Friend's Accident

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

I don't give a fuck if they were hanging out the window while drinking beer. Brake checking someone is extremely dangerous...he's lucky he didn't kill someone. :|

Reckless behavior does not justify more reckless behavior.

You have no way to know that the guy was actually brake checking him...

Since the guy driving the Sentra isn't here to tell us his version, I have to assume the OP's story is accurate.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

I don't give a fuck if they were hanging out the window while drinking beer. Brake checking someone is extremely dangerous...he's lucky he didn't kill someone. :|

Reckless behavior does not justify more reckless behavior.

You have no way to know that the guy was actually brake checking him...

Since the guy driving the Sentra isn't here to tell us his version, I have to assume the OP's story is accurate.

I made it down to near 30 MPH on a 55 MPH road and even then I barely missed hitting him, then as soon as the accident happened (it's a long post, it all happened within seconds tho) he was gone. If I wasn't concerned about my friend I would've chased after him and punched his face in.
People driving recklessly, like weaving through traffic or just being stupid, doesn't bother me at all. The second someone brake checks me I've got every reason to bash their skull in; it serves no purpose other than causing a potential accident. If you think someone's driving like an idiot call the cops, he could have easily called the cops on all 4 of us, but instead he chose to nearly kill one.

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
good story.

Makes me want to chip my jetta

Do it, is it a 2.0T?

 

[MaxDepth]

Yay! Another prime example of someone under 25 who vehemently believes that his illegal actions are somehow more legal and less offensive than someone whom he feels is doing something illegal.

How would you know it was brake checking at 2 AM, doing 75 in a 55? Of course your judgment was unimpaired while you were in pursuit of two other speeding cars. I thought in the initial post that there were four lanes? Two lanes? How many lanes on your side of the road were there? If there was more than one lane, you should have been able to pass. If it was one lane, what the hell were you thinking?

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

I don't give a fuck if they were hanging out the window while drinking beer. Brake checking someone is extremely dangerous...he's lucky he didn't kill someone. :|

Reckless behavior does not justify more reckless behavior.

You have no way to know that the guy was actually brake checking him...

Since the guy driving the Sentra isn't here to tell us his version, I have to assume the OP's story is accurate.

I made it down to near 30 MPH on a 55 MPH road and even then I barely missed hitting him, then as soon as the accident happened (it's a long post, it all happened within seconds tho) he was gone. If I wasn't concerned about my friend I would've chased after him and punched his face in.
People driving recklessly, like weaving through traffic or just being stupid, doesn't bother me at all. The second someone brake checks me I've got every reason to bash their skull in; it serves no purpose other than causing a potential accident. If you think someone's driving like an idiot call the cops, he could have easily called the cops on all 4 of us, but instead he chose to nearly kill one.

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
good story.

Makes me want to chip my jetta

Do it, is it a 2.0T?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: MaxDepth
How would you know it was brake checking at 2 AM, doing 75 in a 55? Of course your judgment was unimpaired while you were in pursuit of two other speeding cars. I thought in the initial post that there were four lanes? Two lanes? How many lanes on your side of the road were there? If there was more than one lane, you should have been able to pass. If it was one lane, what the hell were you thinking?

My interpretation was 2 lanes in each direction. And it is rather strange that he hit the brakes instead of passing. He was only going ~15 over according to him, so he should have been able to change lanes without losing control of his car - that is, if he saw the Sentra at a reasonable distance (or rather, if he was paying attention).

 

[mrSHEiK124]

2 lanes per side, making it a 4 lane road.

There was a car to the left, I'm not sure if it was my roommate or another small car, but had I switched lanes I still would've had to brake hard and then my friend would've been surprised with a damn near stopped Sentra in front of him. At that split-second the smartest choice, at least to me, was brake hard and avoid hitting the Sentra, which I did. The Sentra was far off enough for me to be able to brake and miss hitting, but I generally don't like swerving around when I'm speeding; my friend tried it and he lost control of his car. The road wasn't wet, but it had rained earlier that night and I didn't want to take that risk. The median was still damp, and my friend ended up sliding across...

