Friend overdosed next to me...

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NuroMancer

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Nov 8, 2004
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I totally agree. I was driving my GF home about 2 weeks ago when a car about 75 feet infront of us nailed a pedestrian. After getting out and dealing with the situation, I realized that my cpr and first aid is so out of date, I went and schedualed a renewal course.

I do have a question tho, I was at a dive shop last week and noticed they have a contraption that your supposed to use when breathing into their lungs, it appears to only allow air/liquids etc one way? Anyone know about these?
 

LordMaul

Lifer
Nov 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: NuroMancer
I totally agree. I was driving my GF home about 2 weeks ago when a car about 75 feet infront of us nailed a pedestrian. After getting out and dealing with the situation, I realized that my cpr and first aid is so out of date, I went and schedualed a renewal course.

I do have a question tho, I was at a dive shop last week and noticed they have a contraption that your supposed to use when breathing into their lungs, it appears to only allow air/liquids etc one way? Anyone know about these?

I've seen those, usually kept by people who work around conditions where performing CPR is more likely than your average job (e.g., athletic trainers). I doubt buying one would be useful unless you carried it with you 24/7, which I guess only you can decide whether or not it's worth it.

Either way you can still get the job done, the mouthpiece only seems to make it less 'risky' (largely in that you don't have to kiss anyone, especially if it's also a dude like in my case. You'll be terrified as you realize, after the adrenaline starts wearing off, that the slime dripping off your mouth isn't sweat, and it isn't from you ;)).
 

Gooberlx2

Lifer
May 4, 2001
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Good outcome (considering), good job. I can only imagine. :beer:

Of course the police immediately suspected me of having a part in it and getting through that was less than fun
Can you take us through it? I'm very curious as to how that whole process went.
 

NuroMancer

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Nov 8, 2004
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Originally posted by: LordMaul
Originally posted by: NuroMancer
I totally agree. I was driving my GF home about 2 weeks ago when a car about 75 feet infront of us nailed a pedestrian. After getting out and dealing with the situation, I realized that my cpr and first aid is so out of date, I went and schedualed a renewal course.

I do have a question tho, I was at a dive shop last week and noticed they have a contraption that your supposed to use when breathing into their lungs, it appears to only allow air/liquids etc one way? Anyone know about these?

I've seen those, usually kept by people who work around conditions where performing CPR is more likely than your average job (e.g., athletic trainers). I doubt buying one would be useful unless you carried it with you 24/7, which I guess only you can decide whether or not it's worth it.

Either way you can still get the job done, the mouthpiece only seems to make it less 'risky' (largely in that you don't have to kiss anyone, especially if it's also a dude like in my case. You'll be terrified as you realize, after the adrenaline starts wearing off, that the slime dripping off your mouth isn't sweat, and it isn't from you ;)).

Haha, thanks :)

Yah, I was just considering getting one to put in the car.
 

Linflas

Lifer
Jan 30, 2001
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Good job, hope your friend gets straight after this. That Narcan stuff is pretty amazing. I got to see it up close and personal last year when they OD'd my wife on pain killers in the ER. I saw her stop breathing and got the nurse and next thing I knew I was in the middle of an episode of ER as they brought her back. It was the single most terrifying thing that has happened in my life.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Nicely done. I lost several good friends to overdose during the 60's and 70's Narcan was a wonderful invention. It has saved the lives of thousands of people who accidentally overdosed.
 

LordMaul

Lifer
Nov 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Good outcome (considering), good job. I can only imagine. :beer:

Of course the police immediately suspected me of having a part in it and getting through that was less than fun
Can you take us through it? I'm very curious as to how that whole process went.

Well, the paramedics and the police arrived at about the same time. The police seemed to approach first and pulled me off my friend, asking to talk to me about it and constantly leading me further and further away from the scene, possibly to reduce my distraction.

There were at least three cops that showed up initially, and they first asked me what happened. I have some experience as far as drugs go, and saw what I thought to be an OD on a CNS depressant, probably either morphine or heroin. I told them as much, and told them to get some Narcan in him ASAP. Immediately they thought I was part of his ODing and accused me of helping him, using drugs with him, taking evidence from the scene, etc. etc. I told them the story again and ignored their accusations.

One of them took down all the information I had about my friend and left. The other kept trying to push me into the backseat of the other cop's car to "keep me warm." I didn't want to sit there but he kept telling me more and more forcefully to stay in the car. I went for my cellphone and he looked like he was about to tackle me...flashlights in my eyes and on my hands and whatnot immediately.

A few minutes later, a close relative of mine who happens to be on the local police force (and a superior of everyone on scene) showed up and they pretty much scattered. Probably a good thing he showed up and took my word or things might've turned out differently.

Because of the syringe in the car, my friend is being charged with possessing drug paraphernalia. Having syringes in IL is not illegal as they can be bought OTC, but apparently having them in connection with drug use is a prosecutable offense.

