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French connection armed Saddam

The United States stood by for years as supposed allies helped its enemies obtain the world's most dangerous weapons, reveals Bill Gertz, defense and national security reporter for The Washington Times, in the new book "Treachery" (Crown Forum). In this excerpt, he details France's persistence in arming Saddam Hussein. New intelligence revealing how long France continued to supply and arm Saddam Hussein's regime infuriated U.S. officials as the nation prepared for military action against Iraq.

The intelligence reports showing French assistance to Saddam ongoing in the late winter of 2002 helped explain why France refused to deal harshly with Iraq and blocked U.S. moves at the United Nations.
"No wonder the French are opposing us," one U.S. intelligence official remarked after illegal sales to Iraq of military and dual-use parts, originating in France, were discovered early last year before the war began.


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French Apologists....UNITE!
 
WOW all this ( Still ) France hating over "Duel Use" parts and the such from the Washington times and the Like.

Still waiting for the OIL to Food "Truth" to come out.



Its funny How much we hate France now........


Especially compared to How much You and Believers of your Like and the Republican Party Dont Hate Saudi arabia even though their Government Actually finacially supported OBL and AL queada.
 
It's amazing that you stick up for them when they're defying the UN sactions that they themselves supported. Now we know why they supported them - it gave them a monopoly. Now it's a right wing conspiracy to expose France? Give me a break. The French behavior with respect to Iraq in the last decade or two is downright shady and unjustifiable, I don't care what your political persuasion is.
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Are the French becoming the new Jews? Blame everything on them?

No, I don't think so. France is just like any other government - it's prone to plenty of mistakes. However, it seems that many people think any criticism of France is 'French bashing'.
 
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Are the French becoming the new Jews? Blame everything on them?

No, I don't think so. France is just like any other government - it's prone to plenty of mistakes. However, it seems that many people think any criticism of France is 'French bashing'.


Uhhh, no. There's a difference between criticizing France and coming up with conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory and blaming America's failures on France. It reminds me of anti-semitism. Sorry. 😉
 
Strange...I think many people just don't want to see criticism of France at all...I'm not even talking about 'conspiracy theories' like this though.
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Are the French becoming the new Jews? Blame everything on them?

No, I don't think so. France is just like any other government - it's prone to plenty of mistakes. However, it seems that many people think any criticism of France is 'French bashing'.


Uhhh, no. There's a difference between criticizing France and coming up with conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory and blaming America's failures on France. It reminds me of anti-semitism. Sorry. 😉

like How All the Articles in Right Wing Rags fail to mention the Possible coruption on the United states side with the Oil for food Problems, and seem to only Point to france.

Like How All the Articles in Right Wing Rags fail to metion how Haliburton has a business relationship with Iran , and seem to only Point to france and their relation With Iraq.

they always metion Jacque Ch-Iraq but fail to remeber SADDonald Rumsfeld.
 
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Are the French becoming the new Jews? Blame everything on them?

No, I don't think so. France is just like any other government - it's prone to plenty of mistakes. However, it seems that many people think any criticism of France is 'French bashing'.

These same apologists refused to recognize the mistakes of Chirac last summer. While he and his Health Minister were in a nice air conditioned hotel room in Canada, 15,000+ grandparents died...any criticisms not directed toward Bush and his administration is "bashing" in their pathetic partisan eyes...and as I always say, they wonder why they do not control a single facet of government, though they claim to be so "mainstream" and "in-touch" with the American people...Edwards is right; there are two Americas--one with rational, autonomous thinkers and one with blinded sheep guided by the likes of Michael Moore and Mother Jones.
 
Originally posted by: smashp
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Are the French becoming the new Jews? Blame everything on them?

No, I don't think so. France is just like any other government - it's prone to plenty of mistakes. However, it seems that many people think any criticism of France is 'French bashing'.


Uhhh, no. There's a difference between criticizing France and coming up with conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory and blaming America's failures on France. It reminds me of anti-semitism. Sorry. 😉

like How All the Articles in Right Wing Rags fail to mention the Possible coruption on the United states side with the Oil for food Problems, and seem to only Point to france.

Like How All the Articles in Right Wing Rags fail to metion how Haliburton has a business relationship with Iran , and seem to only Point to france and their relation With Iraq.

they always metion Jacque Ch-Iraq but fail to remeber SADDonald Rumsfeld.

Does anyone else find his post ironical? Think about it while reviewing his previous post....talk about left-field. God bless the Electoral College.

 
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: smashp
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Are the French becoming the new Jews? Blame everything on them?

No, I don't think so. France is just like any other government - it's prone to plenty of mistakes. However, it seems that many people think any criticism of France is 'French bashing'.


Uhhh, no. There's a difference between criticizing France and coming up with conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory and blaming America's failures on France. It reminds me of anti-semitism. Sorry. 😉

like How All the Articles in Right Wing Rags fail to mention the Possible coruption on the United states side with the Oil for food Problems, and seem to only Point to france.

Like How All the Articles in Right Wing Rags fail to metion how Haliburton has a business relationship with Iran , and seem to only Point to france and their relation With Iraq.

they always metion Jacque Ch-Iraq but fail to remeber SADDonald Rumsfeld.

