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There are two sides to every story, however in either one he's probably fvcked, as he should be.

His punch was obviously anger related, since he could have walked away. Playing the 'self-defense card' after choosing to escalate a fight with a girl by punching her is typical of a sissy girl-beater.
 
Originally posted by: jjsole
There are two sides to every story, however in either one he's probably fvcked, as he should be.

His punch was obviously anger related, since he could have walked away. Playing the 'self-defense card' after choosing to escalate a fight with a girl by punching her is typical of a sissy girl-beater.
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Yeah, because a girl that already put a bleeding gash in your mother-fvcking face is no threat at all, right? Granted, I don't think I have it in me to actually punch a girl in the face, but your friend was completely justified in knocking her to the ground.
 
Playing the 'self-defense card' after choosing to escalate a fight with a girl by punching her is typical of a sissy girl-beater.
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You are a spectacular example of idiocy. Did you read the original post? HE didn't escalate anything, she attacked him and drew blood badly enough to need stiches, and threw the first punch. Who caused her to jump into violence in the first place I don't know, he just said they were arguing about money and it got really heated, but anything past words was started solely by her.

Playing the "girls can do whatever they want to guys and it's completely unreasonable for them to fight back" card is typical of a clueless retard who's simply saying whatever he feels is PC and safe.
 
all depends on how the police handle it. My brother was knee dropped in the balls by his (for some reason not ex) wife, so he put a wrist lock on her to stop her from pounding on his head and ended up getting in trouble. another one of the many rights unfairly given to women :thumbsdown:
 
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Playing the 'self-defense card' after choosing to escalate a fight with a girl by punching her is typical of a sissy girl-beater.
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You are a spectacular example of idiocy. Did you read the original post? HE didn't escalate anything, she attacked him and drew blood badly enough to need stiches, and threw the first punch. Who caused her to jump into violence in the first place I don't know, he just said they were arguing about money and it got really heated, but anything past words was started solely by her.

Playing the "girls can do whatever they want to guys and it's completely unreasonable for them to fight back" card is typical of a clueless retard who's simply saying whatever he feels is PC and safe.
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What does he want, a hero's welcome?

Noone is condoning what she did - but she's a girl...he had a choice to not retaliate and he chose to pummel her. I don't buy the part that it's 'self-defense.' If it was a guy, he absolutely did the right thing. But it wasn't a guy and he simply could have shoved her away and called the cops himself if it was that bad.
 
Originally posted by: jjsole
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Playing the 'self-defense card' after choosing to escalate a fight with a girl by punching her is typical of a sissy girl-beater.
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You are a spectacular example of idiocy. Did you read the original post? HE didn't escalate anything, she attacked him and drew blood badly enough to need stiches, and threw the first punch. Who caused her to jump into violence in the first place I don't know, he just said they were arguing about money and it got really heated, but anything past words was started solely by her.

Playing the "girls can do whatever they want to guys and it's completely unreasonable for them to fight back" card is typical of a clueless retard who's simply saying whatever he feels is PC and safe.
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What does he want, a hero's welcome?

Noone is condoning what she did - but she's a girl...he had a choice to not retaliate and he chose to pummel her. I don't buy the part that it's 'self-defense.' If it was a guy, he absolutely did the right thing. But it wasn't a guy and he simply could have shoved her away and called the cops himself if it was that bad.
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Even just pushing her away may have goten him in trouble.

I find it strange that charges where not layed right away.

 
But it wasn't a guy and he simply could have shoved her away and called the cops himself
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The fact that you think any girl (not just this girl, but apparently any girl) would instantly be cowed and defeated by a simple shove says volumes about your opinion of women.

If anything I'm very impressed by the number of women chiming in who, even if they don't agree with how he reacted specifically, they're not condemming him simply because he fought back. Most women are not so stuck in the past, it's nice to see.
 
Hrmmm if she says thats the way it happend i dont see how its his fault what so ever. It doesnt matter if its a girl or a guy...whoever attacks first.

I personally would have pushed her away, or wreslted her to the ground to make her calm the ****** down....

if she was grabbing for a knife...maybe
 
I find it strange that charges where not layed right away.
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I do as well, it's the one part of this that doesn't make any sense to me. Usually they ask right away if you want to press charges, don't they? When they told him to go home another cop was still talking to her in her apartment, and they told him they'd be in touch very soon, and not to go anywhere. My hope is that they simply decide against charging either of them.
 
