From Gore's persective..

GoldenBear

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How many people here have spent a whole year of their lives dedicating it toward just one thing? Not only that, but dedicate it toward just a CHANCE that something may happen. If the chance that you lose comes up, you want to COMPLETELY make sure that you lost it. If you lost it, then you basically wasted an entire year of your life. You might as well have stayed home and started at the hole in the wall the whole time.

BUT, if there's a chance there was a mistake lead to the reason you didn't win, you'd check out that possibility to the fullest extent wouldn't you? Otherwise, the next four years you had planned doing would no longer exist, instead you'll have to rework your whole life around, and never get that year out of your life back. I mean, to want something so much that you'd dedicate a portion of your life to get it, only to not get it because of some bad luck that was out of your hands would really really really suck. YOU should be the one who ultimately decide your own fate, not because of a miniscule error.

So imagine YOU were Gore, would you say, "Hey I have a chance to fight this, but forget it, I spent a whole year working on this, a few more weeks would just be too much."
 

Bryan

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From Gore's Perspective:

All he can see is total darkness. He can't hear the American people begging him to concede either. He smells something rotten also, but it's not the smell of defeat. This isn't over... not until he pulls his head out of his ass.
 

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I think the danger is, that if he fights this too hard he'll come across as a sore loser and will hence lose any chance he might have of being a serious candidate for the next election.

However, if he were to give up now (or a few weeks ago), he would, in effect be taking the moral high ground and might have a better chance next time round.

Just an outsiders take on things...
 

GoldenBear

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<< However, if he were to give up now (or a few weeks ago), he would, in effect be taking the moral high ground and might have a better chance next time round. >>

Why would his chances be any better?
 

Russ

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<< How many people here have spent a whole year of their lives dedicating it toward just one thing? >>



A year? He's been groomed for it since the day he was born. Now, a 50 year life's ambition is dead.

Russ, NCNE
 

Zucchini

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polls are varied. I've seen one that shows 80% demo support the fight and 20% repubs obviously don't. So fight on gore!
 

GoldenBear

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<< Now, a 50 year life's ambition is dead. >>

You don't consider running for the most prestigiuos position in the US is not an ambitious goal?
 

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His chances would be better because people wouldn't in four years time view him as a sore loser and thus be less inclined to vote for him. American?s (and of course other nationalities) can be a fickle bunch of voters.
 

Russ

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<< You don't consider running for the most prestigiuos position in the US is not an ambitious goal? >>



GoldenBear,

You appear to be confused. As soon as I figure out what you're trying to say with that convoluted sentence, I'll get back to you.

Russ, NCNE
 

Deeko

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<< He can't hear the American people begging him to concede either. >>


Umm...you mean he can't hear the Republicans begging him to concede, and he can here the Democrats that want him to win.
 

GoldenBear

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<< You appear to be confused. As soon as I figure out what you're trying to say with that convoluted sentence, I'll get back to you. >>

Let me break it apart for you, it might make it easier:

&quot;You don't consider&quot;

That means, &quot;In your opinion..&quot;

&quot;running&quot;

Not running as in a 400m race, but &quot;running&quot; as in a presidential race. Still with me?

&quot;for the most prestigiuos position in the US &quot;

That would be the &quot;president&quot;.

&quot;is not an ambitious goal?&quot;

Is not an ambitious goal?
 

jobert

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>>A year? He's been groomed for it since the day he was born. Now, a 50 year life's ambition is dead.<<

Not yet, it isn't.

He has one of the world's smoothest lawyers.
Now I understand how Microsoft lost.

There are several possible ways in which
he can concoct the necessary votes.
Not likely, but well within the realm of possibility.

 

Zucchini

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Bush= go away! your endangering my tenuous and questionable lead. Damnit i'll call myself president elect, daddy said so!
Gore = what??
 

Russ

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GoldenBear,

You become even more confused. I said that it was his lifelong ambition. You responded with the following nonsensical, double negative sentence:



<< You don't consider running for the most prestigiuos position in the US is not an ambitious goal? >>



So, let me clarify. What the hell are you talking about? I'm sure you must be trying make some kind of point. But, since I didn't say anything similar to your strange response, perhaps even you don't know what that point is.

Russ, NCNE
 

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Gores perspective, hmmmm, I can understand what has been said, but many men have been in a similar situation and bowed out gracefully only to come back 2,4, or more years later to win by a huge margin and part of the reason was that they were &quot;Gentlemen&quot; about losing! The numbers came in and that was that, there was no quiveling about it, the one and only count was final whatever the numbers were and no matter if it was 1 vote different or 1000. No, I think this is now beyond that, it seems he is &quot;hell driven&quot; it's like he is saying, &quot;it's my destiny and people get out of my way&quot;.
  • I don't have a huge problem with the man, he's just making it very hard to like him.....why, well, he's been on TV twice now in 2 days. Both times he has stated that ALL VOTES MUST BE COUNTED.....still, he has various suits trying to get various votes disqualified for one reason or another. Beyond that, the people are not so dumb! In several interviews and articles people asked about the votes wanted to know about past elections and why there were no fights in those? Literaly millions of votes go unconted for one reason or another, mechanical error, human error, or just plain mistakes by the voter in every election! Shall we then go and recount all of those also? There are and will be mistakes but a reasonable effort has been made on several occassions now and the results are the same so one can figure that they will remain that way, in many peoples view, a huge shift now, after 3 counts, would really open the eyes of Americans to fraud or cheating
  • He stated early on before this last recount that if he got what he wanted in his bidding with the FL Supremes, and he still lost, he would concede immeadiately! Well, regardless of what &quot;spin&quot; is put on it, go read the FL laws that pertain, and the Laws that were Amended for Mr. Gore. These laws were adhered to completely and to the letter.....if you don't believe that, I'm sorry, you are wrong, did you notice, they are not quiveling about that either....just the numbers and the fact that they say there should be yet another count! He says he gave the offer to Bush and they denied, well Mr. Gore, what exactly would you be doing if the shoe was on the other foot? That one is easy.....the exact same thing! Why go through another recount when you have won 3 according to the National Board? Bush is certified now and really has no reason to &quot;help&quot; Al out especially with all the acqusations flying around......what exactly would Bush have to gain by agreeing? NOTHING, and neither would Al Gore in the same situation!
  • Finally, one person mentioned polls concerning Americans feelings about whether mr. Gore should concede......the correct figures in the 3 major polls asking that question now stand at USA/CNN - 67% say Gore should Concede now, CBS - 69% say he should concede, and Harris, 74% say he should concede now. There are also several calls for him to quit in the House and Senate, and not all Republicans. And just tonight, some Donna Brazil lady who was screaming about the Black voters not being able to vote because of Police and Dogs, she to has now stated that it was all a PR lie! There are scandals abound here on BOTH sides, but, the people are saying end it, the laws Al wanted and got were followed, and now it's just time to end it like a Gentleman.