FREE! New public Alchemy version Sveasoft firmware for Linksys WRT54G / WRT54GS wireless 802.11g router

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Devistater

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Originally posted by: kevman
Thanks Dev,
The Sveasoft firmware update utility on the router interface specifically says dont use firmware that is not from Sveasoft. Is it ok to use the OEM firmware with the Alchemy modded interface to update? just want to triple check b4 I go back.

Thanks again.

Kevman

Well I just did a search on sveasoft forums on reverting to linksys firmware and I see mixed results. Some ppl it worked and some it didn't.

The best way of course is to use a thing called TFTP. Here's linksys tftp program from the official linksys site:
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://ftp.linksys.com/pub/network/tftp.exe"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://ftp.linksys.com/pub/network/tftp.exe">ftp://ftp.linksys.com/pub/network/tftp.exe</a></a>
d/l that and use that to update the router to be on the safe side.
You put in the IP addy of the router, the password, and browse to the file, then click upgrade.

Remember to do hard reset to firmware defaults on the router after you upgrade, you dont want some weird settings from sveasoft hanging around and messing up stuff.
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Infohawk

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Does anyone know if it's possible to schedule the antenna going on or off with any of this custom firmware?
 

Attrox

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I just bought the WRT54G but it's v4. Is there any known firmware that works with this router? I can't find one so far :(
 

Steelerz37

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Originally posted by: Attrox
I just bought the WRT54G but it's v4. Is there any known firmware that works with this router? I can't find one so far :(

v4? that must be a pretty new model, i havent heard of it. Are you sure its not a v3? if it s a v3 Alchemy will work for it and so will DD-WRT. I just switched from Alchemy to DD-WRT and its running great a v2.2 and v3. If it is actually a v4 look for DD-WRT, I would bet it will be supported by it in the future.
 

Steelerz37

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did some looking into it and saw that the guy that does DD-WRT is working on this now. He posted today saying he will look into it further. He had released an alpha version that had bricked a couple routers, so definitly dont flash that one :) Keep an eye on his firmware though, I'd bet in a few days he will have it working with the v4's. www.dd-wrt.com is the firmware site, and there is a link to the forums he posts at.
 

Attrox

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Originally posted by: Steelerz37
Originally posted by: Attrox
I just bought the WRT54G but it's v4. Is there any known firmware that works with this router? I can't find one so far :(

v4? that must be a pretty new model, i havent heard of it. Are you sure its not a v3? if it s a v3 Alchemy will work for it and so will DD-WRT. I just switched from Alchemy to DD-WRT and its running great a v2.2 and v3. If it is actually a v4 look for DD-WRT, I would bet it will be supported by it in the future.

Yep, I bought one from Newegg like amdskip and it's a definite v4. I checked even the serial number and confirm it with sveasoft faq.
 

Attrox

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Originally posted by: Steelerz37
did some looking into it and saw that the guy that does DD-WRT is working on this now. He posted today saying he will look into it further. He had released an alpha version that had bricked a couple routers, so definitly dont flash that one :) Keep an eye on his firmware though, I'd bet in a few days he will have it working with the v4's. www.dd-wrt.com is the firmware site, and there is a link to the forums he posts at.

Thanks for the heads up. How reliable is the DD-WRT firmware? A lot of people are using the Sveasoft firmware so you can be pretty sure that it's been tested by a lot of people, what about the DD-WRT? Do they have bandwidth management like the one on Alchemy?
 

Steelerz37

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yea, dd-wrt is is a mix of a few firmwares, pretty sure it was originally based off a beta version of Alchemy. Its also very closely related to Open-WRT. Yes, there is a Quality of Service section in DD-WRT, I havent used it so I cant comment on how it works. As far as realiability, I flashed from a Alchemy 1.0 Final to DD-WRT v22 Final R2 a few days ago and have no problems at all. I would have flahsed sooner, but I was waiting for the final version of DD-WRT to be realeased because I was using WDS on 2 routers and didnt want to have to reconfigure them twice. Turns out it was extremely easy. I flashed my first one with ddwrt setup the WDS, and the link came up :) (!) with the other one still running Alchemy.

The main reason I switched to dd wrt was just because of that jerk that runs sveasoft. I dont want anything to do with someone that treats his paying customers as badly as he does.
 

skisteven1

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Sorry for not reading all 25 pages in case this is mentioned earlier somewhere, but...

is there a specific hardware version that's the best to get? Is there any difference (at all?) between the WRT54G and the WRT54GS? It seems like there's absoluetly no difference, but I'm quite sure. Also, how about the WAP54G? Can you do anything with that? Can you put the same firmware on it?

