will be release. That will mediate the problem. The End.

 

[TemjinGold]

Wait, how do we know the Nano will not support it? Maybe that's why it's being delayed a couple months?

 

[happy medium]

Wait, how do we know the Nano will not support it? Maybe that's why it's being delayed a couple months?

Good point we don't know.

My guess why its gonna come later.......?
Because they have to harvest cut down, low clocking, Fury pro chips.
The reason Fury pro releases on the 14th of July? They have to harvest cut down Fury X chips.

Edit: Quick question, does the chip/gpu decide whether you have HDMI 2.0 or is that a feature on the PCB? If its the chip, I think you wont see HDMI 2.0 on the Nano.

 

[nvgpu]

Nano uses the same Fiji GPU, Fiji does not support HDMI 2.0 at all as AMD's employee already said and verified by many sites.

Nano will not have HDMI 2.0, making it absolutely useless for 4K 60Hz UHD TVs unless you like gaming in 30Hz.

http://www.hdmi.org/press/press_release.aspx?prid=133

BERLIN, Germany - September 4, 2013 – IFA 2013 – HDMI Forum, Inc., a non-profit, mutual benefit corporation, today announced the release of Version 2.0 of the HDMI Specification.

No excuses really for AMD, HDMI 2.0 specification was released back in 2013. Nvidia delivered HDMI 2.0 last year and the rest of the GM20x series in 2015 top to bottom has HDMI 2.0.

 

[happy medium]

Nano uses the same Fiji GPU, Fiji does not support HDMI 2.0 at all as AMD's employee already said and verified by many sites.

Nano will not have HDMI 2.0, making it absolutely useless for 4K 60Hz UHD TVs unless you like gaming in 30Hz.

WOW thanks that was fast.
So its the GPU.
Looks like no Hdmi 2.0 on Nano to me.

 

[5150Joker]

Well so much for Nano being a great HTPC card.

 

[dave1029]

It's even worse than 30hz. It's limited to 24hz... Typical AMD... now I'm definitely not upset at buying my Titan X's before AMD released. They just can't get anything right. Ultimately that's why I switched from my R9 295x2.

 

[TemjinGold]

So errr... "no HMDI kills the deal!"

 

[gdansk]

I knew it'd be something. For pinching pennies, it's not a bad area. Very few people have a 4K 60Hz television. (though the ones that do are among the most likely to buy a high end graphics card)

But it is of no issue to me as I'm using DisplayPort with my monitors.

 

[rchunter]

I'm more concerned about the lack of dvi than anything. I hope nvidia doesn't start cutting out dvi on future cards.

 

[5150Joker]

I'm more concerned about the lack of dvi than anything. I hope nvidia doesn't start cutting out dvi on future cards.

In all fairness, they probably will as DVI is a dying standard. AMD is just slightly ahead of the curve with that.

 

[rchunter]

In all fairness, they probably will as DVI is a dying standard. AMD is just slightly ahead of the curve with that.

Maybe so, if that happens the 980ti will be my last card for a good long while. I'm running a dl-dvi kvm so it's a lot harder for me to just change to display port.

 

[Lalilulelo]

I knew it'd be something. For pinching pennies, it's not a bad area. Very few people have a 4K 60Hz television. (though the ones that do are among the most likely to buy a high end graphics card)

But it is of no issue to me as I'm using DisplayPort with my monitors.

Same. Not an issue for me, only a minority of the community will complain about no HDMI 2.0 , and no dvi support , oh well...I'll enjou my 144 hz :awe:

 

[5150Joker]

Same. Not an issue for me, only a minority of the community will complain about no HDMI 2.0 , and no dvi support , oh well...I'll enjou my 144 hz :awe:

DVI is probably majority at this point.

 

[rchunter]

DVI is probably majority at this point.

So why cut it out if so many people are still running it? It's still a great option for 1600p or lower, providing the graphics cards have dvi ports on them :biggrin:.

 

[5150Joker]

So why cut it out if so many people are still running it? It's still a great option for 1600p or lower, providing the graphics cards have dvi ports on them :biggrin:.

Well it has to start at some point otherwise it would never disappear.

 

[Eric1987]

So why cut it out if so many people are still running it? It's still a great option for 1600p or lower, providing the graphics cards have dvi ports on them :biggrin:.

Whats the point of having DVI over HDMI?

 

[Despoiler]

You can do 4K@60hz over HDMI 1.4 using YCbCr 4:2:0 color. Remember this article.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8191/nvidia-kepler-cards-get-hdmi-4k60hz-support-kind-of

 

[rchunter]

Whats the point of having DVI over HDMI?

Can hdmi 1.4 do 2560x1600 60hz?

 

[Ire123]

sadly, a deal breaker for me.

 

[Wag]

You can do 4K@60hz over HDMI 1.4 using YCbCr 4:2:0 color. Remember this article.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8191/nvidia-kepler-cards-get-hdmi-4k60hz-support-kind-of

You can but it looks like shit. I'm doing it now on my OG Titans. Believe me when I say you don't want to do this for long-term use.

 

[Silverforce11]

If you really intend to buy Fury X but wont due to lack of HDMI 2..

Otherwise you can keep on faux-raging.

Ofc, the logical pov is Fury X + active adapter cost = $$ and that has to be measured up against the competition which has native HDMI2.

 

[n0x1ous]

If you really intend to buy Fury X but wont due to lack of HDMI 2..

Otherwise you can keep on faux-raging.

Ofc, the logical pov is Fury X + active adapter cost = $$ and that has to be measured up against the competition which has native HDMI2.

so is this adapter going to available next week? no? what about Korean dvi users?

Just admit that AMD is leaving a sizeable group of enthusiasts out in the cold with the I/O they are using on Fury X

 

[Silverforce11]

so is this adapter going to available next week? no? what about Korean dvi users?

Just admit that AMD is leaving a sizeable group of enthusiasts out in the cold with the I/O they are using on Fury X

DP to Dual-Link DVI adapters have been available for awhile now. The DP to HDMI 2 is something new.

Sure, the focus on DP on Fury X will reduce its compatibility, but it does support 2 active adapters. The adapter $ would have to be factored in for the total cost.