Fukushima Update: still none dead

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Jaepheth

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John Watson said:
Japan's radiation disaster toll: none dead, none sick
Date: June 4, 2013
John Watson - Senior writer

The nuclear debate shouldn't end with Fukushima fear.

Heard much about Fukushima lately? You know, the disaster that spread deadly contamination across Japan and spelt the end for the nuclear industry.

You should have, because recent authoritative reports have reached a remarkable conclusion about a supposedly "deadly" disaster. No one died, nor is likely to die, according to the most comprehensive assessments since the Fukushima nuclear plant was hit by a massive earthquake and tsunami in March 2011.

The accident competed for media space with the deaths of nearly 20,000 people in the magnitude 9.0 quake – 1000 times worse than the Christchurch quake – and tsunami, which wholly or partly destroyed more than a million buildings.

The nuclear workers were the living dead, we were told; hundreds of thousands would die if the plant exploded; even if that didn't happen, affected areas would be uninhabitable and residents' health would suffer for generations.

Instead, two independent international reports conclude that radiative material released from Fukushima's four damaged reactors, three of which melted down, has had negligible health impacts.

In February, the World Health Organisation reported there would be no noticeable increases in cancer rates for the overall population. A third of emergency workers were at some increased risk.

While infants in two localised hot spots were likely to have a 6 per cent relative increase in female breast cancer and 7 per cent relative increase in male leukaemia, WHO cautioned this was a small change. The lifetime risk of thyroid cancer, which is treatable, is only 0.75 per cent, so even in the worst-affected location it rose to only 1.25 per cent.

Now the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation has drawn on 80 scientists from 18 countries to produce a draft report that concludes: "Radiation exposure following the nuclear accident at Fukushima-Daiichi did not cause any immediate health effects. It is unlikely to be able to attribute any health effects in the future among the general public and the vast majority of workers."

The committee has had two years to build a fuller picture of radiation dosages (measured as mSv) and impacts. It finds most Japanese in the first and second years were exposed to lower doses from the accident than from natural background radiation's 2-3 mSv a year.

Also, "No radiation-related deaths or acute effects have been observed among nearly 25,000 workers involved at the accident site. Given the small number of highly exposed workers, it is unlikely that excess cases of thyroid cancer due to radiation exposure would be detectable."

Those workers, who were allowed a maximum short-term dose of 250 mSv, have been closely monitored. Of 167 exposed to more than the industry's recommended five-year limit of 100 mSv (a CT scan exposes patients to up to 10 mSv), 23 recorded 150-200 mSv, three 200-250 mSv and six up to 678 mSv, still short of the 1000 mSv single dosage that causes radiation sickness, or the accumulated exposure estimated to cause a fatal cancer years later in 5 per cent of people.

So, not even one case of radiation sickness to report.

A swift evacuation of 200,000 residents within a 20-kilometre radius of the plant helped protect them – WHO estimated most residents of Fukushima prefecture received doses of 1-10 mSv in the first year. By August 2011, however, the dose rate at the plant boundary was only 1.7 mSv a year.

The rapid decay of most of the radioactive material (iodine-131, which reduced to a 16th of its original activity in a month) also means the evacuated area has not been permanently blighted. Many residents have returned, although some areas have restricted entry until radiation drops below the 20 mSv-a-year threshold, expected in 2016-17.

Nor has the environment been devastated. The report says: "The exposures on both marine and terrestrial non-human biota were too low for observable acute effects."

The quake and tsunami damage is the real catastrophe.

About 1000 deaths have been attributed to evacuations. About 90 per cent were people older than 66, who suffered from the trauma of evacuation and living in shelters. Sadly, those of them who left areas where radiation was no greater than in naturally high background areas would have been better off staying.

Let's be clear, Fukushima was hit by a worst-case scenario: the world's fifth-most-powerful earthquake since 1900, a tsunami twice as high as the plant was built to withstand, and follow-up quakes of magnitudes 7.1 and 6.3. A Japanese commission of inquiry described it as a "man-made disaster" because of regulatory failure and lack of a safety culture.

This "perfect storm" hit a nuclear plant built to a 50-year-old design and no one died. Japan moved a few metres east during a three-minute quake and the local coastline subsided half a metre, but the 11 reactors operating in four nuclear power plants in the region all shut down automatically. None suffered significant damage. (The tsunami disabled Fukushima's cooling system.)

Yet such is the imbalance of dread to risk on matters nuclear that this accident was enough to turn public opinion and governments against nuclear power. Never mind that coal mining kills almost 6000 people a year, or that populations of coal-mining areas have death rates about 10 per cent higher than non-mining areas, or that coal emissions drive global warming.

