French national election is likely to reject Le Pen

[JSt0rm]

Blue max is pro-Russian

 

[Commodus]

France voters reject far right and elect centrist Macron.

whats the far right in France? same as in the US?
greedy anti-abortion Religious nuts?

The irony is that some in the US would consider them too liberal. They softened their positions on same sex marriage and abortion not too long ago. The main thing they have in common: they're really, really scared of anyone who isn't white and Christian.

 

[UNCjigga]

The irony is that some in the US would consider them too liberal. They softened their positions on same sex marriage and abortion not too long ago. The main thing they have in common: they're really, really scared of anyone who isn't white and Christian.

The real irony is that Macron is an unknown, an investment banker and by no means a typical French liberal. I guess the alt righters hate him because they see another globalist in charge, but make no mistake--France continues to lean further and further right.

 

[JEDI]

The real irony is that Macron is an unknown, an investment banker and by no means a typical French liberal. I guess the alt righters hate him because they see another globalist in charge, but make no mistake--France continues to lean further and further right.

wtf?
the US shifted far right with congress + pres occupied by religious zealots looking to destroy the country because of short sightedness.

and now u say France is also shifting right despite electing a centrist as Pres?

Is Germany the last bastion of sanity?

 

[Commodus]

wtf?
the US shifted far right with congress + pres occupied by religious zealots looking to destroy the country because of short sightedness.

and now u say France is also shifting right despite electing a centrist as Pres?

Is Germany the last bastion of sanity?

To be fair, a centrist or center-right politician in France would probably be on the left in the US. Many Americans forget that their country is actually to the right of most of the planet.

 

[lopri]

I just saw his wife for the first time after his victory speech. Holy cow I could not help but be amazed at how classy she looked at her age.

 

[flexy]

Compared to some other Western European nations, France has and always had a high percentage of non-whites.
The good thing: No one gives a shit about it. ALL of them, no matter what colour and what background, I assume, are simply proud to be French.

In the same way as ONCE IN THE PAST, people in the US had been proud to be "American" - whereas "American" once actually stood for diversity and a broad ethnic background (actually what imho is the definition of "America), and NOT THE LIES AND DELUSION that is washed into people's brains in the US now that "American" means that you need to be a hick from TN.

I am glad that the cheap attempts of the Right to take advantage of sporadic terrorist attacks to sway people's views towards nationalism hasn't worked.
And, by the way, swaying people into Nationalism never turned into something good, EVER. But: Violence, war, death, hate.

The NAZI in France was an anti-European b*** whose dissent and outright dislike/hate....eg. against the EU and in particular Germany...was more than obvious. What the fuck was her goal? Leaving the EU and re-instating the old "France vs. Germany" hate like it's 1933? She's nuts! What should that lead to, but, if not in the coming years but possibly within, say, some decades, new war and hostilities in Europe? WTF about this is supposed to be good or beneficial in any some way? I am glad they (French people) still have some sense in their brains.

Nationalism (not: healthy, normal patriotism) or how some call it nowadays "Nativism" is an outdated concept that "achieves" and never had achieved anything, NOTHING. ZERO. NULL. and it has no place in our time. So fuck her and great that she lost.

 

[lopri]

It was not acceptable to a majority of French citizens to turn the clock back on the project of enlightenment which gave birth to the "Western Civilization". I have had a hard time understanding why alt-righters believe in the opposite. The ideas dating back to that era, e.g. equality, liberty, progress, tolerance, etc. are the very essence of the "Western Civilization" in which the world has found refuge since then. To my mind throwing those ideals and following a reactionary tact (e.g. blood & soil) is a path that is clearly un-western, regardless of whether that is desirable or not.

It is fitting that the country where modernity arose defends and reaffirms it centuries later. Vive la France!

 

[woolfe9998]

Le Pen and others in the Euro far right being skewered in elections by association with Trump:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/07/opinions/curse-of-trump-example-opinion-ghitis/index.html

Evidently his disapproval rating in France is 82%.

 

[sandorski]

It was not acceptable to a majority of French citizens to turn the clock back on the project of enlightenment which gave birth to the "Western Civilization". I have had a hard time understanding why alt-righters believe in the opposite. The ideas dating back to that era, e.g. equality, liberty, progress, tolerance, etc. are the very essence of the "Western Civilization" in which the world has found refuge since then. To my mind throwing those ideals and following a reactionary tact (e.g. blood & soil) is a path that is clearly un-western, regardless of whether that is desirable or not.

It is fitting that the country where modernity arose defends and reaffirms it centuries later. Vive la France!

The Alt-Right is mad as hell and just wants to break things. How that turns out they haven't really thought about.

It's like their biggest fear, Globalism. That's the big scary boogie man conjured into being by Liberals, Corporatists, and George Soros all hellbent on some vague conspiracy to something something and take the guns and something something other things that are icky. To them it's some evil Master Plan. What they don't realize is that it is simply the Reality we are in, due to technology. Any 2 people anywhere on Earth can communicate instantly and in realtime. Travel to anywhere on Earth is now faster than what it took to cross the country(US) just a century ago, much faster in fact. Go to the Produce section of your Grocery store and see where it comes from, 20+ per cent comes from out of country and far across the globe. If you live on the East coast nearly all the rest of it probably comes from California. All that Produce, even from California, would not be available a century ago.

Globalism isn't a Conspiracy, it is a Reality and the only way the World will continue to progress into the future.

