FTP server problem...

phillx800

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im trying to setup a FTP server using Cerberus. I have a Netgear DG834 router that i use to connect to the internet with but i think thats the one thing thats giving me the problems im having.

the error message is just basically no one can connect. it keeps coming up user name and password problems even when theres no passwords!!

can someone please help, id really like to get this to work! if anyone requires anymore information, please just ask!
 

phillx800

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i think i have done that right, although im not 100%.. for this i did...

inbound services:

service : port forward (tcp/udp:21)
action : allow always
send to lan server: 192.168.0.3
wan users: any
Log : always

i have also done another one, see below:

service : ftp (tcp:20,21)
action : allow always
send to lan server: 192.168.0.3
wan users: any
Log : always

i dont know what else there is i can do... i dont have anything on the left hand side menu of the routers to say anything more about port forwarding or anything like it. this was under firewall rules.. am i missing something or am i just stupid?
 

JackMDS

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First make sure that you Server works OK by connection to it internaly via another LAN computer, if OK.

Try it Directly on the Modem (I.e. bypass the Router).

P.S. Some ISPs block port 21 to disallow servers on clients side.

:sun:

 

phillx800

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i cant access the server with my sisters laptop (which is on my network..) i have been racking my brains to try and figure out what the problem is and i still cant understand what the hells going on!

what does it mean if i cant get the access through my sister laptop? what do you mean by bypassing the router? how would or could i do that?
 

oldfart

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If it is user/password problem, it is not a routing/NAT issue. Have you set up user accounts on the FTP server? Does Anonymous work?
 

phillx800

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Originally posted by: oldfart
If it is user/password problem, it is not a routing/NAT issue. Have you set up user accounts on the FTP server? Does Anonymous work?

i have tried everything that i can think of.. i have tried it without passwords, with passwords and neither of them seem to make any difference. it keeps coming with something about not being an NT user or something. i dont understand what the problem is.

i have emailed the person that makes it, hopefully i will hear from him, but i just dont understand why its not working. i really dont think im making any mistakes... maybe i need a reinstall or fresh install of windows? i dunno.. im just unsure whats going on! its not allowing anyone on at all.. not even my own pc that im hosting the server on!!!
 

phillx800

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Originally posted by: Quasmo
Try using bulletproof FTP

is that something you have to pay for or can if be a free thing? preferably, im looking for a free server program!! thanks for the help !! im downloading now!
 

phillx800

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Originally posted by: Quasmo
Try using bulletproof FTP

its still coming up with the same error messages, i do not know what else i can try or do to get this to work!
well, i will wait till i hear back from my ISP and see what they say..

thanks to all for the help :)
 

LED

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I have CuteFTP and Bulletproof which cost after the trial period so go with Filezilla which works better IMO...There's also a Filezilla Server(donations appreciated;))
 

phillx800

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Originally posted by: LED
I have CuteFTP and Bulletproof which cost after the trial period so go with Filezilla which works better IMO...There's also a Filezilla Server(donations appreciated;))

thank you for the extra programs to try! hopefully something might work! although, i really do think its down to the router and not any of the programs.. which is really annoying... i dont think i can possibly email anyone else to help me solve this!
 

phillx800

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Originally posted by: LED
I have CuteFTP and Bulletproof which cost after the trial period so go with Filezilla which works better IMO...There's also a Filezilla Server(donations appreciated;))

i must be really thick because im still getting the same darn errors!!! can not connect!! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
 

Atodd

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There must be a configuration you are missing or something. Otherwise I would just keep nagging your ISP for an answer. Probably the cause.
 

phillx800

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Originally posted by: Atodd
There must be a configuration you are missing or something. Otherwise I would just keep nagging your ISP for an answer. Probably the cause.

i think i am missing something, but i have no idea what! here are my inbound and outbound rules that i put in the router.

Out Bound:
Service: FTP(TCP:20,21)
Action:ALLOW always
Lan Users:(single address) Start: 192.168.0.3
Wan:Any
Log:always

Service: Port Forward(TCP/UDP:21)
Action:ALLOW always
Lan Users:(single address) Start: 192.168.0.3
Wan:Any
Log:always

In Bound:
Service: Port Forward(TCP/UDP:21)
Action:ALLOW always
Lan Users:192.168.0.3
Wan:Any
Log:always

Service:FTP(TCP:20,21)
Action:ALLOW always
Lan Users:192.168.0.3
Wan:Any
Log:always

is there anything THERE im missing? i have tried with and without passwords and all sorts, but still no joy at all. i really appreaite the help from all of you, thank you :)
 

phillx800

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Originally posted by: Atodd
There must be a configuration you are missing or something. Otherwise I would just keep nagging your ISP for an answer. Probably the cause.

i have now managed to get it working within my pc, but its not working over the network. i think this must have something to do with the port forwarding? i changed the listening port to 20 instead of it being 21. it seems to have made some difference, but it still wont allow me to log on using the IP address i have from my ISP...
 

Atodd

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I bet your ISP has something to do with it then. Most ISPs do not like having people host off of their connections when you are only using broadband.
 

phillx800

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Originally posted by: Atodd
I bet your ISP has something to do with it then. Most ISPs do not like having people host off of their connections when you are only using broadband.

so ive not missed anything whilst configuring the router? its annoying as hell, because the same thing worked where i used to live.. same program, same ISP, nearly the same hardware!

thanks all the same for the help :)
 

ttown

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Try doing an external port scan of your public ip address -- from here

I suspect that you'll find out that your ISP is probably blocking port 21 (and/or 20) -- I know I found out that mine is.... :(

edit: ...and my ISP was NOT blocking it about 6-12months ago....
 

JackMDS

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OK you got it from your PC.

Now you have to connect your Sister Laptop to a regular port on the Router and try to get it from the Laptop.

By doing so you check whether the ftp server can connect out of your computer. You are only using the Router?s Switch so the Router settings do not matter in this step.

Once you got this step straight deal with Internet connection.

Here read it slow....: Connecting through the Interne...rivate Network/Server.

Link to: Cable/DSL Routers - NAT & Ports.

:sun:
 

Atodd

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I am sure he has it configured right. But hosting is usually frowned upon by ISPs. They want you to upgrade to something dedicated with a static IP so they can make more money.
 

phillx800

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Originally posted by: Atodd
I am sure he has it configured right. But hosting is usually frowned upon by ISPs. They want you to upgrade to something dedicated with a static IP so they can make more money.

well i do have a static ip address with this ISP, it did work previously when i was with my ex girl friend, but now its not working. its a real shame, but if its not going to work then its not going to work.. nothing i can really do about it