Furor Erupts Over Atheist Display At State Capitol

[fskimospy]

Awww, poor widdle man, somebody disagrees with him. Call the waaambulance.

I know your post says it was only 1PM when you wrote this, but were you drunk? Are you sad that someone said something mean about libertarianism?

 

[BoberFett]

Don't ask me, you're the one crying about a TV show and how it gets your panties all tied up in knots.

 

[fskimospy]

Don't ask me, you're the one crying about a TV show and how it gets your panties all tied up in knots.

... you're really trying too hard. On a side note, I call you stupid pretty frequently (often for things like this), do you think that I'm getting all knotted up when I remind you that you're a moron?

PS: Your post didn't make a lot of sense. I asked you if you were drunk or sad, and you responded 'don't ask me!'. Who am I supposed to ask?

 

[Modelworks]

Wait, what? Atheists might post topics on this message board but I can't remember the last time I saw an atheist going door to door trying to convert people, standing on a streetcorner in a sandwich board screaming at people, etc... etc.

Be religious all you want, but to say that atheists somehow trump religious people in their annoying attempts to convert you to their ways of thinking is pretty ridiculous.

Not ridiculous at all. If someone religious comes to my door I can say no thanks or not interested and 9/10 they will leave, no anger, no problem. Atheist or more accurately people who hate religion try to force their view on anyone who even mentions anything religion related and they do it with hate and anger as if even talking about the subject makes them feel insecure. Look at these forums, mention religion and people come out like wolves on a fresh kill. Maybe that is the trendy thing now, to look cool you have to beat up on religion. Gay bashing is no longer PC so the hate mongers had to move on to something else to give them purpose.

 

[Modelworks]

My Christian girlfriends family seem to only have one TV station, and thats whatever channel thats like a 24\7 church. On more than one occasion, Ive overheard some angry pastor on that TV station talking about how atheist are fools and how much they love to sin because we don't have any standard for morals, lol. So don't give me that "atheist are always mad" bullshit.

Was he really angry or was it more the fact what you were hearing made you angry ?
Sometimes the truth hurts.

 

[fskimospy]

Not ridiculous at all. If someone religious comes to my door I can say no thanks or not interested and 9/10 they will leave, no anger, no problem. Atheist or more accurately people who hate religion try to force their view on anyone who even mentions anything religion related and they do it with hate and anger as if even talking about the subject makes them feel insecure. Look at these forums, mention religion and people come out like wolves on a fresh kill. Maybe that is the trendy thing now, to look cool you have to beat up on religion. Gay bashing is no longer PC so the hate mongers had to move on to something else to give them purpose.

Are you attempting to claim that the religious are persecuted? Seriously?

 

[fskimospy]

Was he really angry or was it more the fact what you were hearing made you angry ?
Sometimes the truth hurts.

Anyone who says atheists don't have morals is an ignorant fool. Anyone who thinks that religion is necessary for morality is also an ignorant fool.

 

[Descartes]

Not ridiculous at all. If someone religious comes to my door I can say no thanks or not interested and 9/10 they will leave, no anger, no problem. Atheist or more accurately people who hate religion try to force their view on anyone who even mentions anything religion related and they do it with hate and anger as if even talking about the subject makes them feel insecure. Look at these forums, mention religion and people come out like wolves on a fresh kill. Maybe that is the trendy thing now, to look cool you have to beat up on religion. Gay bashing is no longer PC so the hate mongers had to move on to something else to give them purpose.

I think your biggest problem is that you're letting the activities of this forum somehow represent what happens in the real world. You have people firmly footed in every extreme imaginable participating here.

 

[jonks]

Not ridiculous at all. If someone religious comes to my door I can say no thanks or not interested and 9/10 they will leave, no anger, no problem. Atheist or more accurately people who hate religion try to force their view on anyone who even mentions anything religion related and they do it with hate and anger as if even talking about the subject makes them feel insecure. Look at these forums, mention religion and people come out like wolves on a fresh kill. Maybe that is the trendy thing now, to look cool you have to beat up on religion. Gay bashing is no longer PC so the hate mongers had to move on to something else to give them purpose.

Utterly ridiculous actually. You said funny how no religious people on this forum were trying to convert anyone. That's because all the ones assigned "conversion duty" were at my subway station attempting to hand out pamphlets this morning (and every morning). Or at the airport. Or walking door to door. I haven't seen the atheist tables set up anywhere yet.

You claim atheists are "angry" out of a sense of insecurity. I would say some athiests are angry because of thousands of years of persecution. But insecurity is a funny word given that "protecting the children" is the rallying cry against the sign on the xmas tree. Why do religious people fear children hearing that there are people out there who don't believe in the superstitions and dogma that they are taught is the god's honest truth? Why, because they are smart to do so. Frankly, the religious should fear children learning opposing viewpoints, because once children learn there is an alternative, they are likely to investigate that alternative, especially when the alternative doesn't tell anyone that they have to lie to themselves and pretend to believe that magical stories are real or that praying works. When a person is given a choice between fantasy and truth, those pushing the fantasy are correct to fear adherents' disillusionment. Ultimately, the loss of youth believers will not be recouped, and that means fewer people in the church seats, and that leads to the worst possible thing of all: less money for the church!

You do hit on one truth though. I believe in the internet age that anti-religious sentiment has blossomed. Prior to the widely available anonymous communication methods of today, people lacked a method to vent or locate those similarly afflicted by religion. Publicly declaring oneself an athiest would cause someone to be ostracized. People who were forced by their families or communities to repeat words they didn't believe or voice convictions they disagreed with or not marry someone they loved because of religious differences were quietly frustrated and felt trapped in a mad world where obvious falsehoods were paraded as ultimate truths. What you see on these forums is merely pushback for thousands of years against the tyranny of religion. Heretics used to be burned and killed, and today they merely have trouble getting elected, which is at least a start. Surveys tell us that the religiously unaffiliated, not necessarily atheist, is the largest growing "religious" community. People have had enough with myths and propaganda and being told they are all sinners. The Greek and Roman pantheon of gods are viewed today as myth. Modern day religions will also fail eventually, lies can't exist in perpetuity. The internet has allowed those who do not wish to live a lie to express their thoughts without fear of losing their friends, family or community. Such sentiments have always existed, it's simply that now those thoughts are able to find a public outlet.

Was the sign dickish? Maybe. Was it more dickish than the folks who stand outside abortion clinics shouting to teenagers and other women who find themselves in terribly difficult life situations that they will roast in hell for all eternity for their transgressions? I vote no.

CLIFFS:
1. Religious people aren't trying to convert on these forums because they're busy trying that shit everywhere else, and people on here by definition can read and as such are slightly more sophisticated a target; easier marks lie elsewhere

2. Religion has to hook the children while young, no one else would believe the bullshit they sling once they reach the age of reason

3. Atheists and anti-religious sentiment have always been around, they are just more visible now due to the anonymity provided by the internet, and the newfound freedom to express these thoughts without having to deal with real world consequences results in the apparance of an explosion of zealotry

Cliffs to the Cliffs:
organized religion is pretty dumb

 

[OutHouse]

interesting that he defiled a xmas tree for his stupid protest sign, i wonder why he didnt hang it from a Menorah or the festivus pole???