 

[skyking]

I doubt the sentra was brake checking, more like panic/freaked out by the passing. Some people react that way to the unexpected. I have a passenger with some of those folks.
The net effect for you is the same tho. Drivers are an unpredictalbe lot and can't be trusted

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: skyking
I doubt the sentra was brake checking, more like panic/freaked out by the passing. Some people react that way to the unexpected. I have a passenger with some of those folks.
The net effect for you is the same tho. Drivers are an unpredictalbe lot and can't be trusted

I didn't want to pull something unpredicted on my friend that could have ended in a 2 or even 3 car accident rather than, well, a his car accident.

I can never understand why most people's first reaction in any situation is brake hard. An 18 wheeler tried to lane change into me on I-75, I floored it and honked all the way through. There were cars behind me, braking hard might a. not have got me away from the truck in time, or b. caused an accident with other cars.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: skyking
I doubt the sentra was brake checking, more like panic/freaked out by the passing. Some people react that way to the unexpected. I have a passenger with some of those folks.
The net effect for you is the same tho. Drivers are an unpredictalbe lot and can't be trusted

And that's why you don't weave in and out of traffic. :thumbsup:

 

[warmodder]

OP, where abouts are you in florida? My roommate is from Miami and he's got a GTI. I know it's probably a long shot, but you never know--small world and all.

I would've leaned on the horn to get around the sentra, and let the guy behind me know there's a d-bag up ahead. But, I drive a jeep so more than likely I would've been the one to go horribly out of control. It's just good no one was hurt.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: skyking
I doubt the sentra was brake checking, more like panic/freaked out by the passing. Some people react that way to the unexpected. I have a passenger with some of those folks.
The net effect for you is the same tho. Drivers are an unpredictalbe lot and can't be trusted

And that's why you don't weave in and out of traffic. :thumbsup:

Or brake check people.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: skyking
I doubt the sentra was brake checking, more like panic/freaked out by the passing. Some people react that way to the unexpected. I have a passenger with some of those folks.
The net effect for you is the same tho. Drivers are an unpredictalbe lot and can't be trusted

And that's why you don't weave in and out of traffic. :thumbsup:

Or brake check people.

Never said it wasn't. But I'm talking about what ACTUALLY happened here, not what may have happened.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: skyking
I doubt the sentra was brake checking, more like panic/freaked out by the passing. Some people react that way to the unexpected. I have a passenger with some of those folks.
The net effect for you is the same tho. Drivers are an unpredictalbe lot and can't be trusted

And that's why you don't weave in and out of traffic. :thumbsup:

Or brake check people.

Never said it wasn't. But I'm talking about what ACTUALLY happened here, not what may have happened.

How do you KNOW the guy in the Sentra wasn't brake checking? I've seen dickheads do this to people. If they guy wasn't brake checking then why didn't he stop after he caused an accident?

 

[thepd7]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: skyking
I doubt the sentra was brake checking, more like panic/freaked out by the passing. Some people react that way to the unexpected. I have a passenger with some of those folks.
The net effect for you is the same tho. Drivers are an unpredictalbe lot and can't be trusted

And that's why you don't weave in and out of traffic. :thumbsup:

Or brake check people.

Never said it wasn't. But I'm talking about what ACTUALLY happened here, not what may have happened.

How do you KNOW the guy in the Sentra wasn't brake checking? I've seen dickheads do this to people. If they guy wasn't brake checking then why didn't he stop after he caused an accident?

he didn't cause an accident...the idiot that wrecked his car did. You can never blame the person in front for an accident...if the person following is following at a safe distance and speed then no accident will happen (unless the person in front backs up that is).

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: warmodder
OP, where abouts are you in florida? My roommate is from Miami and he's got a GTI. I know it's probably a long shot, but you never know--small world and all.

