from xp win 7

[anikhtos]

what ...!?!?!?!?
this is no good
so far i can do half of the things i could do in xp
that is not upgrade that is downgrade
damn it i will reinstall xp and see how i will install the drivers
this is the worse windows ever
1)tick not to sent to recycle bin but files still send there !?!?!?
2)refuse to play some files xp did not have any problem (installed the same programs)
3)to do a simple thing is not available
4)aero is awfull give me windows classic theme

damn you gates may you burn in......
grrrrrrrrrrrrrr my nervesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

 

[gmaster456]

Perhaps we could help if you didn't have the grammar of a 9 year old.....

 

[Diogenes2]

If XP was getting the job done, why did you switch ?

 

[nemesismk2]

Perhaps we could help if you didn't have the grammar of a 9 year old.....

go easy on the user because english might not be his first language.

 

[Zorander]

I think OP needs to learn not to cling to the past (and think of all sorts of excuse to justify it).

Seriously, I was hooked the first time I tried Win7 RC and knew XP can finally be laid to rest.

 

[Charlie98]

I don't care for W7 but I understand the need to upgrade, at least on my business computer. Yep, W7 sucks as far as ease of use, but I'm commited to it for better or worse.

 

[Nothinman]

I don't care for W7 but I understand the need to upgrade, at least on my business computer. Yep, W7 sucks as far as ease of use, but I'm commited to it for better or worse.

The differences are so small yet they come with such an advantage I can't believe people still think XP is easier. The new startmenu and taskbar alone are worth it to me.

 

[corkyg]

go easy on the user because english might not be his first language.

Absolutely! OP's English is probably a lot better than gmaster456's Greek.

 

[JackMDS]

English or Not, this is the typical Forums related behavior as displayed in the USA, and world wide.

I.e., a lot of venting with No sentential focused info about the issue at end, adding to it some form of cursing, and wishing bad things onto people that at least are trying to make things better in a productive way.

I have old Wireless devices that do not work with Win 7 but work very well with Win XP.

Why? Because the devices' chipsets are 10 years old and do not contain instructions that enable writing drivers compatible with Win 7.

In the mind of some users this makes Win 7 inferior to Win XP.




P.S. On the other hand attacking the OP because is Native language is Not english, by American that "you know, like, you now, like, like, you know" can not speak even in one good coherent language, is rather comical. - - - - :biggrin:

 

[cheez]

The differences are so small yet they come with such an advantage I can't believe people still think XP is easier. The new startmenu and taskbar alone are worth it to me.

Nothingman, it is true, proven, that Windows XP is retarded (in good way) user-friendly. It's easy to use, simple, and f-a-s-t except for network file transfer and internet speeds.

Windows 7 search feature is terrible.
Windows 7 search over the network is terribly slow.
It's got too much *stuff* therefore it slows down the computer. It doesn't matter if you add more RAM. It's still slow in the memory.
You need to learn how to use Server OSes. They trump the crap out of Windows 7 in *speed*, there is no comparison. And they trump Windows 7 in security... Windows XP gets infected with virus most easily while the Windows 7 is some-what better but it is damn hard to infect Server OSes including the professional reign champ Server 2003.

The only thing I kind of like about Windows 7 is the theme is kinda pretty / fancy. That's it. But I think Mac OS X trumps Windows 7 in this regard, too.

A lot of OSes trump Windows 7. This is normal.
I don't like Windows 7 therefore I don't have it loaded on any of my home PC's. I have it at work because I have to use it for work to troubleshoot clients PC's problems related with Windoz 7.

 

[Nothinman]

Nothingman, it is true, proven, that Windows XP is retarded (in good way) user-friendly. It's easy to use, simple, and f-a-s-t except for network file transfer and internet speeds.

Windows 7 search feature is terrible.
Windows 7 search over the network is terribly slow.
It's got too much *stuff* therefore it slows down the computer. It doesn't matter if you add more RAM. It's still slow in the memory.
You need to learn how to use Server OSes. They trump the crap out of Windows 7 in *speed*, there is no comparison.

The only thing I kind of like about Windows 7 is the theme is kinda pretty / fancy. That's it. But I think Mac OS X trumps Windows 7 in this regard, too.

A lot of OSes trump Windows 7. This is normal.
I don't like Windows 7 therefore I don't have it loaded on any of my home PC's. I have it at work because I have to use it for work to troubleshoot clients PC's problems related with Windoz 7.

You're so full of misinformation that it's not funny and borderline scary.

 

[cheez]

You're so full of misinformation that it's not funny and borderline scary.

