Fry's N2U400 Sempron 2600+ combo adventure

mikeford

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Buying a complete system of basic parts from Fry's and the swapmeet has more than a touch insanity to it, but I did and here is how it is going.

N2U400 and Sempron boxed 2600+ cpu $80
Kingston ValueRam PC3200 512mb $60 (eek, its been returned, just noticed)
Maxtor ATA133 160 GB $70

Ati Radeon 9200 128 mb $45 (from FS/Trade forum)
400 watt P4 black case with front usb and sound $18 (swapmeet)

CDrom, floppy, and misc from spare parts.

Case is darn flimsy, and motherboard tray was riveted in, plus the hardware plastic bag had a cut so all parts gone except 5 screws, two of which were in the power supply, and I had to take it apart to get them out. First try mounting the motherboard was total snafu due to lack of parts and sense on my part. I found some standoffs, but tried case screws in three and messed up the threads, ending me up at Frys asking a stocking guy about how to do it. $4 bag of 10 cents worth of screws etc later, I found the fine thread screws the Frys guy suggested did indeed work fine. Rest of assembly went ok.

ECS manual says it will boot from USB CDROM, it won't, plus it very explicitly showed how to wire the floppy cable backwards, and those two items ate some serious time. Fortunately I have plenty of experience wiring a floppy backwards (light stays on, no action), so a bit of testing on a spare floppy drive and I wired it correctly. Failure to boot from my external USB CDRW was new to me, so I explored several dead ends before grabbing a spare CD drive and sitting it on top of the case. Maxtor CD formated the hard drive fine, but insisted I limit partition to 137, install xp and service packs, then run it again from windows to get the full 160 gb.

XP pro is installing right now, so mostly waiting, writing this. I expect I need to do a bios update, mine is like 10/2003, and the sempron is being seen as a 1100 athlon, with 100/200 FSB. More later


****************** Lesson so far, inspect items at purchase for return/missing parts.

 

Zap

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You'll need to read the ECS manual on how to set your FSB to 166, either by jumper or through BIOS. Your speed should be around 1830, which equals a Celeron 2400 (according to AMD).

For Windows XP to perperly install on a hard drive larger than 137GB and see the full capacity you need a Windows XP install CD with Service Pack 1 (or 2) "slipstreamed" into it.
 

mikeford

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I checked the ecs site and the bios update is to recognized newer amd chips like the sempron, so my next move is to flash the bios.

Right now the greater than 137 GB issue seems like typcial snafu. I have to format to 137 prior to OS install (since I don't have a slipstreamed etc. CD), but now that XP is installed with both service packs, don't I need to format again to get all of the 160 GB? Maxtor has a MaxBlast for windows, so maybe that will allow me to increase the partition without losing the xp install. I'm not worried doing a ghost image to DVDR is on my short list (so a format and reinstall via the ghost image is no big deal). On my previous system I just stuck in a Promise ATA133 card, but OTOH I haven't gotten around to taking it out new that the system is all up and running.
 

mikeford

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Bios flash worked nice and easy, but while it now shows the processor as a Sempron, it still is showing it as 1100 mhz and 100 mhz bus with 200 as memory speed (using Kingston DDR 400 PC3200 so this sucks).

No progress on getting the full 160 GB, Maxblast for windows appears to install exactly the same program that came on the CD. I have ghost around here someplace, and will shortly backup, format, and reinstall.
 

Zap

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If your Ghost is a recent enough version to support larger than 137GB, with your XP updated using service packs you can just ghost to another drive and then ghost back to this one, and it should see the whole thing. Other than that, you may try a new version of Partition Magic. For the CPU speed you have to read the manual on how to set the FSB to 166. On this board it is probably in the BIOS, on the same screen as the RAM timings.
 

mikeford

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A little digging and I found a 20 GB drive never opened packed away in my office, and just sat that on top of the case and ran cables up to it. MaxBlast 3 handled everything almost by accident. A check box in the maxtor wizard is something like use new drive as boot drive, and it formatted the NOS 20 GB and copied all the files from the big drive. I rebooted, popped into setup and made the 20 the primary, rebooted and XP came up just fine on the 20. I used Maxblast again, same checkbox, and the big drive formatted to 163 GB with files automatically copied over. I rebooted, set the big drive back as primary, rebooted and XP was fine on the big drive. After a bit more stuff gets installed, still just generic stuff, I may make a ghost to DVD-r, but I feel past the hump on this issue.

I will make one more post at least in this thread, a summary etc of what I learned, but I am not quite ready. Its looking good though.