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Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
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How will the military vote if you remove absentee ballots?
Bring the soldiers home to vote or set up polling places abroad for them. If they weren't out following our "imperialistic" foreign policy they could be here and vote, do you disagree?
 

Jhhnn

No Lifer
Nov 11, 1999
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Properly administered, absentee voting presents few opportunities for fraud. That's the catch- properly administered. Oregon votes entirely by mail, essentially absentee ballots, enjoying one of the highest turnout rates in the country, something I support entirely.

They also encourage citzens to report suspected fraud, investigate it vigorously, and break the balls off of anybody they catch engaging in fraud, while publicizing it widely, thus discouraging anybody from getting stupid. I've linked this before, but it's worth reading for those who haven't-

http://democratherald.com/news/opinion/editorial/article_a3a58f66-548b-11df-ac8e-001cc4c002e0.html
 

shira

Diamond Member
Jan 12, 2005
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Fortunately, the law requires those who want a law removed to show why it must be removed instead of those who want it to stay showing why it must stay. The burden is firmly on those who claim it must be removed.
First of all, your post is a non sequitur, as you're implying that "proving that there's no significant voter ID fraud" (= proving a negative) is the only way to "show why the law should be removed." Clearly that's false.

Secondly, even if your assertion were correct, why would that be "fortunate" for Pennsylvania's voter ID law? Are you saying it's fortunate that it would be very difficult to overturn a law that "prevents" an insignificant problem while discouraging large numbers of otherwise-qualified voters from voting?

Don't evade; don't sidestep. Tell us what it would be "fortunate" for a law to exist that might prevent a handful of illegal votes from being cast while discouraging thousands of poor people from voting? Is that your idea of a "good law?"
 

cybrsage

Lifer
Nov 17, 2011
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Bring the soldiers home to vote or set up polling places abroad for them. If they weren't out following our "imperialistic" foreign policy they could be here and vote, do you disagree?
What about our sailors? Are you saying we should not defend our shipping?
 

cybrsage

Lifer
Nov 17, 2011
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First of all, your post is a non sequitur, as you're implying that "proving that there's no significant voter ID fraud" (= proving a negative) is the only way to "show why the law should be removed." Clearly that's false.

Secondly, even if your assertion were correct, why would that be "fortunate" for Pennsylvania's voter ID law? Are you saying it's fortunate that it would be very difficult to overturn a law that "prevents" an insignificant problem while discouraging large numbers of otherwise-qualified voters from voting?

Don't evade; don't sidestep. Tell us what it would be "fortunate" for a law to exist that might prevent a handful of illegal votes from being cast while discouraging thousands of poor people from voting? Is that your idea of a "good law?"
It is correct. You obviously do not know anything about PA law.

It is fortunate that someone who can easily get a Photo ID to vote is not able to remove a law due to her claim it is not easy to get a Photo ID to vote. Clear enough for you?
 

Jhhnn

No Lifer
Nov 11, 1999
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It is correct. You obviously do not know anything about PA law.

It is fortunate that someone who can easily get a Photo ID to vote is not able to remove a law due to her claim it is not easy to get a Photo ID to vote. Clear enough for you?
Your definition of "easily" is fail.

What's the point of requiring photo ID to vote (the new PennDOT voting only ID card) that's based on the same documentation that previously allowed somebody to vote, other than to make it more difficult to vote?

Just another hoop to leap through on the way to the polls?
 

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