If there's a specific place I can look for all the general FAQ's like that, that would be great. Thanks
 

imported_nunya

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Wow, I'm glad you bumped this thread. I've never heard of this and it looks amazing. Time to start shopping for a router.
 

gpgofast

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Originally posted by: skisteven1
Sorry for not reading all 25 pages in case this is mentioned earlier somewhere, but...

is there a specific hardware version that's the best to get? Is there any difference (at all?) between the WRT54G and the WRT54GS? It seems like there's absoluetly no difference, but I'm quite sure. Also, how about the WAP54G? Can you do anything with that? Can you put the same firmware on it?

If there's a specific place I can look for all the general FAQ's like that, that would be great. Thanks

Everything you need to know. Stay away from WRT54G V5.

http://www.linksysinfo.org/

 

mrVW

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I found a bunch of the version 2.0 GS rounters at Sams Club in BullHead City Arizona....they had over 30. Staples sometimes has old tock too. There are a lits of serial numbers you can check to get the version without opening up package.
 

imported_waldo

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Originally posted by: mrVW
I found a bunch of the version 2.0 GS rounters at Sams Club in BullHead City Arizona....they had over 30. Staples sometimes has old tock too. There are a lits of serial numbers you can check to get the version without opening up package.

If you pick me up a couple, I'll pay shipping and a modest fee!

Cheers,
waldo
 

mrVW

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Originally posted by: waldo
[I found a bunch of the version 2.0 GS rounters at Sams Club in BullHead City Arizona....they had over 30. Staples sometimes has old tock too. There are a lits of serial numbers you can check to get the version without opening up package.

If you pick me up a couple, I'll pay shipping and a modest fee!

Cheers,
waldo[/quote]

I will be there on Wednesday... but they aren't priced anything special I think $69 is the price Sams want for them. PM me your phone number and if I have time on Wednesday I will see what I can do.

MrVW / Stephen Gutknecht

 

Devistater

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Originally posted by: MrBLUNT
How do you install this? .bin file dat is

Log into the router interface and tell it to do a firmware upgrade. Dont forget to do a hard reset after the upgrade, etc.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: skisteven1
Sorry for not reading all 25 pages in case this is mentioned earlier somewhere, but...

is there a specific hardware version that's the best to get? Is there any difference (at all?) between the WRT54G and the WRT54GS? It seems like there's absoluetly no difference, but I'm quite sure. Also, how about the WAP54G? Can you do anything with that? Can you put the same firmware on it?

If there's a specific place I can look for all the general FAQ's like that, that would be great. Thanks



gs is faster wireless. more memory, not used to my knowledge, but some firmware out there may, i dunno
 

skisteven1

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: skisteven1
Sorry for not reading all 25 pages in case this is mentioned earlier somewhere, but...

is there a specific hardware version that's the best to get? Is there any difference (at all?) between the WRT54G and the WRT54GS? It seems like there's absoluetly no difference, but I'm quite sure. Also, how about the WAP54G? Can you do anything with that? Can you put the same firmware on it?

If there's a specific place I can look for all the general FAQ's like that, that would be great. Thanks



gs is faster wireless. more memory, not used to my knowledge, but some firmware out there may, i dunno

I was under the impression that the GS didn't have any special hardware to be faster (do you need compatible hardware to be faster than 54G?), but that it was a firmware thing, and could be done on the regular WRT54G.

Is there any point (other than more memory) in getting the GS over the G if i've just got a regular 54G card? Should I worry about the memory? do a lot of people run out of memory on the WRT54G?

thanks!
 

Devistater

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Originally posted by: skisteven1
I was under the impression that the GS didn't have any special hardware to be faster (do you need compatible hardware to be faster than 54G?), but that it was a firmware thing, and could be done on the regular WRT54G.

Is there any point (other than more memory) in getting the GS over the G if i've just got a regular 54G card? Should I worry about the memory? do a lot of people run out of memory on the WRT54G?

thanks!


Ok, first the GS vs the G. The GS has some wireless speed up technology. If I remember right, you can get about 25mbps with G and 35mbps transfer rates with GS. Or maybe it was 35 and 45. Anyway, you will get a bit faster transfer rates if you have all GS equipment. If you have a GS router and a G card, you might get very slightly faster performance, because not all of the improvements require a GS wireless card to work. But its not going to be much.

