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Friend got a job offer from NSA??!!

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Originally posted by: Squisher
Nice knowing you Casawi.

Dibs on your monitor.

btw - they have ways of making you talk.
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Yep, they sure do.
They make you watch cspan while you salute the flag and the national anthem plays in a perpetual loop.

I cracked in 10 secs.
 
Haha, I read the Thread Title before the Author, and I came in here cause a friend of mine just got a offer from the NSA and wanted my address.

Till I see it is you and the friends in question are indeed the same person.

How the hell did he get that? I wanted to get deep in that game...

Oh well, maybe I'll be able to get on a project that requires a security clearance, eventually. I think you have to list who've you've lived with in the past and such, so they'll be calling for you again!
 
Originally posted by: Scouzer
I don't think anyone I know got a phone call for my Secret clearance.

In fact, I don't think they checked anything on the application.
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hah...for mine, they went to every place I had ever lived, and randomly knocked on my neighbors doors to ask about me. They also called every single reference that I gave them, and asked them questions. It was pretty intense...got a psych eval in baltimore and the aforementioned polygraph which I failed.

Guessing I was going after TS clearance. The job was pretty cool, called the "red team". Prety much their goal is to break into computer networks of companies that contract for the government (with their knowledge of course).
 
I'm going to try and intern there next summer. Should be fun...

But yea, one of my teacher's in middle school had a brother who was a secret service agent for Clinton. They went back to his neighborhood that he moved away from when he was 8 and interviewed the neighbors. Pretty intense if you ask me, but better safe than sorry.
 
Originally posted by: Bibble
I'm going to try and intern there next summer. Should be fun...

But yea, one of my teacher's in middle school had a brother who was a secret service agent for Clinton. They went back to his neighborhood that he moved away from when he was 8 and interviewed the neighbors. Pretty intense if you ask me, but better safe than sorry.
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word of advice, get your application in as soon as possible. i hope by next summer you mean summer of 09, as its probably way too late to do anything for this summer.

the sooner you get your application in, the sooner you can begin the process of clearance. They pretty much told me that the first people who get their application in/get initially cleared get the job (pretty much only get an interview/go for clearance if they are wiling to hiring you, as its a ridiculously expensive process).
 
A friend of mine also got an offer from the NSA and I got a visit from a retired FBI agent. The questions were all pretty simple and he was a nice guy. My favorite thing he said was after asking about foreign contacts, "I'm basically trying to find out if she's a communist." Seems like he was stuck in the 50's, but I guess that's what happens when you spend your whole career chasing communists.
 
As with others here, she also failed the polygraph twice because they didn't believe that she had never done drugs. I know for a fact she was telling the truth, so the whole thing makes me question some of these security procedures. She ended up being spared the 8 hour in-depth poly after getting another offer.
 
Originally posted by: duragezic
Haha, I read the Thread Title before the Author, and I came in here cause a friend of mine just got a offer from the NSA and wanted my address.

Till I see it is you and the friends in question are indeed the same person.

How the hell did he get that? I wanted to get deep in that game...

Oh well, maybe I'll be able to get on a project that requires a security clearance, eventually. I think you have to list who've you've lived with in the past and such, so they'll be calling for you again!
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I will be a citizen by then, prolly working for CTU with Jack Bauer somewhere in Middle East..lol, but this time I will beat his lil ass down.
I don't know how he got that job, he is a smart dude tho.
 
I have an oppurtunity to do a co-op with the NSA. I don't think I will because I don't feel like filling out the long ass application and going through all the trouble.
 
Man, I really don't want no damn agent in my house asking me questions. List time I talk to an agent (a little after 9/11 when they called out for special registration crap), was not a good experience. The guy treated me like shit, very disrespectful, he talked to me like I killed his dog or something. So I suspect these people will come in my house, and just dis me. I will call the cops on them ....lol
 
Now let me ask this; Do I have the right not talk to them? since they won't have any paperwork that shows I must?
 
Originally posted by: Casawi
I will call the cops on them ....lol
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They are above the cops.
Have fun 🙂

You can refuse to talk to them, but it makes it seem like you have something to hide and looks bad on your friend.


Seriously, just talk to the guy, IF they even show up.
 
Originally posted by: Casawi
He msg me today asking for my address, then of course I had to ask why? He said he got a job offer from NSA and was filling out security forms that required him to list all foreign nationals he is in contact with.
He needed my name, address, status... all of this shit, like employer name and address .
I just told him to put down student, because I don't want to give out all that information.
Prolly next thing I know, guys in suits knocking on my door after dinner ...lol
Security is good, but this isn't the warmest feeling.
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Standard procedure for security slearance.
 
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: Casawi
I will call the cops on them ....lol
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They are above the cops.
Have fun 🙂

You can refuse to talk to them, but it makes it seem like you have something to hide and looks bad on your friend.


Seriously, just talk to the guy, IF they even show up.
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Oh no I will, I am just curious.
 
Originally posted by: ExPFC Wintergreen
As with others here, she also failed the polygraph twice because they didn't believe that she had never done drugs. I know for a fact she was telling the truth, so the whole thing makes me question some of these security procedures. She ended up being spared the 8 hour in-depth poly after getting another offer.
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The polygraph is notoriously unreliable. The point of the exercise is to get the subject to admit past transgressions, not necessarily catch them in lies. In other words, the polygraph intimidates them into telling the truth. There's a reason why the polygraph isn't admissible in the legal system.
 
Originally posted by: Scouzer
I don't think anyone I know got a phone call for my Secret clearance.

In fact, I don't think they checked anything on the application.
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Well gee, that makes me feel a whole lot safer about our national security. 😛
 
Originally posted by: AndrewR
Originally posted by: ExPFC Wintergreen
As with others here, she also failed the polygraph twice because they didn't believe that she had never done drugs. I know for a fact she was telling the truth, so the whole thing makes me question some of these security procedures. She ended up being spared the 8 hour in-depth poly after getting another offer.
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The polygraph is notoriously unreliable. The point of the exercise is to get the subject to admit past transgressions, not necessarily catch them in lies. In other words, the polygraph intimidates them into telling the truth. There's a reason why the polygraph isn't admissible in the legal system.
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Yeah, definitely. The problem here was that they were trying to intimidate her into admitting that she'd done drugs, but she's never done any. So it was pretty much a no-win.
 
Originally posted by: AndrewR
Originally posted by: Deeko
I got my SCI last fall. I went through the hell of an SSBI. Plus somewhere along the line they got the mistaken impression that I had a hardcore drug problem (I did not), so I got the super-polygraph, 8 hours strapped to the chair telling some guy in a suit EVERYTHING you've ever done wrong or considered doing wrong. Awesome.

Trust me, worse for your friend than you.
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SSBI/SCI clearance does not require a polygraph. Certain agencies require a poly, however.
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SCI definitely does....everyone here gets one, and its with different agencies, not just one.
 
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