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tcsenter

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Ok, my opinion is worthless.
Unless its a well-founded and thoughtful opinion, not a screechy attack based in extreme partisanship because someone doesn't like Republicans, or is bitter that George Bush won the Presidential election, or is bitter that a Republican is getting the credit for liberating an oppressed country and would actually prefer to see its people continue to live under the rule of a murderous dictator rather than see a Republican get the credit for liberating them.

The value of your opinion is derived from the substance within it, not from your right to express it.
Expressing my opinion means nothing.
See above.
Sex is bad.
Ever heard of an analogy? Guess not.
Opinion is not worth money.
Ummm...nevermind.
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Just because you can do something does not mean you should do it, and we are responsible for listening to each opinion and it's arguments and using our conscience to determine whether someone else's opinion is worth anything to us.
Hey, you got one right! Well, almost right. It is our responsibility to scrutinize our own opinions, too. I'm afraid it will take much more than one's conscience to serve as a guide, it requires critical thought and a rejection of demagoguery as well. If we could raise the bar of political and public discourse a few notches, instead of the current Jerry Springer-esque climate, it would go a long way towards solving problems instead of fighting over them.
If you don't like getting flamed, thrown in prison, or being considered a communist (despite the fact economics have nothing to do with this) don't say anything that does not follow the status quo.
If you could provide an example of someone being thrown in prison because of their opinion, I'd sure like to see it.

We all know that happens in China and Iraq (though not for long, much to the chagrin of antiwar protestors and Bush haters). Of course, I was referring to the United States.

And Communism demands Party control over all manners of governance from the ground up in order to maintain and protect Communist tenets. Communism cannot survive without it. Communism cannot survive with it, either, because its a hopelessly unworkable ideology, but that's beside the point.

IOW, its far more than just an economic system.
 
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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: tcsenter
So, basically, what You are implying here, - is that anybody who dares to express a thoght that is different than that of the goverment or that of the media or that of the majority of the population, - is acting childishly and is an attention whore?

I'm impressed by Your intellect and logic!
While you have a right to your opinion, do not ever confuse your right to your opinion as the de facto measure that your opinion, therefore, must be as important or as valuable or as well-founded as all others. Its not.

The right to express your opinion is universal, since everyone has it in the US and it requires no particular intelligence to have just any opinion, you're certainly no more special for doing it, expressing it doesn't make you right.

It would be like exercising your reproduction rights just for the sake of exercising your reproduction rights because you can, without any regard whatsoever to whether you should (i.e. whether or not its a good thing to do). Hey, great, you have 23 children, none of whom you support or can take care of. Kudos for exercising your "rights". There are many problems in this country stemming from people doing various things for no other reason than because they can, not because they have determined they should do it.

So the question, at least in free countries, has never been 'can you voice your opinion', of course you can. The question is whether you should or whether your opinion is worth a thin red cent.

Who will be the judge of who's opinions are better than others? Well, that is your responsibility, primarily. When you fail in that responsibility, when you're so concerned with the "can" that you completely forget to consider the "should", others are just as free to bring to your attention how moronic you are.

If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

why do you keep addressing me? ("you")

what ever happened to "one"?

or should we just blame public schools again?

English is not the easiest language to learn, especially when it is not one's first language.

English is my third language

And I think that it is extremely easy to learn

 
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Originally posted by: Infos
Actually I think it is considered one of the most difficult to learn.
You're doing fine ;)


Wow! An expert opinion, must be ... let me ask You, - how many languages do You know? how many have You learnt?

English is easy

Especially the grammar, - should take no more than two weeks
 

SnapIT

Banned
Jul 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Munchies
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Munchies
Originally posted by: DaWhim
I like this one
For some reason I find that quite disturbing. Vacancies available? Damn. Move to f'n nazi germany and say something bad about them. Be proud that in this country you have the right to criticize. Were protecting that right. To abuse it? get a dick. I wish he was dead (author)
Nazi Germany would be hard to move to... In germany today he could say whatever bad things he wants about the government (or the army, or whatever)...

Be proud that you have the right by not using it?
Still looking for where I said "today"..Can you help me. Usually one someone says nazi germany they are refering to the past. Unless you think germany has Nazi's there today?
:confused:
So you want him not only to move, but to do a bit of time traveling as well? err... why didn't you just say china or NK or whatever dictatorship of your choice?

