French missles used in Baghdad attack

heartsurgeon

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According to the Sun (UK), recently produced French missles were used in the
missle attack upon the al-Rashid hotel...

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smashp

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Point please?


The gasoline that drove the truck pulling the missle launcher came from Haliburton.

the Car was a nisson.

Yet again, Your point.
 

daniel1113

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Originally posted by: smashp
Point please?


The gasoline that drove the truck pulling the missle launcher came from Haliburton.

the Car was a nisson.

Yet again, Your point.

A military weapon is a bit different than a consumer good...
 

freegeeks

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The rockets were fired from a home-made launcher disguised as a power generator. Six hit the hotel, two hit the ground, six more did not explode and 11 failed to launch.

LOL

yeah, must be very modern and efficient weaponry when the majority did not even explode

The Polish troops also claimed to have found recently build French rockets in the Iraqi dessert. The truth was that the Roland 3 missile was last produced in 1993.

btw: your source (the sun) is the equivalent of ink on garbage. They are known for their hatred against the French.

 

tnitsuj

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They were actually rockets. And so what?

The ICE task force is currently investigation almost a dozen US companies who sold weapons to Iraq during the Embargo, some as recently as late 2002?

OH MY GODDDD WE ARE OUT TO GET OURSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!


BTW: ICE = the new Immigrations and Customs Enforcement Service under the DHS
 

Doboji

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"Point please?

The gasoline that drove the truck pulling the missle launcher came from Haliburton.
the Car was a nisson.
Yet again, Your point. "


Here I'll help... recently produced french missles were used to kill Americans.... how were these missles acquired?... If france sold a terrorist group some missles wouldn't you say that was a problem? Buying a Nissan is just a whee bit different than buying a missle... or maybe you're too stupid to know that?

-Max
 

tnitsuj

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Originally posted by: Doboji
"Point please?

The gasoline that drove the truck pulling the missle launcher came from Haliburton.
the Car was a nisson.
Yet again, Your point. "


Here I'll help... recently produced french missles were used to kill Americans.... how were these missles acquired?... If france sold a terrorist group some missles wouldn't you say that was a problem? Buying a Nissan is just a whee bit different than buying a missle... or maybe you're too stupid to know that?

-Max

What exactly is France? Do you mean the government of France? I am sure you can find many many business and underworld types in France that well sell you all the weapons you want.

Same in the United States?

You know where most of the small arms and ammunition along with some of the explosives used by Palestinian militant groups comes from.....Israeli government and private stores. Yes...greedy Israelis selll weapons to people who will then use them against Israelis. Does that mean the Israeli government is out to get itself??

You really have no point, other than to once again bash the French.
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: freegeeks
The rockets were fired from a home-made launcher disguised as a power generator. Six hit the hotel, two hit the ground, six more did not explode and 11 failed to launch.

LOL

yeah, must be very modern and efficient weaponry when the majority did not even explode

The Polish troops also claimed to have found French rockets in the Iraqi dessert. The truth was that the Roland 3 missile was last produced in 1993.

btw: your source (the sun) is the equivalent of ink on garbage. They are know for their hatred against the French.

Yeah I was gonna mention that... the Polish started up a flare of controversy over that until everyone realized the facts
 

freegeeks

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and in other news

The Taliban was using Stinger rockets given to them by the CIA against US warplanes

 

smashp

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Originally posted by: Doboji
"Point please?

The gasoline that drove the truck pulling the missle launcher came from Haliburton.
the Car was a nisson.
Yet again, Your point. "


Here I'll help... recently produced french missles were used to kill Americans.... how were these missles acquired?... If france sold a terrorist group some missles wouldn't you say that was a problem? Buying a Nissan is just a whee bit different than buying a missle... or maybe you're too stupid to know that?

-Max



so by your logic,

If I go and buy a colt .45 and kill someone, the victims family can sue COLT?