And surely the fact that the more modern Onagawa nuclear plant was twice as close to the quake epicentre and shut down as designed, without incident, counts for something.

Japan struggled without 30 per cent of its generating capacity for almost two years before electing pro-nuclear Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in December. About 50 reactors are expected to restart within a year. Worldwide, more than 60 plants are being built and 300 are in the licensing process, the strongest growth since the 1970s.

Fukushima was serious, but it was not the end of the debate about nuclear power, nor should it be. And it's hardly an informed debate when the good news about smaller health impacts than anyone dared expect is so widely neglected.

So an incompetently run, outdated Nuclear plant gets hit by some of the hardest punches mother nature can throw... and this is the fallout?

Yeah, we definitely need to make sure that no more nuclear plants get built. EVER. :eyeroll:
 

DCal430

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This thing ignores key facts:

Large areas remain uninhabitable, and will remain so for decades if not longer. Areas more an 30 km from the plant have radiation that continues to exceed 150mSv a year.

FYI it is estimated to cost over 250 billion USD to clean up Fukushima. So even if no one dies the cost and environmental damage are way too much.

This is the same UN group who said so far the only people to die from Chernobyl are the plant workers, and estimated 4000 others will "die" from it, but after living for many decades. That the overall change in life expectancy for the area is undetectable.
 

Zorkorist

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It does, simply say,

Folks aren't dieing left and right.

The damage may be less than thought.

-John
 

1prophet

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This thing ignores key facts:

Large areas remain uninhabitable, and will remain so for decades if not longer. Areas more an 30 km from the plant have radiation that continues to exceed 150mSv a year.

FYI it is estimated to cost over 250 billion USD to clean up Fukushima. So even if no one dies the cost and environmental damage are way too much.

This is the same UN group who said so far the only people to die from Chernobyl are the plant workers, and estimated 4000 others will "die" from it, but after living for many decades. That the overall change in life expectancy for the area is undetectable.


You mean uninhabitable for decades if not longer like Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
 

Jaskalas

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Well they did create an exclusion zone, worked heroically to contain the melted reactors, and washed a significant amount of radiation into the ocean....

You're right though, we haven't heard of anyone dying from it.
 

DCal430

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You mean uninhabitable for decades if not longer like Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

No i mean uninhabitable like Chernobyl, hundreds of billions of USD are being spent to make these lands habitable and this will take decades to finish.
 

Zxian

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Liquid thorium. Self-shutdown in events like this. Non-weaponizable. No need for rediculously large cooling towers. Minimal radiation concerns. The concern comes with processing the material ahead of time.

Thermal reactors are old tech, and require external control to keep them safe.
 

CptObvious

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Hopefully it's true, but these reports are also conveniently released at a time when Japan is facing a huge energy dilemma. Without nuclear they have to import much more of their energy, and the falling yen is making that much more expensive. Hopefully this isn't a whitewashing to get the Japanese behind nuclear energy again.
 

lothar

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No i mean uninhabitable like Chernobyl, hundreds of billions of USD are being spent to make these lands habitable and this will take decades to finish.
How many hundreds of billions of USD was spent to make Hiroshima and Nagasaki habitable, and how many decades did it take to finish?
 

DCal430

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How many hundreds of billions of USD was spent to make Hiroshima and Nagasaki habitable, and how many decades did it take to finish?

The contamination here is significantly worst, it isn't even comparable. Large areas still are seeing over 150 mSv a year in exposure. We are talking about hundreds of square km remain uninhabitable.
 

BlueWolf47

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This also ignores that immediate death occurs from acute exposure to very high levels of radiation. The problem is not acute but long term chronic exposure over decades.
 

QuantumPion

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Liquid thorium. Self-shutdown in events like this. Non-weaponizable. No need for rediculously large cooling towers. Minimal radiation concerns. The concern comes with processing the material ahead of time.

Thermal reactors are old tech, and require external control to keep them safe.

Thorium-based breeders are actually more easily weaponize than U238. Especially ones using a liquid fuel cycle as the requisite equipment for processing the fuel is right on site.

Liquid fuel reactor designs are a trade-off. While you don't have to worry about the fuel melting, you have to worry about the fuel escaping (either by volatile products escaping, or melting through the system) which is still a major design issue.

The need for cooling towers has nothing to do with the plant design, just its location. Any large power plant will need cooling towers if it is not on a body of water.
 

Newell Steamer

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Well - that is enough for me.

Build one of them fancy new-clear reactors in my back yard. Go on now... but, watch out for the frackers, cell phone towers and powerlines,.. it's kind of tight back there.
 
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