Full load temps for X2 4200+

[imported_TheRooster]

I am running a S939 X2 4200+ and when running an two instances of prime95, one set to each core, I show max temps of 66 °C on core #0 and 69 °C on core #1 using CPUID Haardware Monitor. This seems hot to me, should I be worried?

 

[dennilfloss]

Sounds like your heatsink is not properly seated or the readings are wrong. My apartment is scorching warm and my full-load (SETI Boinc) temps with such high ambient temperature are 51-52C according to Speedfan. How's the airflow in your case?

 

[Marty502]

Aren't the 4200 X2s the Manchesters? If so, they're pretty damn hot to begin with. Mine is.

Yes, you should be worried. What heatsink/fan combination are you using? What thermal paste? Are you overclocking? Using the default voltage? How's your case cooling?

EDIT: Crap, forgot something important: Core temp readings with X2 chips are very, very innacurate. You should get Lavalys' Everest, and check your CPU diode temperature. That's your real temperature. In any case, check if it raises with torture testing, just to make sure you aren't watching the wrong temperature.

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Originally posted by: Marty502
Aren't the 4200 X2s the Manchesters? If so, they're pretty damn hot to begin with. Mine is.

Yes, you should be worried. What heatsink/fan combination are you using? What thermal paste? Are you overclocking? Using the default voltage? How's your case cooling?

EDIT: Crap, forgot something important: Core temp readings with X2 chips are very, very innacurate. You should get Lavalys' Everest, and check your CPU diode temperature. That's your real temperature. In any case, check if it raises with torture testing, just to make sure you aren't watching the wrong temperature.

QFT, or your manufacturers temp monitoring software depending on what brand mobo you have. What heatsink are you using? Is it overclocked? Is it overvolted? What are your ambient temps? What case are you using? What fans and at what voltage?

P.S. should probably be in cases and cooling

 

[imported_TheRooster]

Originally posted by: Marty502
Aren't the 4200 X2s the Manchesters? If so, they're pretty damn hot to begin with. Mine is.

Yes, you should be worried. What heatsink/fan combination are you using? What thermal paste? Are you overclocking? Using the default voltage? How's your case cooling?

EDIT: Crap, forgot something important: Core temp readings with X2 chips are very, very innacurate. You should get Lavalys' Everest, and check your CPU diode temperature. That's your real temperature. In any case, check if it raises with torture testing, just to make sure you aren't watching the wrong temperature.

It is a Toledo core and I am using a stock heatsink from my old 3200+ Venice. Thermal paste is AS5 and I have recently re-applied and reseated the heatsink twice to see if that would correct the temps. It is not overclocked and its running at the stock 1.35 voltage. As far as cooling, the case side is off and I have two 120mm fan s running inside too.

Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
QFT, or your manufacturers temp monitoring software depending on what brand mobo you have. What heatsink are you using? Is it overclocked? Is it overvolted? What are your ambient temps? What case are you using? What fans and at what voltage?

P.S. should probably be in cases and cooling

I am using the sensors that are on the motherboard and CPU? The motherboard is a Chaintech VNF4-Ultra.

 

[imported_TheRooster]

Ok, update with temps from multiple sources since Marty502 recommended Everest after re-installing AS5 again last night. Its listed with idle / load

• Everest - Idle / Load
  Computer \ Sensor \ CPU: 36 °C / 36 °C
  
  CPUID Hardware Moniter - Idle / Load
  Core #0: 47 °C / 65 °C
  Core #1: 52 °C / 69 °C
  
  SpeedFan - Idle / Load
  Core: 52 °C / 70 °C
  
  PC Wizard - Idle / Load
  Processor Tempature: 36 °C / 37 °C
  Processor Tempature (Core 1): 47 °C / 64 °C
  Processor Tempature (Core 2): 52 °C / 67 °C

Some varied results and I am curious how Everest and PC Wizard report the processor tempature staying the exact same or only changing a degree between idle and full load with prime95 running on each core.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: TheRooster
It is a Toledo core and I am using a stock heatsink from my old 3200+ Venice. Thermal paste is AS5 and I have recently re-applied and reseated the heatsink twice to see if that would correct the temps. It is not overclocked and its running at the stock 1.35 voltage. As far as cooling, the case side is off and I have two 120mm fan s running inside too.

That's the problem. You're using an old stock heatsink. You need something better for AMD dual-cores, they put out a lot of heat. I had to upgrade to an opteron 4-heatpipe heatsink.

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Also, AS5 needs to cure for a minimum of 12 hours before it will seat and seal properly and give you your lowest temperatures. The "CPU" diode for A64 dual cores is essentially useless, go on the core temps. i would highely reccomend something better than a stock single core heatsinks and fan. Pretty much any aftermarket cooler will work notably better than the old stocker.

 

[geokilla]

AMD figures out the max temp for their temps by using the Tcase, not Tjunction. Use CoreTemp and see if CoreTemp can read the Tcase Max for your Toledo. I know it doesn't work on my Windsor core but it should work for your Toledo.

Also try using this site. I found this while I was trying to figure out what the max temperature for my Windsor is. There might be an older or newer one available, depending on which core you need. AMD How-to Read Temps

Hope it helps.

 

[Net]

i know our cpus are a lot different but.... i have an amd 64 4000+ with a zalman 90mm and it never goes above 32 C. Not that I have ever seen yet.