Does anyone else find his post ironical? Think about it while reviewing his previous post....talk about left-field. God bless the Electoral College.


oh point the irony out or you can actually address the comments.
 
This is no surprise and certainly not new news. Russia also had vast amount of economic interests in keeping a tryant in power.

But when you hear people talk about those two nations stance against the US before the invasion. It is rarely ever talked about because it would destroy the credibility of taking the highroad.

 
Originally posted by: smashp
WOW all this ( Still ) France hating over "Duel Use" parts and the such from the Washington times and the Like.

Still waiting for the OIL to Food "Truth" to come out.



Its funny How much we hate France now........


Especially compared to How much You and Believers of your Like and the Republican Party Dont Hate Saudi arabia even though their Government Actually finacially supported OBL and AL queada.


France has been stabbing America since we liberated them in WW2, nothings new. THey constantly vote against us, against Israel. They are always pro Arab. Heck a lot of the weapon systems in Iraq are french.

And we all know Chirac and Saddam were great friends.

 
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: smashp
WOW all this ( Still ) France hating over "Duel Use" parts and the such from the Washington times and the Like.

Still waiting for the OIL to Food "Truth" to come out.



Its funny How much we hate France now........


Especially compared to How much You and Believers of your Like and the Republican Party Dont Hate Saudi arabia even though their Government Actually finacially supported OBL and AL queada.


France has been stabbing America since we liberated them in WW2, nothings new. THey constantly vote against us, against Israel. They are always pro Arab. Heck a lot of the weapon systems in Iraq are french.

And we all know Chirac and Saddam were great friends.


It Isnt That Simple. Frances Largest Problem, To simplify things, is they actually fell they are the power they once were.
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: smashp
WOW all this ( Still ) France hating over "Duel Use" parts and the such from the Washington times and the Like.

Still waiting for the OIL to Food "Truth" to come out.



Its funny How much we hate France now........


Especially compared to How much You and Believers of your Like and the Republican Party Dont Hate Saudi arabia even though their Government Actually finacially supported OBL and AL queada.


France has been stabbing America since we liberated them in WW2, nothings new. THey constantly vote against us, against Israel. They are always pro Arab. Heck a lot of the weapon systems in Iraq are french.

And we all know Chirac and Saddam were great friends.

Great friends like Rumsfeld and Saddam?
 
I am mad at the french for supplying Saddam. But I also remembered that we did supply Saddam too in the past, with the chemical weapon, etc. I mean I don't want to be ignorant or anything, but isn't crying foul over french connection is like a wolf crying out another wolf? It isn't good to supply Saddam, unless it's coming from us....
 
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: smashp
WOW all this ( Still ) France hating over "Duel Use" parts and the such from the Washington times and the Like.

Still waiting for the OIL to Food "Truth" to come out.



Its funny How much we hate France now........


Especially compared to How much You and Believers of your Like and the Republican Party Dont Hate Saudi arabia even though their Government Actually finacially supported OBL and AL queada.


France has been stabbing America since we liberated them in WW2, nothings new. THey constantly vote against us, against Israel. They are always pro Arab. Heck a lot of the weapon systems in Iraq are french.

And we all know Chirac and Saddam were great friends.

Great friends like Rumsfeld and Saddam?


Rumsfeld shook hands with Saddam before the Kuwait war, before Saddam tried to kill Bush sr. and before Saddam tried to conceal the WMD's
 
Originally posted by: cpumaster
I mean I don't want to be ignorant or anything, but isn't crying foul over french connection is like a wolf crying out another wolf?

You might want to reword that, but yeah, you're right.

It isn't good to supply Saddam, unless it's coming from us....

That sums it up pretty well. It's ok for us to do it, but not france (Or anyone else for that matter).
 
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Originally posted by: cpumaster
I mean I don't want to be ignorant or anything, but isn't crying foul over french connection is like a wolf crying out another wolf?

You might want to reword that, but yeah, you're right.

It isn't good to supply Saddam, unless it's coming from us....

That sums it up pretty well. It's ok for us to do it, but not france (Or anyone else for that matter).


:laugh:
 
Originally posted by: cpumaster
I am mad at the french for supplying Saddam. But I also remembered that we did supply Saddam too in the past, with the chemical weapon, etc. I mean I don't want to be ignorant or anything, but isn't crying foul over french connection is like a wolf crying out another wolf? It isn't good to supply Saddam, unless it's coming from us....

Most of the so-called WMDs we supplied Iraq were actually meant for agricultural uses. France has been purported to be the largest single supplier of WMDs to Iraq. And if you look at the military equipment used about 99% of it was supplied by the Soviets.

 
Originally posted by: raildogg
Rumsfeld shook hands with Saddam before the Kuwait war, before Saddam tried to kill Bush sr. and before Saddam tried to conceal the WMD's

So? He was still an evil bastard back then. It's just that back then it suited us to support them against Iran. You know. Stop the Islamic revolution and all that.

Just because he hadn't shown hostility towards us back then, doesn't mean he wasn't the filthy little dictator he was when we invaded.
 
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