I will admit, it's one of the first times in my life that I really, really wanted to punch a cop. Standing there, charged with adrenaline and my clothes soaked and filthy, in the rain while my possibly-dead friend lies on the cold, wet pavement, the cop pipes up with, "An overdose, huh? Well if you're so sure, you were using too, right? What did you do with the rest of the drugs? You wouldn't know so much about this if you didn't have a part in it, now, would you? You removed a bunch of evidence from the scene, huh? Where did you put it? You on drugs right now?"

*growl*

 

Tiamat

Lifer
Nov 25, 2003
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wow, good job on your part, you definitely played a key role in keeping him alive. He owes ya big, and hopefully he has learned his lesson and will make full use of his second-chance.
 

Vonkhan

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Feb 27, 2003
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Originally posted by: LordMaul
"An overdose, huh? Well if you're so sure, you were using too, right? What did you do with the rest of the drugs? You wouldn't know so much about this if you didn't have a part in it, now, would you? You removed a bunch of evidence from the scene, huh? Where did you put it? You on drugs right now?"

:|

:beer: for not letting those ****s get to you + saving your friend's life
 

Gooberlx2

Lifer
May 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: LordMaul
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Good outcome (considering), good job. I can only imagine. :beer:

Of course the police immediately suspected me of having a part in it and getting through that was less than fun
Can you take us through it? I'm very curious as to how that whole process went.

Well, the paramedics and the police arrived at about the same time. The police seemed to approach first and pulled me off my friend, asking to talk to me about it and constantly leading me further and further away from the scene, possibly to reduce my distraction.

There were at least three cops that showed up initially, and they first asked me what happened. I have some experience as far as drugs go, and saw what I thought to be an OD on a CNS depressant, probably either morphine or heroin. I told them as much, and told them to get some Narcan in him ASAP. Immediately they thought I was part of his ODing and accused me of helping him, using drugs with him, taking evidence from the scene, etc. etc. I told them the story again and ignored their accusations.

One of them took down all the information I had about my friend and left. The other kept trying to push me into the backseat of the other cop's car to "keep me warm." I didn't want to sit there but he kept telling me more and more forcefully to stay in the car. I went for my cellphone and he looked like he was about to tackle me...flashlights in my eyes and on my hands and whatnot immediately.

A few minutes later, a close relative of mine who happens to be on the local police force (and a superior of everyone on scene) showed up and they pretty much scattered. Probably a good thing he showed up and took my word or things might've turned out differently.

Because of the syringe in the car, my friend is being charged with possessing drug paraphernalia. Having syringes in IL is not illegal as they can be bought OTC, but apparently having them in connection with drug use is a prosecutable offense.

I will admit, it's one of the first times in my life that I really, really wanted to punch a cop. Standing there, charged with adrenaline and my clothes soaked and filthy, in the rain while my possibly-dead friend lies on the cold, wet pavement, the cop pipes up with, "An overdose, huh? Well if you're so sure, you were using too, right? What did you do with the rest of the drugs? You wouldn't know so much about this if you didn't have a part in it, now, would you? You removed a bunch of evidence from the scene, huh? Where did you put it? You on drugs right now?"

*growl*

Ugh. That does suck. Thanks for the story though. And, again, good job keeping your head...and cool.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: Vonkhan
Originally posted by: LordMaul
"An overdose, huh? Well if you're so sure, you were using too, right? What did you do with the rest of the drugs? You wouldn't know so much about this if you didn't have a part in it, now, would you? You removed a bunch of evidence from the scene, huh? Where did you put it? You on drugs right now?"

:|

:beer: for not letting those ****s get to you + saving your friend's life

holy crap. I'm surprised they didn't taze you :p
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: LordMaul
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Good outcome (considering), good job. I can only imagine. :beer:

Of course the police immediately suspected me of having a part in it and getting through that was less than fun
Can you take us through it? I'm very curious as to how that whole process went.

Well, the paramedics and the police arrived at about the same time. The police seemed to approach first and pulled me off my friend, asking to talk to me about it and constantly leading me further and further away from the scene, possibly to reduce my distraction.

There were at least three cops that showed up initially, and they first asked me what happened. I have some experience as far as drugs go, and saw what I thought to be an OD on a CNS depressant, probably either morphine or heroin. I told them as much, and told them to get some Narcan in him ASAP. Immediately they thought I was part of his ODing and accused me of helping him, using drugs with him, taking evidence from the scene, etc. etc. I told them the story again and ignored their accusations.

One of them took down all the information I had about my friend and left. The other kept trying to push me into the backseat of the other cop's car to "keep me warm." I didn't want to sit there but he kept telling me more and more forcefully to stay in the car. I went for my cellphone and he looked like he was about to tackle me...flashlights in my eyes and on my hands and whatnot immediately.