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Its easy to say "wrestle her to the ground" when posting on a message board. Not so easy when she's coming at your like a rabid spider monkey while blood is gushing out of your forehead.
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I never said that. Wrestling her to the ground would certainly have been *one* way to approach it, but that depends on the circumstances. We don't know that she was coming at him "like a rabid spider monkey". The OP was told that he tried, and failed, to "take a swing at him" after she whacked him with a spoon. We don't know how big the spoon was. If it was a little piece of silverware, it would have been a freak thing for him to get an injury requiring stitches. If she was swinging a heavy ladle, that could hurt. Regardless, it was not a knife. Hitting her hard enough to break her nose wasn't probably the most appropriate response.

The safest course of action (legally) would have been to quickly remove himself from her reach and phone 911. The one initiating the phone call has a certain advantage, particularly when he's the only one who has been injured.
 
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
I find it strange that charges where not layed right away.
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I do as well, it's the one part of this that doesn't make any sense to me. Usually they ask right away if you want to press charges, don't they? When they told him to go home another cop was still talking to her in her apartment, and they told him they'd be in touch very soon, and not to go anywhere. My hope is that they simply decide against charging either of them.
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He can consider himself very luck if that hapens. Let us know when you find out.
 
Originally posted by: SirStev0
I meant more on a legal standpoint. She was being the aggressor, used a weapon, started the fight, and apparently from what she said prompted the response in order to get the guy in trouble. If it were two guys, the guy who acted like the girl did would be the one in the most trouble legally. Does that mean the girl is the one who should get the most punishment.

Sorry for the mix-up I could see where you got your response from how I worded the question.
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I'm sorry that I misunderstood your post, I guess I've just seen so many of these threads where the subject of equal rights is misused that I jumped to conclusions, I apologize.

From a legal standpoint, I think that she initiated the violence and the guy should have brought charges against her for it. His choosing to punch her in the face was a bad decision IMO because it complicates the issue for him legally. If he could have just walked away then he would have been golden in court, but now she can choose to bring charges against him and his self-defense argument may or may not hold up. A broken nose is a pretty violent injury, there are going to be medical bills involved, the jury or court will be able to take the physical size difference into consideration and their opinion as to whether or not he really was in fear of his physical safety is up to their interpretation. I know it's not the sort of things you think about when you're in a heated situation, but from a legal standpoint, I think he would have been a lot better off to have walked away right to the police and filed charges to get back at her.

 
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: ryan256
She attacked first, with a weapon, with intent to hurt and harm.
He defended himself.
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disagree. Since it's not some random person on the street, i'm sure there was build up to the "attack." It wasn't random and, come on, he probably did something to warrant a spoon to his face. But, that aside, there was probably time for him to walk out and tell her to cool off.

It just doesn't add up - if I was walking down the street and some crazy lady came at me with a knife, well, I'd kick the sh1t out of her because it was random and my instinct is to preserve my own life. but for a girlfriend to attack you - there's more to the story than we're hearing...
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Legally I don't think it matters if it was a girlfriend or random person off the street. An attack with a weapon is an attack with a weapon. The law makes no distinction as to the attacker.
 
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
But it wasn't a guy and he simply could have shoved her away and called the cops himself
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The fact that you think any girl (not just this girl, but apparently any girl) would instantly be cowed and defeated by a simple shove says volumes about your opinion of women.

If anything I'm very impressed by the number of women chiming in who, even if they don't agree with how he reacted specifically, they're not condemming him simply because he fought back. Most women are not so stuck in the past, it's nice to see.
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Your story was 'his side'. Personally I believe that alone instantly requires some 'adlibbing' by the reader before concluding what really happened. 😉 In other words I wouldn't believe 100% his side, nor her side (nor your side, which is 110% his side.)

Given that, he punched a girl. If he can prove it was justified, good for him and the blood will help, but if so I'd love to get his lawyer's number. 😉

But since domestic violence is so common, and the guy generally gets the rap - punching her was probably one of the stupidest things he's done in his life.

I hope it works out for him tho, both sound like they're probably psychos with serious anger issues. 😛
 
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