As for the memory, its unlikely that you will need the extra memory in the GS. Unless you like adding custom packages to custom firmware and play with this customization stuff and linux day in and day out.

If you just want a quality router with some cool firmware that gives you lots of options and you dont have GS cards, it doesn't really matter. Just choose the cheapest. Odds are the differance in transfer rates even using all GS equipment wont matter to you. If you are transferring lots of huge multi gigabyte files all day long you should be using gigabit wired networking anyway, not wireless. :)
 

SleepWalkerX

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If you flash a wrt54g router with DD-WRT or similar haxed firmware you can enable afterburner (which what Linksys calls, speedbooster).
 

skisteven1

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ok, last question, i swear:

so I plan to use a bunch of the extra features of the router, I'd like to be able to ssh in and change configurations (i'm familiar with linux), I'd like to be able to write scripts on the router and have them run. Maybe even bandwidth shaping stuff. It looks like I want DDWRT, but that's not my main question.

Right now I snagged a v4 WRT54G from bestbuy. they also had v4 WRT54GS, which has 32mb of memory instead of 16. Is it worth the extra 20 bucks? Am i going to need the memory? I also may have the option to trade someone for their WRT54G v2 (with 32mb) -- is that my best bet for compatability and whatnot?

I'm looking through the charts and stuff at linksysinfo, but its hard to assimilate all the info to one place

thanks for the help!
 

Devistater

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Originally posted by: skisteven1
ok, last question, i swear:

so I plan to use a bunch of the extra features of the router, I'd like to be able to ssh in and change configurations (i'm familiar with linux), I'd like to be able to write scripts on the router and have them run. Maybe even bandwidth shaping stuff. It looks like I want DDWRT, but that's not my main question.

Right now I snagged a v4 WRT54G from bestbuy. they also had v4 WRT54GS, which has 32mb of memory instead of 16. Is it worth the extra 20 bucks? Am i going to need the memory? I also may have the option to trade someone for their WRT54G v2 (with 32mb) -- is that my best bet for compatability and whatnot?

I'm looking through the charts and stuff at linksysinfo, but its hard to assimilate all the info to one place

thanks for the help!
Doesn't have to be your last question. You might have more after you buy it :)

You may not need the extra memory. Scripts dont take up hardly any memory to speak of, and bandwidth shaping stuff is built into the sveasoft standard firmware. When I talk about extra packages I'm talking stuff like say for example Kismet, or like the hotspot package (I forget the name, chilispot or some such, it lets you setup logins for wireless like a college campus, or you could try and sell wireless access with logins like Starbucks does). I cant remember if SSL for secure webpages is part of sveasoft, but that would be an optional package if its not.

Even then you could surely install at one of those I mentioned, maybe even both in the availible memory of the G.

From what I know, the plans are to release the Talisman version of sveasoft in a micro form thats only the bare minimum, then add ability to install packages of everything you want on top of that. Then you could only install the stuff you want, normally the standard install of the firmware probably contains lots of stuff you wouldn't even need. So even on the G, once that version of the firmware is released you could use that one and still almost certainly fit everything else you want into it.

I just checked on the forums and apparently they added package support to the latest standard version of talisman. I also found out a couple other packages, like there's freeRADIUS which I think is some sorta alternate wireless authentication software, you'd need special software on all the computers as well for this.

Here's a quote from sveasoft in the forums about the packages:
"You can even install the OpenWRT ipgk manager on the rw partition and use OpenWRT packages. "
So apparently you will even be able to install packages for other firmwares into the later talisman versions, besides the ones made for sveasoft. You could probably check into the openWRT pages/forums to see what kinda packages they have as well.

ALSO! Be aware that if you want the extra memory on the GS, you'll need an early version of them. I think past V3 of the GS, they reduced the memory size back to something like the G or even smaller (I'm not 100% sure on the specifics, thats something you'll need to research if you are planning to get a GS). And for versions you have to go by serial number, the "version" number they quote on the box is NOT whats inside from my experiance.

BTW: I didn't mind that you msged me, sometimes I dont check this thread often enough :) Just be aware that if I think the info might benifit others, I'll post the reply here :)

Edit: Circuit city for turkey day only, has online wrt54g for $39.99 no rebates.
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