BTW, i invoke goodwins law, a bit delayed, but still, i win... :D
I believe that you missed the point of his original post. He was not suggesting that people should not criticise the war. He was simply saying that people should not take out their anger at the war on the soldiers who are just doing their job by fighting it. If someone claims to hate death and yet posts things that make light of the death of a soldier, then it strikes me that there is an incredible incongruity.

ZV

No, i didn't miss the point, you, OTOH have missed the point entirely...

The thing is, making light of the fact that soldiers die in a war is another argument against war, in every war, soldiers will die, it's not the fault of the soldiers, nobody said that, but to look away from that fact only makes you blind to the horrors of war...

Whatever you stance is, moving to Nazi Germany would be impossible, he even got that part wrong...

Please explain to me how making light of the fact that soldiers die in war is an arguement against war? HAHAHAH he is dying fighting for another peoples freedom and to take down a blatnatly corrupt and evil government that kills its own people! DAMN that is SO FUNNY!!!!!

Get off the nazi germany thing also picking up on one little thing when you know ( or at least i think/hope you do) what he meant is stupid ( IMO ) and just avoiding the actual substance of the statements made.

I didn't say it was funny, did i? Was there a need for that? I cannot understand where you got it from...

An argument against war is that people die in war, yes, call me ignorant but i thing most people would agree with me that that is not just ONE argument against war, it's the STRONGEST argument against war...

There is a difference between making light of something and making fun of something, google it and check it out...
 

Maleficus

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May 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Infos
Actually I think it is considered one of the most difficult to learn.
You're doing fine ;)


Wow! An expert opinion, must be ... let me ask You, - how many languages do You know? how many have You learnt?

English is easy

Especially the grammar, - should take no more than two weeks


I'm sorry either you are a complete #@%(ing genius or this is bullshit, 2 weeks for grammar? as in all of it? I find this really hard to believe.
 

SnapIT

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Jul 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Infos
Actually I think it is considered one of the most difficult to learn.
You're doing fine ;)


Wow! An expert opinion, must be ... let me ask You, - how many languages do You know? how many have You learnt?

English is easy

Especially the grammar, - should take no more than two weeks

WTF is your problem?
 

Maleficus

Diamond Member
May 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Munchies
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Munchies
Originally posted by: DaWhim
I like this one
For some reason I find that quite disturbing. Vacancies available? Damn. Move to f'n nazi germany and say something bad about them. Be proud that in this country you have the right to criticize. Were protecting that right. To abuse it? get a dick. I wish he was dead (author)
Nazi Germany would be hard to move to... In germany today he could say whatever bad things he wants about the government (or the army, or whatever)...

Be proud that you have the right by not using it?
Still looking for where I said "today"..Can you help me. Usually one someone says nazi germany they are refering to the past. Unless you think germany has Nazi's there today?
:confused:
So you want him not only to move, but to do a bit of time traveling as well? err... why didn't you just say china or NK or whatever dictatorship of your choice?

BTW, i invoke goodwins law, a bit delayed, but still, i win... :D
I believe that you missed the point of his original post. He was not suggesting that people should not criticise the war. He was simply saying that people should not take out their anger at the war on the soldiers who are just doing their job by fighting it. If someone claims to hate death and yet posts things that make light of the death of a soldier, then it strikes me that there is an incredible incongruity.

ZV

No, i didn't miss the point, you, OTOH have missed the point entirely...

The thing is, making light of the fact that soldiers die in a war is another argument against war, in every war, soldiers will die, it's not the fault of the soldiers, nobody said that, but to look away from that fact only makes you blind to the horrors of war...

Whatever you stance is, moving to Nazi Germany would be impossible, he even got that part wrong...

Please explain to me how making light of the fact that soldiers die in war is an arguement against war? HAHAHAH he is dying fighting for another peoples freedom and to take down a blatnatly corrupt and evil government that kills its own people! DAMN that is SO FUNNY!!!!!

Get off the nazi germany thing also picking up on one little thing when you know ( or at least i think/hope you do) what he meant is stupid ( IMO ) and just avoiding the actual substance of the statements made.

I didn't say it was funny, did i? Was there a need for that? I cannot understand where you got it from...

An argument against war is that people die in war, yes, call me ignorant but i thing most people would agree with me that that is not just ONE argument against war, it's the STRONGEST argument against war...

There is a difference between making light of something and making fun of something, google it and check it out...


Maybe i'm ignorant then because i always thought to taking something lightly is like taking it in jest like its not serious, usually incorporated with jokes and humor.


Please explain to me the difference between making light of something and making fun of something. This seems to be an extreme case of splitting hairs to me...

