"full-album" vid's on You-Tube

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I was curious as to why I see so many of these on YT, specially given the fury all the major record co.'s (or the RIAA) went after Napster and "Allof Mp3". Yea, the quality is low but then again so were much of the stuff that was on "Napster", please discuss..
 

lxskllr

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It probably varies by label. WB were especially cunts regarding "infringement". Maybe the rest recognize the reality of their situation, and accept the dollars they wouldn't otherwise be getting by attaching ads to the videos.
 

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It probably varies by label. WB were especially cunts regarding "infringement". Maybe the rest recognize the reality of their situation, and accept the dollars they wouldn't otherwise be getting by attaching ads to the videos.

What I was noticing from the "Moody blues" thread was all of their album's are on YT in their entirety and not uploaded by EMI who owns the rights, basically a MB's fan just did it on his own. Honestly the quality is poor to medium at best but still like I had said, so was Napster, most stuff on it was 128K, some was lower but dial-up ISP's were still common at that time as well.
 

lxskllr

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What I was noticing from the "Moody blues" thread was all of their album's are on YT in their entirety and not uploaded by EMI who owns the rights, basically a MB's fan just did it on his own. Honestly the quality is poor to medium at best but still like I had said, so was Napster, most stuff on it was 128K, some was lower but dial-up ISP's were still common at that time as well.

In the Napster days they were still under the delusion of stopping the flood. Any label employee still under that delusion should be fired, cause they're useless to the business.
 

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In the Napster days they were still under the delusion of stopping the flood. Any label employee still under that delusion should be fired, cause they're useless to the business.

So "digital anarchy" is the new reality?
 

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This should be the new global slogan: "Don't want it on the internet? Don't make it."

Right or wrong, if you're concerned about it, you are just wasting peoples time. My guess is that the MPAA and RIAA with backing from the cable companies are building a time machine to go back in time and kill Dan Quayle.
 
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I get a kick out of how music is played in the bar where I hang out. Normally, the bartender plays Pandora on his smart phone. But they're all too cheap to purchase a Pandora One subscription, so there are ads played. If they want to play a specific song, which Pandora doesn't let you do, they pull up a YouTube video and play it in all its crappy sound quality.
 

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People can download music illegally on the internet now? I am shocked.

Well I wasn't talking about torrents which does require some ability to learn how to get the most out of it, I was referring to YT where nothing is required to install, learn to use, hope for seeds, just do a search and listen. I know most file-sharing sites like Mega-share got pinged by the RIAA IIRC.
 

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They may put ads on the video and make money for the record company -- a shit ton of money. Not a bad business model: you don't just make money off the single sale, you make it perpetually when someone comes back to listen to the song.

There are articles on this. Too lazy to find for you, but they're there.

Damn it, here:
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/jan/04/record-labels-making-money-youtube

OK. thanks, I see what they are doing, makes sense. I wonder if it matters if the album is uploaded from the label or an individual user, for instance most all of the "moody blues" albums have been uploaded by one user, maybe EMI (the copyright's holder) just notifies YT and starts collecting. I would think that the labels would want to upload low-sampling rate copies do discourage people from wanting to strip out the audio (if that's possible) from a flash or HTML5 format.
 

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I get a kick out of how music is played in the bar where I hang out. Normally, the bartender plays Pandora on his smart phone. But they're all too cheap to purchase a Pandora One subscription, so there are ads played. If they want to play a specific song, which Pandora doesn't let you do, they pull up a YouTube video and play it in all its crappy sound quality.

I'm doing that right now while downloading a movie + album I just bought from iTunes. Everything, even "out of print shit" and rare performances are on YT.
 

lxskllr

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OK. thanks, I see what they are doing, makes sense. I wonder if it matters if the album is uploaded from the label or an individual user, for instance most all of the "moody blues" albums have been uploaded by one user, maybe EMI (the copyright's holder) just notifies YT and starts collecting. I would think that the labels would want to upload low-sampling rate copies do discourage people from wanting to strip out the audio (if that's possible) from a flash or HTML5 format.

Youtube has an automated scanner, and if their robot determines the material you uploaded is copyrighted, you get notified, but nothing happens at that point. If the record company makes a claim on it(does Youtube rat you out?), they can decide to put ads on the video, with them being the beneficiary. They also have other choices, like limiting geographical region, stripping audio, and probably some other things. If you get too many complaints on your account, your account can be banned.

Grabbing audio/video is easy, and I've done it for rare stuff, but torrents are trivially easy also, and that's generally what people will do.
 

John Connor

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Yeah, I just listened to a full album of Sade. Fucked up part is I have the CD but didn't want to dig it out. LOL. What pisses me off is that I uploaded a Flight Simulator video of me flying the F-22 in Hawaii to the tune of Pink Floyd and some months after uploading the video it got muted. Yet I see all these songs and full albums? Really? WTF!