I would've leaned on the horn to get around the sentra, and let the guy behind me know there's a d-bag up ahead. But, I drive a jeep so more than likely I would've been the one to go horribly out of control. It's just good no one was hurt.

Heh, I live in Tampa.

At the time, the best solution seemed like braking to avoid hitting him, I didn't want to swerve around something that was moving a lot slower than I was. I could've been the one that lost control and ended up with a totaled car.

The weird thing about this all, is that the three of us were talking about cars over dinner, when my friend brought up how badly he wanted to sell the Galant because he could afford a better car now and his transmission was acting weird (known issue with early 00 Mitsubishi automatics I guess). Also, the day before, both of his front window motors had gone bad and the windows had fallen all the way into the door. If either of them were up they would've shattered upon impact with the tree and who knows what kind of injuries they might have caused.

 

[InflatableBuddha]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: skyking
I doubt the sentra was brake checking, more like panic/freaked out by the passing. Some people react that way to the unexpected. I have a passenger with some of those folks.
The net effect for you is the same tho. Drivers are an unpredictalbe lot and can't be trusted

And that's why you don't weave in and out of traffic. :thumbsup:

Especially on a wet road, at high speeds.

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
The road wasn't wet, but it had rained earlier that night...

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: skyking
I doubt the sentra was brake checking, more like panic/freaked out by the passing. Some people react that way to the unexpected. I have a passenger with some of those folks.
The net effect for you is the same tho. Drivers are an unpredictalbe lot and can't be trusted

And that's why you don't weave in and out of traffic. :thumbsup:

Or brake check people.

Never said it wasn't. But I'm talking about what ACTUALLY happened here, not what may have happened.

How do you KNOW the guy in the Sentra wasn't brake checking? I've seen dickheads do this to people. If they guy wasn't brake checking then why didn't he stop after he caused an accident?

I don't know. Which is why I said it may have happened. You have your panties all up in a wad over something that may or may not have even happened, but you don't seem to care much about what DID happen.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: skyking
I doubt the sentra was brake checking, more like panic/freaked out by the passing. Some people react that way to the unexpected. I have a passenger with some of those folks.
The net effect for you is the same tho. Drivers are an unpredictalbe lot and can't be trusted

And that's why you don't weave in and out of traffic. :thumbsup:

Or brake check people.

Never said it wasn't. But I'm talking about what ACTUALLY happened here, not what may have happened.

How do you KNOW the guy in the Sentra wasn't brake checking? I've seen dickheads do this to people. If they guy wasn't brake checking then why didn't he stop after he caused an accident?

I don't know. Which is why I said it may have happened. You have your panties all up in a wad over something that may or may not have even happened, but you don't seem to care much about what DID happen.

A guy who wasn't racing went in a ditch. Probably because he overreacted to the actions of the person who caused the accident (who also happened to drive off).

Oh, and I'm not wearing any panties.

 

[Sketcher]

Most everyone does something really stupid that confident or not they shouldn't do. Hopefully, the lesson is learned before others' lives are affected. In this case no one was hurt, but your comments further in this thread don't lend well to mature behavior.

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
The second someone brake checks me I've got every reason to bash their skull in; it serves no purpose other than causing a potential accident. If you think someone's driving like an idiot call the cops, he could have easily called the cops on all 4 of us, but instead he chose to nearly kill one.

"I've got every reason to bash their skull in"; now that's some juvenile reasoning for you.

"instead he chose to nearly kill one."; and you chose to be stupid on a level that makes brake checking look like bumper cars. debate much?

"If you think someone's driving like an idiot call the cops"; Pics showing plate, car, wrecker signs and detail in this thread are enough to have your incident report reviewed. In fact, the Florida authorities might well consider it bragging that you got off with a "Weather" judgement. In the least they certainly won't like hearing that all of you lied to them.

You sure there's only one lesson to learn here?