It's not misinformation. It is correct that Server OSes beat Windows 7 and run circles over the head in terms of security..... while it runs much faster and very, very responsive.

You defend on Windows 7 too much. I am here to assist that Windows 7 isn't all that.


Windows XP isn't great, but at least not as bad as Windows 7 when it comes to user-friendliness. So what OP posted is correct. The concept is there.

Oh you may want to re-read my previous post as I was editing my post.

 

[Chess]

this is pretty comical....

welcome to 5 years ago

 

[cheez]

this is pretty comical....

welcome to 5 years ago

Well, more like 10 years....

Being new doesn't mean it's automatically better.... Did you know? that most businesses and plants / factories use Windows XP??? And that's 32bit too. That's because it works the best and save companies the time and money. More productive. There is no time B.S. for trying to fight compatibility issues... time is the ultimate money.

 

[Nothinman]

It's not misinformation. It is correct that Server OSes beat Windows 7 and run circles over the head in terms of security..... while it runs much faster and very, very responsive.

You defend on Windows 7 too much. I am here to assist that Windows 7 isn't all that.


Windows XP isn't great, but at least not as bad as Windows 7 when it comes to user-friendliness. So what OP posted is correct. The concept is there.

Oh you may want to re-read my previous post as I was editing my post.

It's most certainly misinformation as Win7 and Win2K8 are 99% the same OS with different default configurations and licensing. There's very little technical difference.

How easy something is to someone is an individual and very subjective measurement. However, it's hard to argue that the new searchable start menu isn't a net win overall unless you prefer navigating large menus and lists by hand. 99% of the time all you have to do is hit the Win key and type a little bit about what you want and it finds it.

I'm no Win7 apologist, quite the opposite really and a full-time Linux user. But so far your posts have just been ignorant and straight up wrong.

Being new doesn't mean it's automatically better.... Did you know? that most businesses and plants / factories use Windows XP??? And that's 32bit too. That's because it works the best and save companies the time and money. More productive. There is no time B.S. for trying to fight compatibility issues... time is the ultimate money.

And how large of a poll did you do to come up with "most businesses"?

Most businesses have Christmas parties but completely ignore Hanukkah, does that mean Christmas is clearly better and saves them time and money? Of course not.

McDonald's kills in the fast food market, but does that mean their food is the best? Hardly.

They're still using it because it still works and don't want to spend the money on a transition. It has absolutely zero to do with it being the best or most efficient. If a company found out tomorrow that their plant software ran on Linux and was 5x as efficient and they could save 20% up front costs per location because there's no Linux licensing fees do you think they'd jump on it in a second? Of course not. They would have to do a big cost/benefit analysis and figure out if it was truly worth it in the long run. And if so, plan the transition and map it out over however many months or years it would take to convert each plant.

I can make up stats too. Most businesses don't do what's in their best interests because of short term costs. And this includes running on software >5 years old regardless of the issues.

 

[nemesismk2]

Absolutely! OP's English is probably a lot better than gmaster456's Greek.

the first thing I noticed about that users post was his location which is Location: Athens, Hellas lol

 

[JackMDS]

Most businesses have Christmas parties but completely ignore Hanukkah, does that mean Christmas is clearly better and saves them time and money? Of course not.

+1.

To add to it, there are places (like in Williamsburg in Brooklyn NYC) where celebrate only Hanukkah, that does not mean anything about the Holidays beside the indication of specific personal believes.

Entusisats know more about computers issues than the average person, but they tend to be much more myopic and see the world only through their personal narrow Glasses ignoring (or not knowing) the huge gamut of functional variance in the world.

I have Desktops and laptops running Win 7, as well as original iMac and Macbook.

It is Not a matter of Good or Bad. Functionally there is No way that I can do what I need to do for work using OSX.

 

[gmaster456]

Absolutely! OP's English is probably a lot better than gmaster456's Greek.

Fair enough. To be fair though I was not attacking OP because of his nationality.

 

[Nothinman]

i have installed 3 times W7 but it sucks

Then you're doing it wrong.

 

[anikhtos]

by the way because microsoft prevents manufaucters to write drivers to an old os and thus slowly making it impossible to stay in that when you have new hardware it does not mean that the new os is better. is a plain blackmail. as for the fun i was loyal to win98 for 8 years left them after a pc upgrade for xp. moving from win98 to xp there was a diferense in stability because a crashed program could not crash the whole system. that was a plus of xp over 98. 98 was so light os after 2000 hardware lol. win7 seems to be the same stability as the xp but it takes them something 30-40 minutes to defreeze. my flash drive has crashed. ocz recomended 2 software to try to get data back. so i pluged the flash drive run the programm and hmmmmm i am with a frozen computer write now. the only things that runs is what i have already launched. even the start menu crashed when i called it.
so i wonder how long it will take win7 to regain control of the system. so far 20 minutes of frozen system

 

[Nothinman]

by the way because microsoft prevents manufaucters to write drivers to an old os

Oh really? Where's your proof of this?

