Fresno State Professor Throws Some Shade on Barbara Bush

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bshole

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I will be amazed if there is an actual attempt to fire the prof in question. The university would be begging to make this a far bigger issue if they tried because they'd be looking at a nice, well publicized, court trial which they would most likely lose along with dealing with all the attendant bad publicity for the uni. I suspect that within a week of or so nobody will even remember her name.

Mind you, that presupposes that she actually has tenured status at the uni because if she doesn't, she's pretty much fucked.

About the lawsuit you are correct. Marquette is in front of the Supreme Court in a lawsuit over disciplining a conservative professor. Pretty huge case here.

It all started in fall 2014, when McAdams wrote a post on his Marquette Warrior blog accusing philosophy teaching assistant Cheryl Abbate of stifling a class discussion for political reasons.

Abbate had stopped a student from arguing against gay marriage as part of a broader topic discussion. The student confronted her outside the classroom, and recorded their conversation.

During that conversation, Abbate told the student she would not allow him to say "homophobic" things that could offend any gay students in the class.

McAdams accused Abbate of “using a tactic typical among liberals,” in which opinions they disagree with “are not merely wrong, and are not to be argued against on their merits, but are deemed ‘offensive’ and need to be shut up.”

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...university-before-state-supreme-co/512500002/
 

bshole

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I'm referring to the one where she called Bush a racist and said she raised a war criminal. What did I miss?

In another tweet, the professor wrote: “I’m happy the witch is dead. can’t wait for the rest of her family to fall to their demise the way 1.5 million iraqis have. byyyeeeeeee.”

The professor taunted those attacking her, sharing a contact number that was that of Arizona State University’s suicide hotline, and said she was a tenured professor who makes $100,000 a year.

“I will never be fired,” she tweeted.

Check out my earlier post about the conservative Marquette Professor that is in front of the Supreme Court right now. I would like your take on both of these cases.... compare and contrast....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...i-will-never-be-fired/?utm_term=.dd44971ce9ee

PS. I think some serious Arab hate is going to come to Obama over Syria/Libya as is some serious Arab hate for Trump over Syria/Yemen. Americans have no appreciation for the amount of catastrophe they are spreading. .
 
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She is absolute garbage and shouldnt be attacking Barbara Bush who was a classy lady. She is a typical leftist. She is of palestinian origin and biased against Bush because of the Iraq war. A complete hypocrite who should be let go from the university.
 
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She is absolute garbage and shouldnt be attacking Barbara Bush who was a classy lady. She is a typical leftist. She is of palestinian origin and biased against Bush because of the Iraq war. A complete hypocrite who should be let go from the university.
She was born in Chicago you fucking cartoon. But at least you’re consistent in attacking speech when it involves a Muslim. Good on ya.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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With or without tenure a prof can be kicked. Source- Married to a tenured professor.

The difference between her and those not tenured is that there needs to be cause for termination or sanction. The cartoon illustrates that one is not immune from consequences and this could be seen as cause.
How many tenured profs do you know of who have been fired for anything?
 

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Before passing judgement, perhaps some other information, some other sources should be perused. She posted what she said was her phone number. That number was Arizona State's 24-hour emergency hotline. This is not something that a rational person does.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/29598/situation-involving-fresno-state-professor-gets-ryan-saavedra

She is an unhappy person. She probably has a mental illness because her behavior is well outside of the norm. Having said that, the Internet gives everyone the potential to reach a far larger audience than was ever possible prior. I mention this because if not for Twitter, very few people would have known this woman even existed nor would they have known what she said. She's a nobody that desired to be a somebody. She's gotten her 15 minutes.

If the University wants to fire her let them. I don't really give a shit either way. If there is a crime that is associated with posting the phone number she did in that manner I am absolutely A-OK with her being prosecuted for that.

Regardless, if the university chooses to keep her on I would hope that their admissions fall dramatically.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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How many tenured profs do you know of who have been fired for anything?

Not many but usually tenured profs don't give a reason to be fired. Getting tenure is not an easy thing and if a prof has shown the slightest sign of being trouble they don't get moved up. Naturally there are exceptions.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Not many but usually tenured profs don't give a reason to be fired. Getting tenure is not an easy thing and if a prof has shown the slightest sign of being trouble they don't get moved up. Naturally there are exceptions.
Having worked at and attended a multitude of universities, I've witnessed much more egregious behavior go totally unpunished. Of course we are talking about Cali.
 

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Having worked at and attended a multitude of universities, I've witnessed much more egregious behavior go totally unpunished. Of course we are talking about Cali.

That might be a factor. My wife works in the sciences and everyone is pretty intelligent and chill.
 
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I didn't follow whatever you are asking about. On your attempt to change the subject.
Actually it’s completely parallel to this topic. The people calling for this woman’s firing were pretty much the same ones to label the calls for her firing over her comments facist. My curiousity was genuine given your original position here as you made no comment in that thread.
 

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Actually it’s completely parallel to this topic. The people calling for this woman’s firing were pretty much the same ones to label the calls for her firing over her comments facist. My curiousity was genuine given your original position here as you made no comment in that thread.


I never read "That Thread" so I don't know what you are asking about.
 
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