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: Sketcher
Most everyone does something really stupid that confident or not they shouldn't do. Hopefully, the lesson is learned before others' lives are affected. In this case no one was hurt, but your comments further in this thread don't lend well to mature behavior.

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
The second someone brake checks me I've got every reason to bash their skull in; it serves no purpose other than causing a potential accident. If you think someone's driving like an idiot call the cops, he could have easily called the cops on all 4 of us, but instead he chose to nearly kill one.

"I've got every reason to bash their skull in"; now that's some juvenile reasoning for you.

"instead he chose to nearly kill one."; and you chose to be stupid on a level that makes brake checking look like bumper cars. debate much?

"If you think someone's driving like an idiot call the cops"; Pics showing plate, car, wrecker signs and detail in this thread are enough to have your incident report reviewed. In fact, the Florida authorities might well consider it bragging that you got off with a "Weather" judgement. In the least they certainly won't like hearing that all of you lied to them.

You sure there's only one lesson to learn here?

Alright Mr. Vigilante. The incident report was written as it was because his car DID swerve off the road due to weather, I pulled over because I know him and was driving home with him. He was in the car, alone, and the cops really didn't care much because there were no injuries and only his car was damaged. I did not brag about getting away with a weather judgement. We told the cops I braked hard to avoid the Sentra, and he swerved to avoid me and lost control. His tires were worn out too, I'm sure that didn't help him, and the cops only concern was whether or not there was any alcohol involved. The flashed a light in his eyes, asked us if we were drinking, and left it at that.

By the way, had you READ the OP you'd know that at that point me and him were done fooling around and were cruising 15 miles over the speed limit, my friend did mention he was driving too fast for wet weather. I guess the cops figured he already had a totaled car to deal with and thankfully no injuries or drinking involved.

You really think you'll make anything better by telling the Florida authorities? He ended up buying a Volvo instead of the 3.5 Altima Coupe he wanted because he didn't trust himself behind the wheel of something fast, and he also wanted to drive around in a safe car. We've both stopped driving like hormone raged jackasses, well, save for my roommate, and I do think we learned our lesson.

 

[TuxDave]

Here's why I'm not sharing my beer with you. Why does it have to take a near death experience before people realize that they shouldn't drive like idiots? Why do I have to be potentially at risk for another person to "learn their lesson"?

And lastly, now that you are a better person, what are you going to do about it? Are you going to just let your roommate continue driving like a maniac or are you going to wait and gamble that he lives the next time he gets into a near death experience?

 

[Sketcher]

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124

Originally posted by: Sketcher
Most everyone does something really stupid that confident or not they shouldn't do. Hopefully, the lesson is learned before others' lives are affected. In this case no one was hurt, but your comments further in this thread don't lend well to mature behavior.

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
The second someone brake checks me I've got every reason to bash their skull in; it serves no purpose other than causing a potential accident. If you think someone's driving like an idiot call the cops, he could have easily called the cops on all 4 of us, but instead he chose to nearly kill one.

"I've got every reason to bash their skull in"; now that's some juvenile reasoning for you.

"instead he chose to nearly kill one."; and you chose to be stupid on a level that makes brake checking look like bumper cars. debate much?

"If you think someone's driving like an idiot call the cops"; Pics showing plate, car, wrecker signs and detail in this thread are enough to have your incident report reviewed. In fact, the Florida authorities might well consider it bragging that you got off with a "Weather" judgement. In the least they certainly won't like hearing that all of you lied to them.

You sure there's only one lesson to learn here?

Alright Mr. Vigilante. The incident report was written as it was because his car DID swerve off the road due to weather, I pulled over because I know him and was driving home with him. He was in the car, alone, and the cops really didn't care much because there were no injuries and only his car was damaged. I did not brag about getting away with a weather judgement. We told the cops I braked hard to avoid the Sentra, and he swerved to avoid me and lost control. His tires were worn out too, I'm sure that didn't help him, and the cops only concern was whether or not there was any alcohol involved. The flashed a light in his eyes, asked us if we were drinking, and left it at that.

