Originally posted by: Plasdom
so what if you say you d/led it frm bit torrent?
I'd call you a piece of $hit thief.
Originally posted by: Marthisdil
Originally posted by: Plasdom
so what if you say you d/led it frm bit torrent?
I'd call you a piece of $hit thief.
you are the one handling the cases?
Originally posted by: Plasdom
so what if you say you d/led it frm bit torrent?
How about you go and do that ... then let us know how things work out for you.
a corporate copy is one with a serial number that needs no activation. Say a company has 500 computers and does not want to activate each one. They get a version of windows XP from MS which does not need activation.
9Software was selling COAs without its accompanying product for many months. Whenever I searched Pricewatch for XP Home, 9Software would always have a really low price, so I would investigate and it turned-out to be standalone COA.
I really want to do this because I bought XP Pro on pricegrabber.com and received a valid cd key, but an OBVIOUSLY FAKE cd.
The problem of this whole thing, it does not prevent MS files a lawsuit against you (it's a "stolen" good, by definition.) I don't think it ever happen, but never say never.
Riiiiight, like they're going to. They've been running the same thing in Britain for months and have had no issue with it. They want people to buy the OS, and want to shut the scammers down. I think even the "oh I'm so cool I wouldn't pay MS" people in here can appreciate the idea of shutting down people who are SELLING it illegally.
Yeah, nothing about this says a kinder, gentler M$
Before I switched over to XP, I used the "corporate" XP as a test platform.
After it was determined to be potentially "a real platform", as opposed to a very large Beta like many of the prior Win versions, I started the switch-over for any interested clients (myself included).
A couple of years later it happened that I needed to call MS and report what I thought was a lost or stolen XP install disk (this was on a machine that I had originally set-up).
Sure enough, it had been running with the "pirated" version and the MS verification team nearly crapped their pants. Turned out to be quite the phone call.
Nothing came of it and the machine got an O/S upgrade that day.
Yeah, but the entire thing of selling a coa without the software wasn't really illegal until the new law came into effect the first of this year, right? Or am I misinformed??
This is just MS being bullies, again. They hated the fact that they couldn't sell everyone at least a full oem copy, but didn't have the law on their side until just recently. The kicker is that the lame-o representative (from TX) that sponsored the rider bill that finally made it illegal to sell just coa's reportedly did it to keep people from pirating windows. Huh?? So does that make those of us that have the disk, and bought just a coa for our new computer (so we'd be legal!!) a bunch of pirates??
If so, give me my eye patch and parrot, and shiver me timbers, ya scurvy land lubbers!! :laugh:
This is just MS being bullies, again. They hated the fact that they couldn't sell everyone at least a full oem copy, but didn't have the law on their side until just recently. The kicker is that the lame-o representative (from TX) that sponsored the rider bill that finally made it illegal to sell just coa's reportedly did it to keep people from pirating windows. Huh?? So does that make those of us that have the disk, and bought just a coa for our new computer (so we'd be legal!!) a bunch of pirates??
If so, give me my eye patch and parrot, and shiver me timbers, ya scurvy land lubbers!! :laugh:
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there are lots of PC shops that openly sell illegal software in koreatown, and i'm sure it's the same in many other places. i couldn't care less if you pirate software for personal use, but it's a different story when you're turning a profit.
I whole-heartedly agree.
However, If I find a client that has been "evaluating" a piece of software for two years, they will get a nudge.
But if a person needs it and can't afford it, who am I to weed in his garden...
If not for the Pirate Jean Lafitte, we would all be vassals to some European power.
He hated being referred to as a pirate, much preferring the term Privateer.
Q.
What is the genuine Windows offer?
A.
Microsoft?s genuine Windows® offer is designed to help customers who unknowingly purchased counterfeit versions of Windows XP, by offering those who qualify a complimentary or $149 electronic license key for a genuine copy of Windows XP.
Q.
What are the details of the pilot genuine Windows offer?
A.
Beginning of May 4, 2005, Microsoft will pilot the genuine Windows offer in the United States for Windows XP Professional users. Microsoft has created two genuine Windows offers to help customers who unknowingly purchased counterfeit versions of Windows XP Professional, by offering those who qualify one of the following offers.
Complimentary offer: In the US, Microsoft will make a complimentary copy of Windows XP Pro available to customers that have been sold counterfeit Windows. Customers will be required to submit a proof of purchase, their counterfeit CD, and complete a counterfeit report with details of their purchase. Only high-quality counterfeit Windows will qualify for the complimentary offer. More information about the qualifying criteria is available at http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/purchase/QualifyInfo.aspx.
