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disappoint said:
People don't go to church to learn science. It's the wrong place for that.
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I am sorry that is a cop out!!
That is where the people are whose minds need to be changed!
You need to go out and actively seek and set them free from the binds of what you and others would call false teachings!!

You want to call what they believe rubbish but you do not care to change their minds....

Perhaps your convictions are not as strong as you would believe!!
 
Pray To Jesus said:
Your lack of respect and condescending attitude towards people who have a different perspective tells me that I shouldn't respect you.
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That is your decision.

I don't respect you so I don't care about what you think or say. It is entirely your fault that I don't respect you.
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Your emotions are yours alone. Scapegoating them on another person is a cop-out. To suggest that you are not responsible for your own feelings and those actions that those feelings produce is tantamount to blaming battered wives for their bruises.
 
Cerpin Taxt said:
That is your decision.


Your emotions are yours alone. Scapegoating them on another person is a cop-out. To suggest that you are not responsible for your own feelings and those actions that those feelings produce is tantamount to blaming battered wives for their bruises.
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Hahahahah what a bunch of baloney. You seem to love lying. Is it any wonder that I don't respect you?


You are the wife beater blaming his wife for the beatings.

And, another, please, no personal attacks in the discussion club. -Admin DrPizza
 
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Please, keep this discussion civil, or those who cannot will not be able to discuss it further in this thread. -Admin DrPizza
 
disappoint said:
Only they can choose to change their minds, you know that.
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JEDIYoda said:
so let me guess, you do not have the ability to present your case in such a manner that they will listen to you??
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Nice try but bad guess. I can present my case just fine. What I will not do is force people to listen to something they don't want to hear.

As for the thread I thought I saw it was locked but now it appears re-opened so while we await their final decision I hope no one minds my answering a question asked of me.
 
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You want to call what they believe rubbish but you do not care to change their minds....
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Oh and I do care to change their minds. As they care to change mine.

I have my methods, and they have theirs.

You can't really grab someone by the hand and yank them kicking and screaming to your point of view. But you can lead by example. Even most of them already know that. Even if they don't know how they know it 😉

What example? How about the one where science answered more questions correctly than every religion combined thus far?

There is a proper method for attaining knowledge and that would be the one that is most fruitful in doing so.

The scientific method has been much more fruitful than guesswork, even if it uses a little "guesswork" of it's own kind.
 
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