By the way, had you READ the OP you'd know that at that point me and him were done fooling around and were cruising 15 miles over the speed limit, my friend did mention he was driving too fast for wet weather. I guess the cops figured he already had a totaled car to deal with and thankfully no injuries or drinking involved.

You really think you'll make anything better by telling the Florida authorities? He ended up buying a Volvo instead of the 3.5 Altima Coupe he wanted because he didn't trust himself behind the wheel of something fast, and he also wanted to drive around in a safe car. We've both stopped driving like hormone raged jackasses, well, save for my roommate, and I do think we learned our lesson.

I did read your OP and had you slowed down (pun intended) and read my post I actually state that I'm referring to your comments further in the thread. In the OP you show us a glimpse of recenly earned maturity and in subsequent posts you provide an in-your-face barrage of reasons why psych 101 should be a pre-requisite of drivers Ed.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: CycloWizard
You're only laughing because you're illiterate.

Im laughing because I'm picturing you boiling in rage over there, wherever you are. Veins popping out, steam coming out of your ears and all that.

Yeah dude is pissed he is stuck riding a bike. Probably slamming his keyboard and shit thinking 'oh oh oh, I know I could take him if I saw him. I am bike rider, hear me roar!'

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Aikouka
Well, for one thing, brake checking is not legal as it's considered reckless driving. Someone may be driving like an idiot, but you don't need to be making it worse.

I'll stop for lights when they change if I can stop (which is the point). If you can't stop in a proper manner when the light changes to yellow, then you're not supposed to stop. That's why the yellow light exists in the first place. Unfortunately, some people think yellow means, "speed up and keep going." I've had people with me in the car that said, "why'd you stop at the light?" "Uhh because it turned yellow and I could stop?"

Personally, I prefer getting from A to B safely rather than trying to be some bad-ass speeding like I'm Vin Diesel.

Brake checks are hard to prove and if you do it right the first time your tailgater will back off 9 times out of 10. Most that do this don't brake long enough to make it scary to anyone but old women and dorks.

If you have stopped while the light was still yellow something is wrong.

 

[alkemyst]

Personally I think those that try to dictate 'road laws' are more endangering than those speeding.

I have seen people dart to the left lane when they see someone passing in it to slow them down and then block them until the passing car ditches them. Meanwhile other motorists are scrabbling left and right not knowing what either car are doing.


I have seen people pace the on ramp/merge lane not allowing a car on because they feel they were driving too fast.


There is a lot of this, creeping off a red light...over stopping for a red light...people expect others to drive a certain way and causes a ton of confusion.

One of the most dangerous speeds is actually 10mph below the limit/flow of traffic, one of the safest is 10mph more.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: rh71
4) All it took for me to stop running yellow/red lights was a camera-ticket. They'll get all of us!

Why did it even take that? Did you really think you were so much more important than everyone else on the road that they should all wait for you when they have a green light? People like you guys suck at life.

First, running a red light doesn't necessarily mean others had to wait for me to get through. I never blatantly ran a red one - it was just trying to make it before it turned red and I wasn't always fortunate. I'm 100% sure nobody had to "wait" for me. And I'm 100% sure I will never T-bone someone by barely missing a yellow. Built-in delay FTW. Not that it's an excuse. Assuming 80mph thru an intersection is a bit much... over-exaggeration anyone?

And guess what? I used to tailgate too. As long as I got away with it unscathed, I didn't think it was a big deal. Young age / inexperience / aggressiveness had something to do with it too. But again, I've learned that it doesn't pay.

Still, things like that aren't exactly playing with fire... you know, nothing like trying to beat a train through a crossing. The actual question should be is my time much more important than a life. Learn to differentiate and get it right. I'm gonna have to start laughing at you if you claim trying to clear a yellow is endangering other people's lives. Real world much?

One last thing - high-horse people have ignore lists. True story.