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**FUMING MAD** School system close to closing down my high school!!

NFS4

NFS4

No Lifer
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I was talking to my mom this morning and she said that she had some bad news. She told me that she was reading the newspaper and they are almost certainly going to close the high school, Hugh M. Cummings, (no jokes please😉) that I graduated from. At first, I was like WTF????

I graduated in '98 and the school was a great place to be (IMHO). Sure, we got the rap as being the "other" school since it wasn't on the ritzy side of town. Ratio was about 60% black, 40% white whereas the "good" school was about 80% white, 20% black. It's all well in good b/c our school was still good. There were like only 4 hispanic kids in our whole school (3 of whom spoke English). Kids didn't act up badly, teachers were great and our grades (as a whole) were great.

Turn to today and the school is filled with a bunch of kids that can't speak English (WTF!). The teachers are having the double whammy of trying to teach their English speaking students in addition to trying to teach English to students that are nearing adulthood. Test scores are in the dumps because (you guessed it), a large percentage of the kids can't speak/understand/write english.

So you've got this infection spreading throughout the whole school. The kids have no motivation to do any work, they could care less about going to school and the ones who do want to learn are suffering.

Sigh, makes me want to vomit! :|:|:|:|
 
discipline is one of the core issues destroying public schools

they need the parents to discipline their kids, not just teachers and administrators

too many parents back their rotten spoiled kids over the teachers/school , it teaches the children to disrespect authority
 
I just hope that terrorists dont figure out that mexico border security sucks and canada's is even worse.
 
Sounds like the school is at fault here, not the new non-english students.

My fiancé came from Vietnam and did not speak any English. But there were English as a 2nd language program setup at the high school and people that knew how to work with those that did not speak English. Seems the school keep playing the its not going to happen to us game and they got caught with their pants down. Mexicans moving into NC is not a new thing and the school should have been prepared. Bad management by the school.
 
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: jndietz
Yay for lax border security! WOO HOO!!!!
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Yeah how dare those people try to get a better life! The nerve I tell you.
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So just because they "try to get a better life" it's okay to do so illegally? Those who come over the right way have my support. Those who chose to sneak in have my middle finger.
 
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: jndietz
Yay for lax border security! WOO HOO!!!!
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Yeah how dare those people try to get a better life! The nerve I tell you.
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So just because they "try to get a better life" it's okay to do so illegally? Those who come over the right way have my support. Those who chose to sneak in have my middle finger.
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You are saying that if you were born and lived in poverty in mexico you wouldn't haul ass into the US using any means possible?

 
Originally posted by: BriGy86
Originally posted by: LcarsSystem
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: jndietz
Yay for lax border security! WOO HOO!!!!
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Yeah how dare those people try to get a better life! The nerve I tell you.
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Wow, thats pretty ignorant.
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agreed
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All I am sayign is put yourselves in their shoes, living in poverty, a lot of the factory jobs have moved to china, you can cross the border and make a life for yourself, are you telling me you wouldn't?
 
Originally posted by: gigapet
Don't worry our school systems will never see the hundreds of billions of dollars being spent on IRAQ.
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I would hope not. Government schools already get a ton of money and it is mostly wasted with schools actually getting worse. More money is not the solution.
 
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Sounds like the school is at fault here, not the new non-english students.

My fiancé came from Vietnam and did not speak any English. But there were English as a 2nd language program setup at the high school and people that knew how to work with those that did not speak English. Seems the school keep playing the its not going to happen to us game and they got caught with their pants down. Mexicans moving into NC is not a new thing and the school should have been prepared. Bad management by the school.
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It's one thing when you're teaching 4-5 kids English. But when you're dealing with a high school (and the issues that come with being a teenager) in addition to trying to teach them english and the standard course load, it's becomes a burden...especially when you're talking about a rather large percentage of non-english speaking students in the school.

My GF is even seeing it in her 1st grade class where she is doing student teaching. about 50% of the kids can't speak english and the bilingual students are the ones translating for the teachers. It's absolutely ridiculous.

How can the schools afford to do all of this bilingual training when existing teachers aren't even getting paid enough and the school system is already underfunded. You can't really blame the schools...
 
dont bring that "better life" bull sh!t in here. a better life isnt always a good one. having massive amounts of people running over here Fing over the schools even worse than our own kids are is NOT the answer. if your bleeding heart wants to help them so badly then tell them to stay the F out untill we get OUR issues resolved. once the US actually becomes an educationaly good place to go then i say bring a few over. A FEW. and help them out. your dumb liberal "let everyone in" idea SUCKS. here why not just let em all in and say F the schools for everyone. let America become the next mexico and then when noone can tell the difference between the two the border problems will be solved......idiot.
 