From dictionary.com : make light of: To treat as unimportant: He made light of his illness.
 
Jan 8, 2003
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Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Infos
Actually I think it is considered one of the most difficult to learn.
You're doing fine ;)


Wow! An expert opinion, must be ... let me ask You, - how many languages do You know? how many have You learnt?

English is easy

Especially the grammar, - should take no more than two weeks

WTF is your problem?

I love You too

 
Jan 8, 2003
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Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Infos
Actually I think it is considered one of the most difficult to learn.
You're doing fine ;)


Wow! An expert opinion, must be ... let me ask You, - how many languages do You know? how many have You learnt?

English is easy

Especially the grammar, - should take no more than two weeks


I'm sorry either you are a complete #@%(ing genius or this is bullshit, 2 weeks for grammar? as in all of it? I find this really hard to believe.

I did not write "language", but "grammar"

and, since it was not the first foreign language that I learnt, I found it to be easy, much easier than native tongue or some other languages

also, as far as "hard to believe", - how many languages have You learnt to the point of being fluent in them? my point exactly ... give others some credit ...

 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Infos
Actually I think it is considered one of the most difficult to learn.
You're doing fine ;)


Wow! An expert opinion, must be ... let me ask You, - how many languages do You know? how many have You learnt?

English is easy

Especially the grammar, - should take no more than two weeks


I'm sorry either you are a complete #@%(ing genius or this is bullshit, 2 weeks for grammar? as in all of it? I find this really hard to believe.

I did not write "language", but "grammar"

and, since it was not the first foreign language that I learnt, I found it to be easy, much easier than native tongue or some other languages

also, as far as "hard to believe", - how many languages have You learnt to the point of being fluent in them? my point exactly ... give others some credit ...

If you really did only spend 2 weeks on grammar, it shows.
 

SnapIT

Banned
Jul 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Munchies
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Munchies
Originally posted by: DaWhim
I like this one
For some reason I find that quite disturbing. Vacancies available? Damn. Move to f'n nazi germany and say something bad about them. Be proud that in this country you have the right to criticize. Were protecting that right. To abuse it? get a dick. I wish he was dead (author)
Nazi Germany would be hard to move to... In germany today he could say whatever bad things he wants about the government (or the army, or whatever)...

Be proud that you have the right by not using it?
Still looking for where I said "today"..Can you help me. Usually one someone says nazi germany they are refering to the past. Unless you think germany has Nazi's there today?
:confused:
So you want him not only to move, but to do a bit of time traveling as well? err... why didn't you just say china or NK or whatever dictatorship of your choice?

BTW, i invoke goodwins law, a bit delayed, but still, i win... :D
I believe that you missed the point of his original post. He was not suggesting that people should not criticise the war. He was simply saying that people should not take out their anger at the war on the soldiers who are just doing their job by fighting it. If someone claims to hate death and yet posts things that make light of the death of a soldier, then it strikes me that there is an incredible incongruity.

ZV

No, i didn't miss the point, you, OTOH have missed the point entirely...

The thing is, making light of the fact that soldiers die in a war is another argument against war, in every war, soldiers will die, it's not the fault of the soldiers, nobody said that, but to look away from that fact only makes you blind to the horrors of war...

Whatever you stance is, moving to Nazi Germany would be impossible, he even got that part wrong...

Please explain to me how making light of the fact that soldiers die in war is an arguement against war? HAHAHAH he is dying fighting for another peoples freedom and to take down a blatnatly corrupt and evil government that kills its own people! DAMN that is SO FUNNY!!!!!

Get off the nazi germany thing also picking up on one little thing when you know ( or at least i think/hope you do) what he meant is stupid ( IMO ) and just avoiding the actual substance of the statements made.

I didn't say it was funny, did i? Was there a need for that? I cannot understand where you got it from...

An argument against war is that people die in war, yes, call me ignorant but i thing most people would agree with me that that is not just ONE argument against war, it's the STRONGEST argument against war...

There is a difference between making light of something and making fun of something, google it and check it out...


Maybe i'm ignorant then because i always thought to taking something lightly is like taking it in jest like its not serious, usually incorporated with jokes and humor.


Please explain to me the difference between making light of something and making fun of something. This seems to be an extreme case of splitting hairs to me...

Well, then i can understand why you didn't understand what i wrote and meant...

Taking something lightly and making light of something are two different things, they do NOT mean the same thing...

If you are saying that you are making light of the fact that soldiers die in a war, it means that you are showing the situation for what it is... that soldiers do die in a war... it does NOT mean that you take the dying of soldiers lightly...

