From single core to dual core toledo

[CalvinHobbs]

"As Intel, AMD also bets on existing infrastructures to simplify the transition to the dual-core chip. However, while Intel will couple Smithfield with the 945 chipset and the 955X for the Extreme Edition dual-core, AMD's Toledo runs with the existing 939 chipset and remains in the same power envelope (110 watts) as the current single-core Athlon 64: AMD users, who want to run the processor, only have to switch the single-core for dual core chip and apply a BIOS update" read full article here http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050223_000100.html

 

[wakawaka]

now thats some excellent news!

 

[Tarrant64]

Bookmarked for later.

 

[CalvinHobbs]

that has put a real big smile on my face...now i know my choice of 939 over 754 was good all the time

 

[VirtualLarry]

"same power envelope".. these are still 90nm, correct? Not 65nm? That's pretty impressive of AMD.

 

[LTC8K6]

There's good news for Intel in there too. AMD isn't releasing the desktop chips first, and Intel will get new chipsets out which it needs to do badly. If the new chipsets help out with performance, that will be good for Intel, as they need a little boost.

If Intel can get a bit of a desktop dual core lead, that would hurt AMD.

An earlier Tom's article claims that HT will be left on for the dual core chips allowing 4 threads to run.

Of course, all of this is from Tom's so.........

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[CalvinHobbs]

any news

 

[ribbon13]

This has been on AMD's site for a while now...

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
This has been on AMD's site for a while now...

Yes, at least 2 months.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
There's good news for Intel in there too. AMD isn't releasing the desktop chips first, and Intel will get new chipsets out which it needs to do badly. If the new chipsets help out with performance, that will be good for Intel, as they need a little boost.

If Intel can get a bit of a desktop dual core lead, that would hurt AMD.

An earlier Tom's article claims that HT will be left on for the dual core chips allowing 4 threads to run.

Of course, all of this is from Tom's so.........

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Dual core CPU's won't really do much for most desktops anyway, so disregarding the marketing point of view, it's not really what Intel needs to catch up.

 

[gamerj]

AMD

 

[imported_Phil]

Holy flirking schnit! :thumbsup:

Been waiting to use that for a while now...

 

[Ike0069]

Originally posted by: Sunner
Dual core CPU's won't really do much for most desktops anyway, so disregarding the marketing point of view, it's not really what Intel needs to catch up.

I agree. AMD has already stated that the single core A64 FX line will remain their premier gaming processor even well after the release of the dual core chips.

 

[ribbon13]

They are releasing 64-bit optimized versions of some game's executables, why can't they optimize for SMP and do the same?

Game devs should really get used to this. All the next-gen consoles are SMP.

 

[biostud]

I guess there will be a slight price tag on the dual cores.................

 

[ribbon13]

I was told to expect the Egypt 848s to be about $1800 each.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Nice. Its good to hear that A64 users who want to upgrade to a dual-core chip will not need to buy a new motherboard.

 

[LTC8K6]

I think the enthusiasts will want dual 64bit cores on their desktops. Folks will want to burn discs while playing games, etc.

If Intel's dual cores do have HT, that will make the geeks want them all the more.

If Intel's dual core desktops start to show up in the benches and games as being fast*, the desire for them will spread quickly.

Don't forget that Intel will no doubt have a good ad campaign, so even if the dual cores aren't much faster, they will sell well even for desktops.

* by that I mean faster than Intel's single core chips.

I wish we knew what, if any, improvements the new Intel chipsets will bring.

 

[Ike0069]

It will take a lot more than slick marketing for me to switch to Intel. A LOT MORE.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
I think the enthusiasts will want dual 64bit cores on their desktops. Folks will want to burn discs while playing games, etc.

If Intel's dual cores do have HT, that will make the geeks want them all the more.

If Intel's dual core desktops start to show up in the benches and games as being fast*, the desire for them will spread quickly.

Don't forget that Intel will no doubt have a good ad campaign, so even if the dual cores aren't much faster, they will sell well even for desktops.

* by that I mean faster than Intel's single core chips.

I wish we knew what, if any, improvements the new Intel chipsets will bring.

Dual Cores eliminates the need for HT (except for the Xeon line).