A few minutes later, a close relative of mine who happens to be on the local police force (and a superior of everyone on scene) showed up and they pretty much scattered. Probably a good thing he showed up and took my word or things might've turned out differently.

Because of the syringe in the car, my friend is being charged with possessing drug paraphernalia. Having syringes in IL is not illegal as they can be bought OTC, but apparently having them in connection with drug use is a prosecutable offense.

I will admit, it's one of the first times in my life that I really, really wanted to punch a cop. Standing there, charged with adrenaline and my clothes soaked and filthy, in the rain while my possibly-dead friend lies on the cold, wet pavement, the cop pipes up with, "An overdose, huh? Well if you're so sure, you were using too, right? What did you do with the rest of the drugs? You wouldn't know so much about this if you didn't have a part in it, now, would you? You removed a bunch of evidence from the scene, huh? Where did you put it? You on drugs right now?"

*growl*

Ugh. That does suck. Thanks for the story though. And, again, good job keeping your head...and cool.

Cops can be such pricks sometimes...BUT, in their defense, they ARE used to being lied to, especially when it comes to drugs...so it MIGHT be natural for them to assume you might have been involved somehow.
Glad it worked out ok for you...
 

FallenHero

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Jan 2, 2006
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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: LordMaul
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Good outcome (considering), good job. I can only imagine. :beer:

Of course the police immediately suspected me of having a part in it and getting through that was less than fun
Can you take us through it? I'm very curious as to how that whole process went.

Well, the paramedics and the police arrived at about the same time. The police seemed to approach first and pulled me off my friend, asking to talk to me about it and constantly leading me further and further away from the scene, possibly to reduce my distraction.

There were at least three cops that showed up initially, and they first asked me what happened. I have some experience as far as drugs go, and saw what I thought to be an OD on a CNS depressant, probably either morphine or heroin. I told them as much, and told them to get some Narcan in him ASAP. Immediately they thought I was part of his ODing and accused me of helping him, using drugs with him, taking evidence from the scene, etc. etc. I told them the story again and ignored their accusations.

One of them took down all the information I had about my friend and left. The other kept trying to push me into the backseat of the other cop's car to "keep me warm." I didn't want to sit there but he kept telling me more and more forcefully to stay in the car. I went for my cellphone and he looked like he was about to tackle me...flashlights in my eyes and on my hands and whatnot immediately.

A few minutes later, a close relative of mine who happens to be on the local police force (and a superior of everyone on scene) showed up and they pretty much scattered. Probably a good thing he showed up and took my word or things might've turned out differently.

Because of the syringe in the car, my friend is being charged with possessing drug paraphernalia. Having syringes in IL is not illegal as they can be bought OTC, but apparently having them in connection with drug use is a prosecutable offense.

I will admit, it's one of the first times in my life that I really, really wanted to punch a cop. Standing there, charged with adrenaline and my clothes soaked and filthy, in the rain while my possibly-dead friend lies on the cold, wet pavement, the cop pipes up with, "An overdose, huh? Well if you're so sure, you were using too, right? What did you do with the rest of the drugs? You wouldn't know so much about this if you didn't have a part in it, now, would you? You removed a bunch of evidence from the scene, huh? Where did you put it? You on drugs right now?"

*growl*

Ugh. That does suck. Thanks for the story though. And, again, good job keeping your head...and cool.

Cops can be such pricks sometimes...BUT, in their defense, they ARE used to being lied to, especially when it comes to drugs...so it MIGHT be natural for them to assume you might have been involved somehow.
Glad it worked out ok for you...

Generally speaking, we are lied to when it comes to drugs...non-druggies usually (Id say close to 95% of the time) do not hang out with druggies. I can see their stance on the issue and them pushing for more information, as I would have done the same thing. Glad you got out of it and nothing came of it.

As for the charge, it was used for drug use, so it is drug paraphernalia. If there was still heroin left in the syringe, its a class 4 felony (at least). Heroin is tough to quit...i wish you and your friend the best.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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What usually happens though is the 'drug using' friend will not share this fact with a non-drug using friend. Marijauna use is extremely high in almost all demographics...as you get into the more wealth cocaine use goes up.
 

FallenHero

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Jan 2, 2006
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
What usually happens though is the 'drug using' friend will not share this fact with a non-drug using friend. Marijauna use is extremely high in almost all demographics...as you get into the more wealth cocaine use goes up.

Oh I agree, much of the time its a surprise. Heroin is a poor mans drug, and cocaine isnt as high society as it once was (maybe the pure stuff, but crack and that yellow cocaine crap can be had for cheap)
 

MrPickins

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May 24, 2003
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Your friend was going to shoot up and still expect to act normal during your lunch together?

Had to be a cry for help.
 
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Originally posted by: LordMaul
(not a single person walking around near us stopped to help)

My grandpa used to always say, better to play it safe than the end up getting punk'd and have it show up on youtube.