Do you understand what i meant now?

[edit] obviously according to your edit, either i am wrong or there are two different meanings of "making light of"
 

Maleficus

Diamond Member
May 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Infos
Actually I think it is considered one of the most difficult to learn.
You're doing fine ;)


Wow! An expert opinion, must be ... let me ask You, - how many languages do You know? how many have You learnt?

English is easy

Especially the grammar, - should take no more than two weeks


I'm sorry either you are a complete #@%(ing genius or this is bullshit, 2 weeks for grammar? as in all of it? I find this really hard to believe.

I did not write "language", but "grammar"

and, since it was not the first foreign language that I learnt, I found it to be easy, much easier than native tongue or some other languages

also, as far as "hard to believe", - how many languages have You learnt to the point of being fluent in them? my point exactly ... give others some credit ...


The hard to believe part stems from the fact that English IS my native language and I don't even begin to comprened its grammar fully. You need to get off your high horse Mr. linguist.
 

Maleficus

Diamond Member
May 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Munchies
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Munchies
Originally posted by: DaWhim
I like this one
For some reason I find that quite disturbing. Vacancies available? Damn. Move to f'n nazi germany and say something bad about them. Be proud that in this country you have the right to criticize. Were protecting that right. To abuse it? get a dick. I wish he was dead (author)
Nazi Germany would be hard to move to... In germany today he could say whatever bad things he wants about the government (or the army, or whatever)...

Be proud that you have the right by not using it?
Still looking for where I said "today"..Can you help me. Usually one someone says nazi germany they are refering to the past. Unless you think germany has Nazi's there today?
:confused:
So you want him not only to move, but to do a bit of time traveling as well? err... why didn't you just say china or NK or whatever dictatorship of your choice?

BTW, i invoke goodwins law, a bit delayed, but still, i win... :D
I believe that you missed the point of his original post. He was not suggesting that people should not criticise the war. He was simply saying that people should not take out their anger at the war on the soldiers who are just doing their job by fighting it. If someone claims to hate death and yet posts things that make light of the death of a soldier, then it strikes me that there is an incredible incongruity.

ZV

No, i didn't miss the point, you, OTOH have missed the point entirely...

The thing is, making light of the fact that soldiers die in a war is another argument against war, in every war, soldiers will die, it's not the fault of the soldiers, nobody said that, but to look away from that fact only makes you blind to the horrors of war...

Whatever you stance is, moving to Nazi Germany would be impossible, he even got that part wrong...

Please explain to me how making light of the fact that soldiers die in war is an arguement against war? HAHAHAH he is dying fighting for another peoples freedom and to take down a blatnatly corrupt and evil government that kills its own people! DAMN that is SO FUNNY!!!!!

Get off the nazi germany thing also picking up on one little thing when you know ( or at least i think/hope you do) what he meant is stupid ( IMO ) and just avoiding the actual substance of the statements made.

I didn't say it was funny, did i? Was there a need for that? I cannot understand where you got it from...

An argument against war is that people die in war, yes, call me ignorant but i thing most people would agree with me that that is not just ONE argument against war, it's the STRONGEST argument against war...

There is a difference between making light of something and making fun of something, google it and check it out...


Maybe i'm ignorant then because i always thought to taking something lightly is like taking it in jest like its not serious, usually incorporated with jokes and humor.


Please explain to me the difference between making light of something and making fun of something. This seems to be an extreme case of splitting hairs to me...

Well, then i can understand why you didn't understand what i wrote and meant...

Taking something lightly and making light of something are two different things, they do NOT mean the same thing...

If you are saying that you are making light of the fact that soldiers die in a war, it means that you are showing the situation for what it is... that soldiers do die in a war... it does NOT mean that you take the dying of soldiers lightly...

Do you understand what it means now?


Yes, i understand what you meant now. You meant exposing the fact, bringing it to light etc etc, not making light of. Correct?
 

SnapIT

Banned
Jul 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Munchies
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Munchies
Originally posted by: DaWhim
I like this one
For some reason I find that quite disturbing. Vacancies available? Damn. Move to f'n nazi germany and say something bad about them. Be proud that in this country you have the right to criticize. Were protecting that right. To abuse it? get a dick. I wish he was dead (author)
Nazi Germany would be hard to move to... In germany today he could say whatever bad things he wants about the government (or the army, or whatever)...

