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Fry's $89 1.0A Rtl Celeron & Mobo - Great Upgrade Board

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olddba

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Fry's (in Dallas) has the Shuttle AV18e mobo & retail, boxed Tualatin-core Celeron 1Ghz CPU for $89.

This makes a great upgrade for an old PII system for the following reasons:

1) Celeron should easily run at 1.33 Ghz with a 133Mhz bus speed (I'm 2 for 2 with this combo) and the mobo has voltage in BIOS

2) A new power supply is not required as it might be with a new AMD system

3) System runs very cool with the stock HSF, even overclocked to 1.33Ghz

4) Includes 1 ISA slot in case you are stuck with an old card

5) New SSE instruction set should make some video encoding, etc. run faster

6) Can even use old PC100 memory (courtesy of Via chipset -33Mhz setting) in a pinch

I wouldn't build a new system with this myself, but it's great if you have an old ATX system that needs an inexpensive boost.

They run this sale from time to time, so keep an eye out for it at your local Fry's if you miss it this time.
 
Nice deal. Same price here in LA. Also, doesn't the 1 Gig Celeron's already run at 133 bus? How would you overclock this thing?
 
The 1.0A Tualatin-core Celeron runs at 100Mhz. On both of mine, I simply removed the jumpers to override the default bus speed and select the frequency range of 133Mhz and above and everything worked perfectly.

I didn't even try to go above this speed because it was for somebody else and I didn't want the bus speeds running out of spec, etc.

I tested one for 2 days and it never even got warm to the touch and everything worked perfectly. I even loaded Windows with it overclocked to 1.33Ghz to make there were no problems.

Seems like a good deal for the price.
 
Just a warning: last time Fry's had this sale, ALL Celerons were customer returns. I get the impression that once Fry's accumulates enough returns and runs out of new ones, they advertise the combo 🙂
 
I bought this deal a bout a month ago.. so far its a great processor but the board is alright.. it SUCKS for overclocking.. i raise the FSB to 133 and all of a sudden my computer running at like 997 mhz.. it was really strange..
 
CaliKev,

On this mobo, did you change the jumpers on the board to make 133Mhz the default or just increase the clock through the BIOS.

When I set mine up, I increased the speed through the BIOS and it crapped out around 130Mhz and went back to 997. Then I changed the default on the mobo itself and it ran perfectly.

I'm sure the problem was caused by the fact that the bus was running out of spec at the 100 - 133 Mhz range, but right on in the 133 - ??? range.

If you haven't tried that I'll bet the results will be much better.
 
Fornax,

You are right about Fry's and customer returns. At my store (in Dallas) they always stock the shelves with the returns and keep the new product in overstock out of sight.

Since I have done this before, I know where the overstock is and I always insist that they get me a new board. The last two I bought were brand new everything, not returns.

Fry's service is horrible, so you have to learn how to wait on yourself. Also, I never pick up "other stuff" when I go. I just buy what's on sale and get out.

 


<< Frys also routinely has a $89 1.2 duron bare cpu deal with an ecs k7s5a 🙂

Either way, its a steal =D >>



The duron combo wasn't available this week, so I went with the celeron deal. I had the guy double check the duron to make sure, he said they would probably do it again in the next few weeks. This is for the same Dallas store.
 
I agree about the Duron deal being better for a new system... it has a lot more upgrade potential.

The Celeron is better, however, if you are upgrading because the ECS mobo is notoriously picky about power supplies, so you often have to budget a new power supply, which ruins the upgrade economics.

If you are building a new system, look for the Duron & ECS combo and get a case with a 300W or better power supply, and for an upgrade to an old ATX system look for the Celeron 1.0A combo.
 
oldba: thanks, I got your PM and I am at work now so I will try it at home. Anyway, I got a returned one for the CPU. I didn't see it until I got home. I might ask for an exhange though this weekend.



Thanks



Darno
 
AsSpenNy,

You might want to verify that your existing mobo can support the new .13 micron (Tualatin) processors. They use different voltages and only newer boards support them. This board comes with a Celeron 1.0A (Tualatin). There is also a Celeron 1.0 that is based on the old processor core and that WILL work with older boards, but that is not the processor included in this package.

I think Intel intentionally changed the voltage specs on these processors so that people couldn't use them to economically upgrade their older boards. Intel wants you to replace it with a new P4, instead.

I think Anandtech has a good article about these processors, if you want the details.
 


<< You might want to verify that your existing mobo can support the new .13 micron (Tualatin) processors >>



olddba
thnx for the info. I lookin to see if my board can handle it. thnx again for lookin out 😉 i will post with results
 
I know the Chip can definitely do more... I really didn't like and type of overclock... even the smallest amount of FSB it would change multipliers on me.. and I have no idea how that possible since the multipliers are locked... then again for $90 im not complaining...
 
This board is a little weird. Nextdoor neighbor bought this board for a C600 that I had to clock to 900 (Known to on soyo and asus) but so far wont go on Av18E V3.1. If I manually set the fsb to 100. boot to bios and set fsb to 100 and Volts to 1.55-1.60-1.7 no matter it will lock at detecting floppy...THis is what Shuttle Faq says, "Note: Before adjust CPU host frequency by jumper, you need to set CPU Host/PCI Clock in frequency/voltage control of BIOS setup program and remove all jumper caps from JP7"........Huh? If you pull ALL the caps, that will be 133, which a c-600 wont do. That sounds like you pull the jumpers while its still running, I dont think so.. I pulled the c-600 and mem, put them in my P3b-f, bang 900.....Any Ideas
 
I got this combo awhile back at the Portland Frys, and it makes for a pretty quick third system. Runs the 1.0A at 1.33g at default voltage, and runs cool and quiet... I am really pleased with it...

Dave
 
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