Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
	
	
		
		
			Originally posted by: razor2025
	
	
		
		
			Originally posted by: nweaver
but it's not his internet...and when he gets his box hosed, and it starts spamming/DDOSing/brute forcing my boxes, then it IS my problem. 
It's like handing a kid who has never ridden a motorcycle before the keys to a 'Busa and telling him to have fun....chances are VERY good you will be scraping him off the road somewhere.
		
		
	 
That's a horrible excuse. With your logic, no one should ever put their box on the net.
		
 
		
	 
No, getting on the internet is different than offering services on the internet.
	
	
		
		
			Everyone will be cowering behind their outlets. What you should do is HELP him be a better administrator.
		
		
	 
We would, if he was ready to learn.
	
	
		
		
			Instead of just brushing him off a just another "newbie", why don't you give him some pointers on basic security?
		
		
	 
Why doesn't he come up with better questions?  The questions he has presented shows a lack of initiative by not trying to get hte informaiton on his own.  If he is not willing to work for the information, what makes you think he is actually going to 
learn something when spoon fed information?  
HOW-TOs promote a lack of understanding that kills the mind.  They are generally narrow and lack vital information about 
why things were done and other options available.  Plus, they're a pain in the dick to keep up to date and useful.
	
	
		
		
			You can always start off with simple things like configuring routers, setting up firewalls, and assigning permissions. Bitching about "another zombie again" isn't going to help anyone.
		
		
	 
It makes me feel better, so I guess you're wrong. 
 
So, where are your pointers?  Your documentation?  Your contribution to the series of tubes that makes up teh intarweb?