 

Doboji

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tnitsuj,

First off... when did we make the leap to Israel. But if we must... yes you're somewhat right... alot of weapons in the hands of Palestinians did in fact come from Israel... like tens of thousands of M-16s handed over as part of the 1993 Oslo Accords. In addition to weapons bought from greedy Israelis.... also many weapons are smuggled from Egypt and Jordan.

Anyway... I concede to your point... we don't know how the french missles got there... and it's very likely that it was some greedy frenchman, and not "THE FRENCH". I never meant to insinuate "THE FRENCH"... I meant to point out though that it's certainly worth looking into... and is hardly compareable to the posters example of the truck using gasoline.

-Max
 

VioletAura

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So what? It is no big secret that Iraq had bought weapons from France. Their Mirage fighter planes would have made that obviously clear. So they bought some rockets as well, big surprise there.
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This means nothing. If it did, the US would be responsible for civilian deaths in Palestine, when the IDF uses US built helicopters to fire rockets into crowded streets.
 

tnitsuj

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Originally posted by: Doboji
tnitsuj,

First off... when did we make the leap to Israel. But if we must... yes you're somewhat right... alot of weapons in the hands of Palestinians did in fact come from Israel... like tens of thousands of M-16s handed over as part of the 1993 Oslo Accords. In addition to weapons bought from greedy Israelis.... also many weapons are smuggled from Egypt and Jordan.

Anyway... I concede to your point... we don't know how the french missles got there... and it's very likely that it was some greedy frenchman, and not "THE FRENCH". I never meant to insinuate "THE FRENCH"... I meant to point out though that it's certainly worth looking into... and is hardly compareable to the posters example of the truck using gasoline.

-Max


You have no idea what you are talking about. We didn't hand any M-16's to the PA. The PA was equipped with AK-47's donated by Egypt and Jordan. The US also provided the PA with training and a lot of vehicles.

Thier is a clear deliniation in the weapons used by militants in the territories. AK-47's are used by PA police and other security services.

Militants tend to use M-16's because they can get ahold of them easily (smuggled in from Israel), and magazines and ammunition are cheaper than for AK's. They also like thier accuracy which is better for the type of sniping that goes on there.
 

Doboji

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No I know exactly what I'm talking about... tens of thousands of rifles were given to the PA as part of the Oslo Agreement in 1993... their purpose being for use by the PA security forces, and police. And why do you say "We"?... are you Israeli?...

-Max
 

tnitsuj

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Originally posted by: Doboji
No I know exactly what I'm talking about... tens of thousands of rifles were given to the PA as part of the Oslo Agreement in 1993... their purpose being for use by the PA security forces, and police. And why do you say "We"?... are you Israeli?...

-Max



You said M-16. It was actually AK-47's. Totally different sources. Important detail, especially when people are bashing supposedly French sourced weapons.
 

Witling

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And here the news sources will probably fail us. If there were unlaunched rockets, they'll probably be traceable. Dollars to doughnuts says they were sold to a national government or organization having the tacit backing of a national government, like the Mujah Hudeen, who we backed, in Afghanistan. Think we'll see any additional facts? I'd bet against it.
 
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Shouldn't you change your title to read 'Freedom missles', since we're obviously deep in the media-hype bs pit anyway?
 

BDawg

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Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: smashp
Point please?


The gasoline that drove the truck pulling the missle launcher came from Haliburton.

the Car was a nisson.

Yet again, Your point.

A military weapon is a bit different than a consumer good...

Is VX a military weapon? Wonder where they got that in the 80s.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
just like the ones the Poles found, right?

Yes, the ones found by the poles were made in france, just not the manufacture date was wrong in the first report.
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
just like the ones the Poles found, right?

Yes, the ones found by the poles were made in france, just not the manufacture date was wrong in the first report.

Yes, remember how everyone was saying how evil france was for selling rockets to saddam in 2003. Now its the same thing, officers are quoted as saying "the missiles looked quite new".

You guys can come up with whatever you want to bash France, but you'll excuse me if I don't fall for the same trick twice.