Free k&n decal

[Imyourzero]

I'm not going to get into this argument...at least not until cbrsmurf provides actual proof that K&N filters decrease HP. It's just that...well...I own a Mustang GT and frequent a few Mustang forums. Keep in mind that most of the people that register and post there are performance enthusiasts who want every last HP just like PC enthusiasts want every last MHz. These guys go to the dyno striving for that extra HP and I simply refuse to believe that 90% of them would be using K&N's if they were proven to reduce HP.

So, I stand here waiting for proof that a K&N filter reduces HP, and I'd like you to recommend a better filter for the $$ that is reusable and adds horsepower.

Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

 

[cbrsmurf]

I apologize that I did not mention I was referring to sportbikes. I do not know or have an opinion of K&N on automobiles. It's been shown that K&N filters on sportbikes decrease peak HP (less than 1 HP) when replacing the stock air filter. I haven't seen data if it's a decrease across the whole range or just the top end. So that's that, form your own opinions.

Oh, and I have ran stock and k&n on my bike.... no noticeable difference to me.

 

[cbrsmurf]

Originally posted by: Imyourzero
Keep in mind that most of the people that register and post there are performance enthusiasts who want every last HP just like PC enthusiasts want every last MHz. These guys go to the dyno striving for that extra HP and I simply refuse to believe that 90% of them would be using K&N's if they were proven to reduce HP.

I've noticed that many enthusiasts are very susceptible to peer pressure/group mentality and advertisement. They also think one run on the dyno proves everything.

 

[huesmann]

Originally posted by: DaCurryman

Originally posted by: huesmann

Originally posted by: JCase

Originally posted by: cbrsmurf
K&N is great if you are not racing, but more often than not, they decrease hp. Also, they don't even offer contigency in racing competitions. They're great if you're just commuting since they're recleanable, otherwise, they are poop.

You've got to be kidding...When I pulled out my stock air filter and compared it to the K&N, it was obvious that there would be an increase in air flow. My stock filter was almost two inches deep, and made of an acordian style paper filter. The K&N is about 0.5 in. deep, and the filter element is foam/plastic...I immediately felt an improved throttle response and more top end power...not to mention an even meaner intake growl. Btw, this is on a Corrado vr6, an already quick and responsive car.

Ah, the placebo effect.

Next you're gonna say that Medicine is unecessary and just a ploy by drug manufacturers to take money. They have no effect on people, and people are just fools and yep, another placebo effect.

It's one thing when just the company promotes themselves....but when a company is recognized for it's technology and workmanship within the automotive community, I would gather it's a little more than the "placebo effect"

So your senses are so finely-tuned that you can objectively measure a 5hp (at best) increase with your foot (or your ass)?

Is a PC overclocker able to measure a 50MHz increase in his CPU clock by playing Quake3?

 

[JetsFanatic]

KEWL

 

[Imyourzero]

Originally posted by: cbrsmurf
I apologize that I did not mention I was referring to sportbikes. I do not know or have an opinion of K&N on automobiles. It's been shown that K&N filters on sportbikes decrease peak HP (less than 1 HP) when replacing the stock air filter. I haven't seen data if it's a decrease across the whole range or just the top end. So that's that, form your own opinions.

Oh, and I have ran stock and k&n on my bike.... no noticeable difference to me.

Hey...fair enough. I don't know jack about sportbikes so I'd have no place to give advice on them.

Still, less than a 1 HP decrease? That's hardly worth bitching about when you consider the fact that you can re-use it time and time again (can't be said for the stock filter). Besides, I'd be willing to be that if the K&N did flow a tiny bit less it was because it was filtering more crap from getting sucked into the engine, and that can't be a bad thing.

 

[Slickone]

Originally posted by: cbrsmurf
I apologize that I did not mention I was referring to sportbikes. I do not know or have an opinion of K&N on automobiles. It's been shown that K&N filters on sportbikes decrease peak HP (less than 1 HP) when replacing the stock air filter. I haven't seen data if it's a decrease across the whole range or just the top end. So that's that, form your own opinions.

Oh, and I have ran stock and k&n on my bike.... no noticeable difference to me.

Funny, they increase horsepower on two stroke jetski's. Mine made a big difference. Go Karts too I think.

 

[fishhawk]

Originally posted by: jmelnek
anyone know where the cheapest place to by a k&n filter is?

See this thread about at least one place to order a K&N filter.