Freedom of speech in private places drawn into question

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Lifer
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Even though we may disagree with an opinion, we should at least support the persons right to say it.

People have the right to express said opinions, no one here tried to thwart that constitutional right. But on the flip side, other people have the right to tell those people to "Get lost, you backwards turd". This is what happened in the case of the council woman in San Antonio.

Any questions?
 

waggy

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People have the right to express said opinions, no one here tried to thwart that constitutional right. But on the flip side, other people have the right to tell those people to "Get lost, you backwards turd". This is what happened in the case of the council woman in San Antonio.

Any questions?

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Abraxas

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By asking the counsel woman to resign, groups are intimidating free speech.

As per the opening post,

By creating a thread complaining about her being asked to resign, you are intimidating free speech. Or something. Stop it.
 

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Lifer
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By asking the counsel woman to resign, groups are intimidating free speech.

She doesn't have to resign, there isn't a legal way to force her to resign that I can see (but I'm no attorney). She is merely feeling the social pressures of society, some of which include her constituents, and some of which are not. This sort of thing is exceedingly healthy for society as a whole and, frankly, this sort of social pressure often brings about as much change as comprehensive laws passed by Congress. It's fantastic, frankly.

So in no universe is that really being "intimidated". Especially considering the content of her opinion, which is vile and reprehensible. It's only intimidating in the tamest of ways.
 

shadow9d9

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By asking the counsel woman to resign, groups are intimidating free speech.

As per the opening post,

No, they aren't. There is no censorship here. Just a response to what she said.

You have no understanding of freedom of speech. She is allowed to say whatever she wants and she will then have to deal with the consequences.
 

Gintaras

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This council woman in San Antonio made some comments in a private area, to a select few people. Someone recorded the comments, then the comments were released to the news media.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...ay-rant-hits-high-acceleration-on-digisphere/

There were some protest, and she has been asked to resign her postion.

Then there are the Paula Deen comments about black people.

Why do certain groups feel the need to protest, or get angry, when it comes out what someone said in privacy.

If we are not free to express ourselves in private areas, or to friends, then where can we express ourselves at?

I feel that rather than supporting our rights, special interest groups are acting like a form of thought police. It no longer matters where you say something, or think something, or believe something. If the wrong people find out your beliefs, they are going to try and embarrass you.

When everyday on TV:

IF YOU SEE SOMETHING...SAY SOMETHING....
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING...SAY SOMETHING....
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING...SAY SOMETHING....
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING...SAY SOMETHING....
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING...SAY SOMETHING....
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING...SAY SOMETHING....
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING...SAY SOMETHING....
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING...SAY SOMETHING....
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING...SAY SOMETHING....
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING...SAY SOMETHING....
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING...SAY SOMETHING....
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING...SAY SOMETHING....


A lot of people won't be able to resist...Just like anyone one's else commercial...

"Human-Rats" do think that by giving one else, they'll survive...

Not so...

Try to read Stalin Era USSR History - "rats" were exterminated soon after they did "rat" someone out...
Ask any police detective, what do think about "rats" in a criminal world...

"Rats" are lowest cast of human beings - they don't survive much longer than those they did "rat-out"
 
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This is like an incorruptible free speech thread. Completely devoid of any understanding of what freedom of speech is. You guys need to stop waving the constitution around like it gives you some credibility and actually read/understand it. Otherwise you're just basically wiping your ass with it to try and make a point. And failing.
 

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I feel that I am debating a bunch of conservatives. Which is strange, because I am ultra conservative.

If I feel that I am debating conservatives, does that make me a liberal on this topic?
 

brycejones

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I feel that I am debating a bunch of conservatives. Which is strange, because I am ultra conservative.

If I feel that I am debating conservatives, does that make me a liberal on this topic?

No, you're just way off base on this topic.
 

sourn

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She said what she said and she had every right to say it. Just like others have to right to say what they say.

With that said I think the douche bag who recorded her in this meeting should have his balls kicked back up into his stomach.
 

Zebo

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Always be yourself and make no apologies for it wont have this problem.

If people don't like you, you wouldn't fake yourself into that position if people do you have nothing to worry about.
 
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shira

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Always be yourself and make no apologies for it wont have this problem.

If people don't like you, you wouldn't fake yourself into that position if people do you have nothing to worry about.

You're half right. Yes, you should be yourself. But if you espouse crazy beliefs, and even worse, act on them, don't be surprised if you create serious problems for yourself far beyond "people not liking you."

If you doubt what I'm saying here, just ask Major Nidal Hasan. He's totally comfortable with who he is and what he believes, and he "makes no apologies." You think he doesn't have problems?
 
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This is like an incorruptible free speech thread. Completely devoid of any understanding of what freedom of speech is. You guys need to stop waving the constitution around like it gives you some credibility and actually read/understand it. Otherwise you're just basically wiping your ass with it to try and make a point. And failing.

Wow. Was it necessary to attack me on an internet forum hiding behind your computer? You're a coward. I had nothing to do with this thread.
 

Zebo

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You're half right. Yes, you should be yourself. But if you espouse crazy beliefs, and even worse, act on them, don't be surprised if you create serious problems for yourself far beyond "people not liking you."

If you doubt what I'm saying here, just ask Major Nidal Hasan. He's totally comfortable with who he is and what he believes, and he "makes no apologies." You think he doesn't have problems?

Sure and if superiors would have listened to colleges complaints he never would have put in such a position let alone been able to purchase firearms.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1940011,00.html