Electronic Key Offer: Microsoft will offer an alternative for customers who find out via the WGA validation process that they are not running genuine Windows, but do not qualify for, or choose not to take the complimentary offer. These customers will be able to license a kit to scan their Windows system files, and if their files match the originals, convert their copy of Windows XP Professional to genuine. The customer must also submit a counterfeit report. Microsoft will then make a genuine version available for $149 (versus $299 estimated retail price).
Q.
How does the electronic license work?
A.
Customers who pay for the electronic license will receive an email confirmation with a new 25-character Product Key, and instructions on where to download the Windows Product Key Update Tool, which will perform a complete scan of the user?s Windows system files. The Tool will perform a scan of the approximately 6,000 files which make up the Windows XP distribution. If the files are unchanged from the original, then the scan will pass, and the genuine Windows conversion will continue.
Any differences from the original would indicate a potential vulnerability, and will cause the scan to fail. If the scan fails, you will not be able to complete the online conversion to genuine Windows. You will be instructed to store your genuine Windows Product Key in a safe place and wait until your Windows Genuine Advantage Kit CD arrives via postal mail. You should then use the Windows Genuine Advantage Kit CD, along with your Product Key, to perform a clean installation of Windows XP Professional.
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notice it says high quality...
What is the genuine Windows offer?
A.
Microsoft?s genuine Windows® offer is designed to help customers who unknowingly purchased counterfeit versions of Windows XP, by offering those who qualify a complimentary or $149 electronic license key for a genuine copy of Windows XP.
Q.
What are the details of the pilot genuine Windows offer?
A.
Beginning of May 4, 2005, Microsoft will pilot the genuine Windows offer in the United States for Windows XP Professional users. Microsoft has created two genuine Windows offers to help customers who unknowingly purchased counterfeit versions of Windows XP Professional, by offering those who qualify one of the following offers.
Complimentary offer: In the US, Microsoft will make a complimentary copy of Windows XP Pro available to customers that have been sold counterfeit Windows. Customers will be required to submit a proof of purchase, their counterfeit CD, and complete a counterfeit report with details of their purchase. Only high-quality counterfeit Windows will qualify for the complimentary offer. More information about the qualifying criteria is available at http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/purchase/QualifyInfo.aspx.
Electronic Key Offer: Microsoft will offer an alternative for customers who find out via the WGA validation process that they are not running genuine Windows, but do not qualify for, or choose not to take the complimentary offer. These customers will be able to license a kit to scan their Windows system files, and if their files match the originals, convert their copy of Windows XP Professional to genuine. The customer must also submit a counterfeit report. Microsoft will then make a genuine version available for $149 (versus $299 estimated retail price).
Q.
How does the electronic license work?
A.
Customers who pay for the electronic license will receive an email confirmation with a new 25-character Product Key, and instructions on where to download the Windows Product Key Update Tool, which will perform a complete scan of the user?s Windows system files. The Tool will perform a scan of the approximately 6,000 files which make up the Windows XP distribution. If the files are unchanged from the original, then the scan will pass, and the genuine Windows conversion will continue.
Any differences from the original would indicate a potential vulnerability, and will cause the scan to fail. If the scan fails, you will not be able to complete the online conversion to genuine Windows. You will be instructed to store your genuine Windows Product Key in a safe place and wait until your Windows Genuine Advantage Kit CD arrives via postal mail. You should then use the Windows Genuine Advantage Kit CD, along with your Product Key, to perform a clean installation of Windows XP Professional.
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notice it says high quality...
So, this is not about getting a "dodgy copy" from some guy at a market stall etc and M$ giving you a legitimate CD Key.
This is about buying what you actually thought was the real deal and M$ offering compensation to snuff there unscrupulous traders online.
That's a very different category to the person(s) most of us know that can procure for us knowingly unlicensed copies of software.
Whatever M$ implements for security to avoid piracy, some bright spark will circumvent it in a matter of days and you will be able to read all about it hours later on the Internet.
This is about buying what you actually thought was the real deal and M$ offering compensation to snuff there unscrupulous traders online.
That's a very different category to the person(s) most of us know that can procure for us knowingly unlicensed copies of software.
Whatever M$ implements for security to avoid piracy, some bright spark will circumvent it in a matter of days and you will be able to read all about it hours later on the Internet.
No, not "haha"... some of us actually give a sh!t about supporting people just like the code monkeys on these forums. I'm not a perfect person when it comes to software, but asshats like you who make a joke of piracy should be shot and be allowed one swift kick in the balls by every person that worked hard to make XP.
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