"Fuel efficient" tires?

[AMCRambler]

Just order up a set on discount tire or tire rack. They'll ship them to you and you can take them to your favorite shop to get them mounted and balanced.

 

[0roo0roo]

fuel efficient tires

 

[thescreensavers]

^ you mean bicycle tires?

 

[ecom]

Couldn't find anything in the jam, didn't even say the tire pressure which is odd. 4k weight and 'passenger car' was all I found.

Some Toyotas had the pressure requirements at the bottom of the glove box.

look in all the door jambs and inside the gas door.

Gas door?

 

[LTC8K6]

Trunk lid is a common place, too.

 

[sdifox]

Nice work. $360 sounds reasonable for some decent tires. Besides, who drives their Camry to 130, let alone 118mph?

The driver might not want to, but the car does :biggrin:

 

[sdifox]

Some Toyotas had the pressure requirements at the bottom of the glove box.



Gas door?

Yeap, on my car the octane requirement and tire pressure is listed on the inside of the gas door.

 

[SooperDave]

See my sig. People are poking at fleabag... I'm surprised he hasn't been in this thread yet

Failbag is on vacation. I missed the straw...err, post so I don't know for how long.

 

[exar333]

Nice work. $360 sounds reasonable for some decent tires. Besides, who drives their Camry to 130, let alone 118mph?

(Because I can't resist)

Are you asking if someone willingly is driving 130mph in a Camry, or because the car won't slow down?

Edit: Too slow...

 

[Eli]

I think some of you are way off on this, though I'll admit I don't know a whole lot about the subject.

My Insight uses a brand of Bridgestone LRR tires, and I have heard that using any other tire can reduce MPG by up to 10.

I'd be interested in knowing if there are other options available, as it seems hard to find the stock tires for my car sometimes for some reason.

 

[NutBucket]

(Because I can't resist)

Are you asking if someone willingly is driving 130mph in a Camry, or because the car won't slow down?

Edit: Too slow...

The driver might not want to, but the car does :biggrin:

Owned because the car in question is a '95 Camry with a simple throttle cable

 

[sdifox]

Owned because the car in question is a '95 Camry with a simple throttle cable

You know what I mean...fact checking a joke...

 

[NutBucket]

Don't have to fact check...I knew that anyway

 

[JulesMaximus]

Different tires aren't really going to make much of a difference in fuel economy. Just make sure they remain properly inflated and you will get the best performance out of them possible.

 

[JeepinEd]

this.

tires can't improve your mileage without sacrificing traction and/or ride quality.

I have to disagree with you here.

I recently changed the tires on my commuter (Prius). I went from Goodyear Integrity to Michellin Energy Savers and the difference is night and day. Not only am I getting a better ride and better handling than the OEM's ever did, my gas mileage has increased by approx. 5 MPG. From the research I did, they have better wet braking and stopping power, as well.

 

[Zenmervolt]

I have to disagree with you here.

I recently changed the tires on my commuter (Prius). I went from Goodyear Integrity to Michellin Energy Savers and the difference is night and day. Not only am I getting a better ride and better handling than the OEM's ever did, my gas mileage has increased by approx. 5 MPG. From the research I did, they have better wet braking and stopping power, as well.

The OEM tires on the Prius are already energy efficient tires. What you are noticing is the improvement that new tires offer over a set of worn out tires.

ZV

 

[JeepinEd]

The OEM tires on the Prius are already energy efficient tires. What you are noticing is the improvement that new tires offer over a set of worn out tires.

ZV

I don't think so. I keep a close eye on my MPG average and it has remained constant, with a 2 MPG loss during the winter. My average is now 54MPG, which I had never achieved, especially during winter.

Here is a link to a tire test done by Tirerack: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/chartDisplay.jsp?ttid=121

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

The OEM tires on the Prius are already energy efficient tires. What you are noticing is the improvement that new tires offer over a set of worn out tires.
ZV

Hell, what about inflation? Old ones might have been off.

 

[Zenmervolt]

I don't think so. I keep a close eye on my MPG average and it has remained constant, with a 2 MPG loss during the winter. My average is now 54MPG, which I had never achieved, especially during winter.

Here is a link to a tire test done by Tirerack: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/chartDisplay.jsp?ttid=121

There's not a single tire in that test that I'd consider to have "good" traction. At best, it's a comparison of tires with "basically adequate" traction. I'd love to see the traction results with a few semi-performance tires like the Potenza G019 or Michelin Pilot Sport included.

Still, I hadn't stopped to think about the improvement in low rolling resistance tires since the Prius was introduced. While the OEM tires were low rolling resistance in their day, they have since been surpassed as you correctly noted. You were right about the newer LRR tires and I was wrong.

That said, IMO, the significant performance improvement offered by tires like the G019 or the Pilot Sport is more than worth the trade-off in fuel efficiency.

ZV

 

[JeepinEd]

Hell, what about inflation? Old ones might have been off.

Did you check the link I posted?
They found similar results to what I have experienced.

I do all my own service and maintenance. I change my own oil every 5K miles (2 - 3 months) and part of my routine is to rotate the tires and adjust the tire pressure. I normally lose about 1-2 PSI in that time frame.

 

[JeepinEd]

There's not a single tire in that test that I'd consider to have "good" traction. At best, it's a comparison of tires with "basically adequate" traction. I'd love to see the traction results with a few semi-performance tires like the Potenza G019 or Michelin Pilot Sport included.

Still, I hadn't stopped to think about the improvement in low rolling resistance tires since the Prius was introduced. While the OEM tires were low rolling resistance in their day, they have since been surpassed as you correctly noted. You were right about the newer LRR tires and I was wrong.

That said, IMO, the significant performance improvement offered by tires like the G019 or the Pilot Sport is more than worth the trade-off in fuel efficiency.

ZV

You are probably right in that the increased performance is a worth while trade-off, but then again, it's a Prius...... Not going to be pushing the handling envelope much in this car

 

[sdifox]

You are probably right in that the increased performance is a worth while trade-off, but then again, it's a Prius...... Not going to be pushing the handling envelope much in this car

Au contraire, turning is pushing the handling envelope on a Prius

 

[Zenmervolt]

You are probably right in that the increased performance is a worth while trade-off, but then again, it's a Prius...... Not going to be pushing the handling envelope much in this car

Did you know that you can induce a Prius to drift if you lift off a little too quickly in a corner? (Don't tell the fine people at Hertz what I was doing with their poor Prius.)

For a Prius, I can see using LRR tires. Same with an Insight. But even my Volvo feels a lot more secure with the G019 than it did with the previous generic all-season tires. Performance tires are the way to go if the car can make use of them.

ZV

 

[JeepinEd]

Did you know that you can induce a Prius to drift if you lift off a little too quickly in a corner? (Don't tell the fine people at Hertz what I was doing with their poor Prius.)

For a Prius, I can see using LRR tires. Same with an Insight. But even my Volvo feels a lot more secure with the G019 than it did with the previous generic all-season tires. Performance tires are the way to go if the car can make use of them.

ZV

Agreed.

(gonna have to try the drifting sometime....)

 

[Eli]

I'd be interested in trying some high performance tires on my Insight some time. I wonder if I would notice the MPG difference.

I would tend to agree that making sure your tires are inflated properly(to sidewall!!!!!111oneone) will make a bigger difference in fuel economy than the tire though.

Even just having one of the tires low on my Insight makes it impossible to induce lean burn and therefor get 60+mpg, let alone 75+.