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Sounds like the school is at fault here, not the new non-english students.

My fiancé came from Vietnam and did not speak any English. But there were English as a 2nd language program setup at the high school and people that knew how to work with those that did not speak English. Seems the school keep playing the its not going to happen to us game and they got caught with their pants down. Mexicans moving into NC is not a new thing and the school should have been prepared. Bad management by the school.
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It's one thing when you're teaching 4-5 kids English. But when you're dealing with a high school (and the issues that come with being a teenager) in addition to trying to teach them english and the standard course load, it's becomes a burden...especially when you're talking about a rather large percentage of non-english speaking students in the school.

My GF is even seeing it in her 1st grade class where she is doing student teaching. about 50% of the kids can't speak english and the bilingual students are the ones translating for the teachers. It's absolutely ridiculous.

How can the schools afford to do all of this bilingual training when existing teachers aren't even getting paid enough and the school system is already underfunded. You can't really blame the schools...
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Then why is it a lot of other schools are getting the same students BUT they seem to cope and even test at or above average. Like I pointed out, my girls HS was ready for this and she and other non-english students did well and she even went on to college etc... Mind you that was over 5years ago. NC knew this would be a problem and did not plan for it.

Sorry, but it is the school systems fault. They got caught with their pants down.
 
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: gigapet
Don't worry our school systems will never see the hundreds of billions of dollars being spent on IRAQ.
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I would hope not. Government schools already get a ton of money and it is mostly wasted with schools actually getting worse. More money is not the solution.
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thats funny CT public schools havent seen a budget increase in 2 decades. Only the affluent towns have good schools.
 
Part of the reason I moved where I did from south Omaha is so my kid would be able to get a better education, because the teachers could concentrate on teaching. The part of town we lived in is referred to as "Little Mexico" and the schools were about 75% hispanic, with many ESL kids.
 
Originally posted by: BDawg
There's a ritzy part of Burlington?
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LOL. West Burlington is considered the "upper class" area. Near Colonial Mall and out 70 towards greensboro
 
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: gigapet
Don't worry our school systems will never see the hundreds of billions of dollars being spent on IRAQ.
Click to expand...

I would hope not. Government schools already get a ton of money and it is mostly wasted with schools actually getting worse. More money is not the solution.
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thats funny CT public schools havent seen a budget increase in 2 decades. Only the affluent towns have good schools.
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Sounds like a problem with the CT school system then. Atlanta City Schools spend ~$10,000 per child and single handidly drag down Georgia's scores to the bottom in the nation. Washington D.C. schools spend upwards of $13,000 per child and are some of the worst in the nation. Alot of that money is eaten up by waste, corruption, and bureaucracy which your example only proves even more.
 
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: jndietz
Yay for lax border security! WOO HOO!!!!
Click to expand...


Yeah how dare those people try to get a better life! The nerve I tell you.
Click to expand...


So just because they "try to get a better life" it's okay to do so illegally? Those who come over the right way have my support. Those who chose to sneak in have my middle finger.
Click to expand...

You are saying that if you were born and lived in poverty in mexico you wouldn't haul ass into the US using any means possible?
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If I knew that when I got there employers would not hire me if they cannot verify my legal status, and I was not eligible for goverment benefits, I would stay put.

But since I would be able to cross the border illegally, obtain a decent job (meaning not just the crap jobs that no one wants), and have more rights than a U.S. citizen, sure I would.
 
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Sounds like the school is at fault here, not the new non-english students.

My fiancé came from Vietnam and did not speak any English. But there were English as a 2nd language program setup at the high school and people that knew how to work with those that did not speak English. Seems the school keep playing the its not going to happen to us game and they got caught with their pants down. Mexicans moving into NC is not a new thing and the school should have been prepared. Bad management by the school.
Click to expand...

It's one thing when you're teaching 4-5 kids English. But when you're dealing with a high school (and the issues that come with being a teenager) in addition to trying to teach them english and the standard course load, it's becomes a burden...especially when you're talking about a rather large percentage of non-english speaking students in the school.

My GF is even seeing it in her 1st grade class where she is doing student teaching. about 50% of the kids can't speak english and the bilingual students are the ones translating for the teachers. It's absolutely ridiculous.

How can the schools afford to do all of this bilingual training when existing teachers aren't even getting paid enough and the school system is already underfunded. You can't really blame the schools...
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Then why is it a lot of other schools are getting the same students BUT they seem to cope and even test at or above average. Like I pointed out, my girls HS was ready for this and she and other non-english students did well and she even went on to college etc... Mind you that was over 5years ago. NC knew this would be a problem and did not plan for it.

Sorry, but it is the school systems fault. They got caught with their pants down.
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How many non english speaking student were in your girls school?
 
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