Be proud that you have the right by not using it?
Still looking for where I said "today"..Can you help me. Usually one someone says nazi germany they are refering to the past. Unless you think germany has Nazi's there today?
:confused:
So you want him not only to move, but to do a bit of time traveling as well? err... why didn't you just say china or NK or whatever dictatorship of your choice?

BTW, i invoke goodwins law, a bit delayed, but still, i win... :D
I believe that you missed the point of his original post. He was not suggesting that people should not criticise the war. He was simply saying that people should not take out their anger at the war on the soldiers who are just doing their job by fighting it. If someone claims to hate death and yet posts things that make light of the death of a soldier, then it strikes me that there is an incredible incongruity.

ZV

No, i didn't miss the point, you, OTOH have missed the point entirely...

The thing is, making light of the fact that soldiers die in a war is another argument against war, in every war, soldiers will die, it's not the fault of the soldiers, nobody said that, but to look away from that fact only makes you blind to the horrors of war...

Whatever you stance is, moving to Nazi Germany would be impossible, he even got that part wrong...

Please explain to me how making light of the fact that soldiers die in war is an arguement against war? HAHAHAH he is dying fighting for another peoples freedom and to take down a blatnatly corrupt and evil government that kills its own people! DAMN that is SO FUNNY!!!!!

Get off the nazi germany thing also picking up on one little thing when you know ( or at least i think/hope you do) what he meant is stupid ( IMO ) and just avoiding the actual substance of the statements made.

I didn't say it was funny, did i? Was there a need for that? I cannot understand where you got it from...

An argument against war is that people die in war, yes, call me ignorant but i thing most people would agree with me that that is not just ONE argument against war, it's the STRONGEST argument against war...

There is a difference between making light of something and making fun of something, google it and check it out...


Maybe i'm ignorant then because i always thought to taking something lightly is like taking it in jest like its not serious, usually incorporated with jokes and humor.


Please explain to me the difference between making light of something and making fun of something. This seems to be an extreme case of splitting hairs to me...

Well, then i can understand why you didn't understand what i wrote and meant...

Taking something lightly and making light of something are two different things, they do NOT mean the same thing...

If you are saying that you are making light of the fact that soldiers die in a war, it means that you are showing the situation for what it is... that soldiers do die in a war... it does NOT mean that you take the dying of soldiers lightly...

Do you understand what it means now?


Yes, i understand what you meant now. You meant exposing the fact, bringing it to light etc etc, not making light of. Correct?

Yes, that is what i meant....

 

Mani

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This country was founded on the questioning of authority with the american revolution. There is nothing more un-American than telling people to leave if they express their opinion.

Call them misguided, stupid, moronic, or just flat out wrong - but calling them un-American is just hypocritical.
 
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Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Infos
Actually I think it is considered one of the most difficult to learn.
You're doing fine ;)


Wow! An expert opinion, must be ... let me ask You, - how many languages do You know? how many have You learnt?

English is easy

Especially the grammar, - should take no more than two weeks


I'm sorry either you are a complete #@%(ing genius or this is bullshit, 2 weeks for grammar? as in all of it? I find this really hard to believe.

I did not write "language", but "grammar"

and, since it was not the first foreign language that I learnt, I found it to be easy, much easier than native tongue or some other languages

also, as far as "hard to believe", - how many languages have You learnt to the point of being fluent in them? my point exactly ... give others some credit ...


The hard to believe part stems from the fact that English IS my native language and I don't even begin to comprened its grammar fully. You need to get off your high horse Mr. linguist.

Well, then either You are incredibly ... um, well ... not so smart ... or, not so capable when it comes to learning (languages). Or I indeed am a genius.

And thanks for the advice about the horse. It could not have possibly been caused by envy, eh?

had I wanted to taunt You, - truest me, - I would have. But I merely shared something with You. And, because You (making an assumption here) somewhat inferior as a result, - You now are getting rude with me.

Well, it's Your choice. Have a good one!

 
Jan 8, 2003
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Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Infos
Actually I think it is considered one of the most difficult to learn.
You're doing fine ;)


Wow! An expert opinion, must be ... let me ask You, - how many languages do You know? how many have You learnt?

English is easy

Especially the grammar, - should take no more than two weeks


I'm sorry either you are a complete #@%(ing genius or this is bullshit, 2 weeks for grammar? as in all of it? I find this really hard to believe.

I did not write "language", but "grammar"

and, since it was not the first foreign language that I learnt, I found it to be easy, much easier than native tongue or some other languages

also, as far as "hard to believe", - how many languages have You learnt to the point of being fluent in them? my point exactly ... give others some credit ...