 

[flexy]

It is a reality and one that FOR SURE is well-known to these elites of a type of D. Trump.
Heck, Trump OWES his wealth to the fact that globalism even exists.

The "fear of globalism" is a ruse/fake fear that it intentionally spread by exactly those Elites who take advantage of it, since it's the low-information folks who are most susceptible to emotions like "nationalism" and because of their distaste for "the global Elite" since THEY THINK their misery is because of them. (This may, in some parts, even be true...but then for god's sake..you don't elect these same types to solve the problem)

The "alt-Right", who is so against globalism, in the US has now elected and is governed by an admin that is made from the likes of EXXON execs and other ultra-rich global elitists with TRUMP THE MOST OBVIOUS ONE. It's like cattle voting that people should eat more burgers.

 

[Grooveriding]

For the alt-right, the notion of globalism conspiracies is an evolution of the neo-nazi Jewish globalist banking cartel/politics conspiracy. It's another one of these vapid blurry views that isn't defined by any solid facts beyond some hazy gut feeling of the people they hate being evil and at fault via some conspiracy for their own sorry lives they've created for themselves. A couple 'notable' nuts promote it on Twitter with images of a frog or hand signs and a few loony long hairs make youtube videos, then toss in some dog whistles from politicians who have similar twisted bents. Social media and youtube have become the modern age version of the white supremacists pamphlets and mailing lists of the past.

They don't really have any idea of exactly where they stand. When they speak it's just vague conspiracy theories and innuendo. The only thing they are sure of is nothing is their fault, they're pants shittingly afraid and they hate a lot of people.

 

[Pens1566]

So the centrist won. Because all the non-nutters (left and right) got behind him against LePen. Take notes. The difference here is that the GOP all lined up behind the guy who belittled them for over a year. Party over country.

Vive le France. Maybe they'll ask for the Statue of Liberty back now?

 

[Meghan54]

Vive le France. Maybe they'll ask for the Statue of Liberty back now?

More likely repossess it.

 

[Indus]

The real irony is that Macron is an unknown, an investment banker and by no means a typical French liberal. I guess the alt righters hate him because they see another globalist in charge, but make no mistake--France continues to lean further and further right.

Except he worked at an investment bank for 8 months and said this isn't for him.

Haven't you worked a job that you hated and quit?

Does that define you for the rest of your life?

 

[HomerJS]

Everything Trump touches turns to shit, including the United States

 

[cytg111]

Have you seen this, doubling down on the prior invitation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIBNqP9nZM8

Sorry guys, you dont want em' then Macron will take them off your hands for free!

 

[Ajay]

To be fair, a centrist or center-right politician in France would probably be on the left in the US. Many Americans forget that their country is actually to the right of most of the planet Western Civilization.

FIFY and then I agree.

 

[Ajay]

Have you seen this, doubling down on the prior invitation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIBNqP9nZM8

Sorry guys, you dont want em' then Macron will take them off your hands for free!

Effing awesome! Wish I was an energy researcher. Been to France, and love it. I don't know if I could leave my family, but my wife and I have talked about retiring to So. France rather than Florida

 

[Triloby]

To be fair, a centrist or center-right politician in France would probably be on the left in the US. Many Americans forget that their country is actually to the right of most of the planet.

Many Americans have no clue how European politics are done. The so-called far right in Europe is not the same thing as America's far right. Europe's far right would be equivalent to the center-right platform of the U.S. Democrats. The GOP over here would almost be considered fascists or extreme nationalists in Europe. As much flak as Bernie Sanders gets here, he would fit in nicely with most left-leaning parties in Europe. With the exception of Bernie Sanders and probably the Green Party, there is literally no left-leaning political party here in the U.S.

 

[biostud]

More likely repossess it.

They already have the original, but it is a bit smaller than the copy they gave the US.

My sister who lives in Paris with her family, just got french citizenship last year, to amongst other things to vote against le pen.

Her take on the french political situation is:
1. Political corruption. The two major parties have had a lot of scandals and corruption, and neither seems willing to change that.
2. Unemployment and lack of growth has been a major problem for decades, and neither left og right has managed to solve these problems.
3. Lack of flexiblity on the job market, resulting in high unemployment for young people.
4. Lack of investments in areas with lots of unemployment, resulting in ghetto areas.

Le pen offered a protectionist solution blaming all the bad things going on, on EU, globalization and muslims.

While Macron wants to reform the political landscape, reform the public sector and want EU to do more about the negative consequences arising from globalization.

These are imho the right way to go, but it will be extremely difficult to do. And it is going to be really interesting to see how the election for the parliament turns out later this year.

 

[Commodus]

Just to reinforce how looney bin the "#MacronLeaks" camp is:

Apparently one of its champions seriously argued (on InfoWars, of course, but that's a Twitter link) that Macron's wife seduced him to let the government mind control him through drugs.

So before you start chanting the refrains of "Deep State! Globalist conspiracy!" that your alt-right masters told you to sing, remember... if you do, you're on the same level as that guy.

 

[cytg111]

Just to reinforce how looney bin the "#MacronLeaks" camp is:

Apparently one of its champions seriously argued (on InfoWars, of course, but that's a Twitter link) that Macron's wife seduced him to let the government mind control him through drugs.

So before you start chanting the refrains of "Deep State! Globalist conspiracy!" that your alt-right masters told you to sing, remember... if you do, you're on the same level as that guy.

You almost had me with mindcontrol... throw in aliens and i am sold.