Funny thing happened on the way to Mitt Romney's speech, nobody came.

HomerJS

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Ok let me clarify. Mittens rented out a stadium with a 65,000 seat capacity. Only 1200 showed up. In polls the margin of error is often 4%. Less then 2% of capacity attended so statistically that is 0.

Looks like Republicans have a lot of work to do just to make this falls election a contest.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/201...nomic-speech-falls-flat-stadium?newsfeed=true
 
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bfdd

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lols, owned. No one supports Romney except the elite of the GOP. They're pushing him because he's their boy. Santorum is taking the rest of the kooks and everyone else is left with a thumb up their ass because the only candidate that would have had a chance dropped out awhile ago. Lols should have kept Cain, at least they could have gone for a "our black is blacker than your black" shit and maybe kept it competitive. Now they're going to get blown out of the water because they have far to long tried to grasp all power.
 

shiner

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Doesn't sound like they expected more than what showed up. It was at Ford Field because the event grew too large for the original venue and was moved.

Detroit Free Press

<-----Not a Romney supporter.
 

RedChief

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This is not a campaign rally but a speech infront of the Detroit Economic Club. I would think that it was only open to people in the club...
 

boomerang

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So is this yet another HomerJS title fail?
Why yes, yes it is.

What was also not reported was that we were under a winter storm warning for as much as 10" of snow. Snow that starting falling overnight and snarled up the morning commute, closed a slew of schools, etc., etc.

Grow up Homer. You've been posting here long enough that I know you've got to be out of grade school by now. Assuming they didn't hold you back. Oh...nevermind.
 
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This is horrible imagery for Romney, but they actually had to move to the field because the crowd was too large for where they had initially planned. This was never intended to be a stadium-filled event.
To: Katie Packer-Gage, Romney Campaign

Dear Katie:

Thanks so much again for a great day. It was a privilege to host Governor Romney and we were delighted to have such a terrific turnout of 1200 members and guests. Folks at the strolling luncheon afterwards were happily abuzz.

Sadly, I just heard that there is some confusion in the media regarding the selection of today&#8217;s venue. That is very disappointing after such a terrific meeting.

As I said in my remarks today, we sold out the previous venue in 90 minutes and were delighted that Ford Field was available and could accommodate the DEC. Further, we thought it a wonderful Detroit landmark to host this nationally broadcast meeting.

The original plan was to host the Romney meeting in the atrium, which is where we host DEC meetings when at Ford Field. During our walk through with the security team there were further issues raised due to the size of the crowd so we moved the event to the field. Had we followed our normal plan in the atrium, the football field would not have been visible - and the room would have been packed.

I so apologize for this confusion. Thank you again.

Best,

Beth
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...-for-empty-stadium-organizers-say.php?ref=fpa
 

feralkid

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This is not a campaign rally but a speech infront of the Detroit Economic Club. I would think that it was only open to people in the club...


If only you had read:

"Romney opened himself up to derision for choosing a 70,000-seat stadium which attracted just over 1,000 people, many of them school children bussed in to help fill out the crowd, tucked into a corner of the astro-turf pitch."
 

HomerJS

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Doesn't sound like they expected more than what showed up. It was at Ford Field because the event grew too large for the original venue and was moved.

Detroit Free Press

<-----Not a Romney supporter.

and you're trying to convince people that in the entire city of Detroit they couldn't find a venue that holds 1200 people? I've never been there but any large hotel could meet that requirement.
 

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My understanding is the Secret Service forced the event out into the stadium. Apparently it was originally going to be inside at one of the event rooms. The event was for CEO's and business people. I guess it's always easier to bash first and ignore reality later.
 

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My understanding is the Secret Service forced the event out into the stadium. Apparently it was originally going to be inside at one of the event rooms. The event was for CEO's and business people. I guess it's always easier to bash first and ignore reality later.

Yep, never let facts get in the way of a good story.
 

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I love how people make assertions about accuacy of my titles but don't prove me wrong.


Your title "Funny thing happened on the way to Mitt Romney's speech, nobody came." is wrong. More people came than they anticipated for that particular event at the original location at Ford Field so they moved it to a larger area. There, I proved you wrong so change the title. Even your article's title was more accurate "Mitt Romney's economic speech falls flat at near-empty stadium". Even though that title may be fact, it is misleading.

The original plan was to host the Romney meeting in the atrium, which is where we host DEC meetings when at Ford Field. During our walk through with the security team there were further issues raised due to the size of the crowd so we moved the event to the field. Had we followed our normal plan in the atrium, the football field would not have been visible - and the room would have been packed.
 
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dali71

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Your title "Funny thing happened on the way to Mitt Romney's speech, nobody came." is wrong. More people came than they anticipated for that particular event at the original location at Ford Field so they moved it to a larger area. There, I proved you wrong so change the title. Even your article's title was more accurate "Mitt Romney's economic speech falls flat at near-empty stadium". Even though that title may be fact, it is misleading.