The hard to believe part stems from the fact that English IS my native language and I don't even begin to comprened its grammar fully. You need to get off your high horse Mr. linguist.

Well, then either You are incredibly ... um, well ... not so smart ... or, not so capable when it comes to learning (languages). Or I indeed am a genius.

And thanks for the advice about the horse. It could not have possibly been caused by envy, eh?

had I wanted to taunt You, - truest me, - I would have. But I merely shared something with You. And, because You (making an assumption here) somewhat inferior as a result, - You now are getting rude with me.

Well, it's Your choice. Have a good one!

I was just trying to provide a diversion from all that war themed flamefest.

That is all.

Now I leave You so that You could enjoy it without interruption.

 

Maleficus

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Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Infos
Actually I think it is considered one of the most difficult to learn.
You're doing fine ;)


Wow! An expert opinion, must be ... let me ask You, - how many languages do You know? how many have You learnt?

English is easy

Especially the grammar, - should take no more than two weeks


I'm sorry either you are a complete #@%(ing genius or this is bullshit, 2 weeks for grammar? as in all of it? I find this really hard to believe.

I did not write "language", but "grammar"

and, since it was not the first foreign language that I learnt, I found it to be easy, much easier than native tongue or some other languages

also, as far as "hard to believe", - how many languages have You learnt to the point of being fluent in them? my point exactly ... give others some credit ...


The hard to believe part stems from the fact that English IS my native language and I don't even begin to comprened its grammar fully. You need to get off your high horse Mr. linguist.

Well, then either You are incredibly ... um, well ... not so smart ... or, not so capable when it comes to learning (languages). Or I indeed am a genius.

And thanks for the advice about the horse. It could not have possibly been caused by envy, eh?

had I wanted to taunt You, - truest me, - I would have. But I merely shared something with You. And, because You (making an assumption here) somewhat inferior as a result, - You now are getting rude with me.

Well, it's Your choice. Have a good one!

Maybe im an idiot, completely possible, but I do not know anyone at all that knows grammar completely for any language at all. And if i did know someone i doubt they would have learned it all in 2 weeks. That is all i was really saying. I would be pretty envious if I thought you were as smart as you claim to be but as of yet i am unconvinced. I don't think i am getting rude with you either, The highhorse bit was just letting you know you are coming off ( at least to me) as somewhat of a pompous and arrogant person, maybe take a step back and reevaluate?

 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
How many countries have You lived in, to form an opinion?

How many countries have You visited and stayed in for more than four weeks (to at least, get a shado0w of understanding as to what life there is like)?
Contrary to popular opinion, it is possible to both live in America and to remain up-to-date on world affairs. Living in a country is not a prerequisite for understanding its standard of living and political climate. Nice try.

ZV
Back home they have a sarcastic saying, - "let's argue about the taste of pineapples with those, who actually have eaten them". That is what Your pathetic attempts are like.

I have lived in more than one, more than two contries, and visited (staying for quite some time in each) quite a few. Thus, Your opinion on this is worth exactly nothing, while mine does count. And I state that You are wrong.

You lose

I win! (The Mexican)

buh-bye (SNL)
Flawed analogy. There is no available substitute for direct taste sensation. The acquisition of pure data and facts is sufficient, however, to decide the merits of a country. Living in a country is not the exclusive means of acquiring such data. I do not need to live in the UK, for example, to know that I would find their gun regulations oppressive or to know that I would find their public surveilance systems to be an invasion of privacy. I don't have to live in Canada to know that their socialist system increases taxes more than I am personally willing to endure, while at the same time failing to offer any significant improvement in quality of service over the US. I don't have to live in Mexico to know that their standard of living is insufficient compared to America.

Again, I say that your basic argument is flawed. You have as a premise that one cannot discover anything about a country via any means other than living there. That premise is blatantly false.

Thanks for playing, better luck next time. Perhaps you'll bother to study logic in the interim.

ZV
 

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Originally posted by: Rogue
What disturbs me in all of this is the continual bashing of the United States under the guise of "I'm free to say what I want, so I'm gonna hate my country!" It's getting really, really old. The KKK is free to say a lot of things too, that doesn't make it right.

Exactly what I was trying to get out.
 

Analog

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Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: SnapIT

May i ask who decides which questions are rational?

The department of homeland security. While it is debated you will be held in prison.


Bullshit much?

how many people do you know that have been thrown in prison by Homeland Security?

none so far.....