 

[cheez]

It's most certainly misinformation as Win7 and Win2K8 are 99% the same OS with different default configurations and licensing. There's very little technical difference.

It's not 99% same. Of course it is similar to Windows 7 as far as the platform goes, but that doesn't make both OSes equal. Windows 7 has too much sh#t in it which slows the system down, like system resource? Don't tell me more RAM will suffice. It's not that simple as you think. Also the way the servers handle memory is more advanced, hence it is called "server". Windows 7 will get raped badly by Server 2008 AND Server 2003 in speed. There is no comparison.

it's hard to argue that the new searchable start menu isn't a net win overall unless you prefer navigating large menus and lists by hand. 99% of the time all you have to do is hit the Win key and type a little bit about what you want and it finds it.

It doesn't. It doesn't give me what "we" want. Oh and waste a lot of time too.

And how large of a poll did you do to come up with "most businesses"?

I didn't poll it. No need to poll because they are everywhere, both United States of America AND the rest of the world. Do you know the population of business (including factories / plants, warehouses, etc) users use computer? Take at least 80% of that. It's huge. You won't even be able to count because too many. Due to extreme demand almost 100% of business websites (Dell, HP, Sony, Samsung, just to name a few) have drivers and software available for Windows XP. You need to get out of your home and do some checking. Don't you have a job? Check out the computers in the company you work for. You need to get out more. :$

Most businesses have Christmas parties but completely ignore Hanukkah, does that mean Christmas is clearly better and saves them time and money? Of course not.

You're losing it now. Stay focused. Thanks.

I'm LOSING IT. I'm trying to find excuses. Oh wee weeee McDonald's kills in the fast food market, but does that mean their food is the best? Hardly.

Can we please talk about the topic at hand? This has nothing to do with Windows XP having high demand.

They're still using it because it still works and don't want to spend the money on a transition. It has absolutely zero to do with it being the best or most efficient.

It has everything to do with it. The reason why you lose efficiency is because you get stuck trying to get program to work with Windows 7! Have you forgot what efficiency is? lol

If a company found out tomorrow that their plant software ran on Linux and was 5x as efficient and they could save 20% up front costs per location because there's no Linux licensing fees do you think they'd jump on it in a second? Of course not. They would have to do a big cost/benefit analysis and figure out if it was truly worth it in the long run. And if so, plan the transition and map it out over however many months or years it would take to convert each plant.

That was my point. Please pay attention! It takes too much time and money to transition to a new OS platform for most businesses. You need to get out more and see what the real-world is like, really.

And I did say Windows 7 excels in file transfer over the network and internet speeds, but of course only that doesn't make a good OS when it's so slow and inconvenient use of search feature as well as compatibility issues most business run into. This means more bugs too.

I can make up stats too. Most businesses don't do what's in their best interests because of short term costs. And this includes running on software >5 years old regardless of the issues.

It's not just short term costs. It's not that simple as you think. You lose time meaning you lose PRODUCTIVITY. Meaning businesses going down. You need to get out more and see what's real out there. Just because you like Windows 7 doesn't mean that everyone should use it. It's not just my choice, it's the business world out there.

I'm no Win7 apologist, quite the opposite really and a full-time Linux user. I'm shy...

Well THAT explains it! Case closed.



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[cheez]

Then you're doing it wrong.

You seem to get upset too easily if someone is against you or they don't like something that you like. This is public forum, sir.

 

[cheez]

HONEY I can tell you A LOT about the problems with Windows 7 outside of business users too.

It's HUMONGOUS....... full of problems and flakiness.

I can no longer play video files dirt fast like I was able to with Windows 2000, XP and 2003 Server.

That new direct X crap is causing problems and keep from my russian-built player to work at optimal level. The program supports Windows 7 but because the Windows 7 is so screwed up with direct X and other windows components that it can't properly enable hardware accleration. So now the video playback is crap. Not only is the speed decreased but also the pictures don't look right.

This is a downgrade. Fail fail..

 

[Puddle Jumper]

If Windows 7 runs slowly on your system then your system must be ancient. I ran 7 on a single core netbook with 2gb of ram and even then it was still faster than Xp.

I have to wonder if the people who rant about 7 being so horrible have even used it. You couldn't make me use an XP system at this point.