Considering that in the past he has changed back an intentionally misleading title that a mod had edited, I wouldn't count on him correcting this one. He really is quite pathetic.
 

feralkid

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My understanding is the Secret Service forced the event out into the stadium. Apparently it was originally going to be inside at one of the event rooms. The event was for CEO's and business people. I guess it's always easier to bash first and ignore reality later.

(ahem)


If only you had read:

"Romney opened himself up to derision for choosing a 70,000-seat stadium which attracted just over 1,000 people, many of them school children bussed in to help fill out the crowd, tucked into a corner of the astro-turf pitch."
 

Lanyap

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(ahem)


If only you had read:

"Romney opened himself up to derision for choosing a 70,000-seat stadium which attracted just over 1,000 people, many of them school children bussed in to help fill out the crowd, tucked into a corner of the astro-turf pitch."

Romney did not chose the location. The DEC made the decision to move from the original event location to the FF atrium but then security did not like it and wanted it moved to the field. Details in OP's article are suspect at this point. Is there another source to back up the statement about bussing in school children for the purpose of filling out the crowd?


Romney Camp Not To Blame For Empty Stadium, Organizers Say

Mitt Romney&#8217;s speech in front of a 98% empty football stadium was the result of a last minute security change, according to two highly placed officials with the event&#8217;s organizer, the Detroit Economic Club.

The stadium was only chosen after a smaller venue sold out. Beth Chappell, president and CEO of the group, told TPM that the new plan was to hold the event in the stadium&#8217;s atrium, which wouldn&#8217;t have had a panoramic view of the venue&#8217;s empty 65,000 seats, but that the security team &#8212; which included Secret Service, Detroit police, and Ford Field security &#8212; did not approve.

&#8220;The security team had concerns when they did walkthrough so we had to move meeting to the field,&#8221; she said. &#8220;I am just sick that this has become an issue where there is none. We were thrilled with turnout.&#8221;

Following Friday&#8217;s speech Chappell sent the Romney campaign a letter clarifying the process after the setting was widely panned by commentators across the political spectrum, a development she wrote was &#8220;very disappointing after such a terrific meeting.&#8221; She added, &#8220;I so apologize for the confusion.&#8221;

Another board member, who asked not to be named, confirmed Chappell&#8217;s account and noted that the attendance was impressive for a club-organized event.

&#8220;I&#8217;m just being really honest with you, 1200 is a good crowd. Twelve hundred is one of the largest crowds they&#8217;ve had,&#8221; the board member said. &#8220;It wasn&#8217;t sparse &#8212; it was the way that they set it up.&#8221;

The member confirmed the Club president&#8217;s story that the event was moved to Ford Field because there wasn&#8217;t enough time to find a smaller venue for the (relatively) large crowd. They also confirmed the Secret Service&#8217;s role in moving the event from the atrium to the field itself, where cameras caught the mass of empty space that ended up overshadowing Romney&#8217;s speech.

Even though the truth might help Romney, whom the board member opposes, the member said it was important &#8220;to be fair.&#8221;

&#8220;I was there. And it was not sparsely attended,&#8221; the board member said. &#8220;That was one of the largest economic crowds I have ever seen.&#8221;

A spokesman for the Secret Service said that as a rule, they never discuss deliberations with staff publicly, but that in general it&#8217;s &#8220;very common&#8221; for the Secret Service to coordinate with campaigns about selecting the location of events.

Romney may not have had control over the visual optics of the event, but not all the negative headlines came from the empty space at Ford Field. While the speech was mostly unmemorable, Romney waxed poetic at one point about the Cadillacs his wife owns, a gaffe that entered the pantheon of Romney missteps, right up there with &#8220;I&#8217;m unemployed&#8221; and &#8220;I&#8217;m not concerned about the very poor.&#8221;

Chappell&#8217;s full letter to the Romney campaign explaining the stadium seating is below:

To: Katie Packer-Gage, Romney Campaign
Dear Katie:

Thanks so much again for a great day. It was a privilege to host Governor Romney and we were delighted to have such a terrific turnout of 1200 members and guests. Folks at the strolling luncheon afterwards were happily abuzz.

Sadly, I just heard that there is some confusion in the media regarding the selection of today&#8217;s venue. That is very disappointing after such a terrific meeting.

As I said in my remarks today, we sold out the previous venue in 90 minutes and were delighted that Ford Field was available and could accommodate the DEC. Further, we thought it a wonderful Detroit landmark to host this nationally broadcast meeting.

The original plan was to host the Romney meeting in the atrium, which is where we host DEC meetings when at Ford Field. During our walk through with the security team there were further issues raised due to the size of the crowd so we moved the event to the field. Had we followed our normal plan in the atrium, the football field would not have been visible - and the room would have been packed.

I so apologize for this confusion. Thank you again.

Best,

Beth

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...to-blame-for-empty-stadium-organizers-say.php
 
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