*Free* JPL/NASA orbit tool for the -NEW- 10th planet

RideFree

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Fairly *HOT* (IMHO)

+ links to everything you wanted to know about; when does it (Not necessarily 2003 UB313) hit us? :):):)

Also interesting

PS Check out the 11 tabs toward the top of the NEOP web page.

PS2 OK! Let the little dogs flame away about how not hot this is. . .
 

thedealmaker

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We have known that there are only 9 planets in this solar system for over a century, now they say there are 10... Who knows, maybe we were not evoluted from monkey after all, maybe from penguin. :)
 

batmanuel

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Originally posted by: thedealmaker
We have known that there are only 9 planets in this solar system for over a century, now they say there are 10... Who knows, maybe we were not evoluted from monkey after all, maybe from penguin. :)

Actually there are likely only eight true planets. Chances are this discovery will finally get Pluto demoted to the Kupier Belt object it should have been all along. In a few decades when hundreds or thousands of these objects have been found, we'll laugh at the fact we ever considered Pluto a proper planet.

 

Xyclone

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Originally posted by: batmanuel
Originally posted by: thedealmaker
We have known that there are only 9 planets in this solar system for over a century, now they say there are 10... Who knows, maybe we were not evoluted from monkey after all, maybe from penguin. :)

Actually there are likely only eight true planets. Chances are this discovery will finally get Pluto demoted to the Kupier Belt object it should have been all along. In a few decades when hundreds or thousands of these objects have been found, we'll laugh at the fact we ever considered Pluto a proper planet.

Nicely said. :cookie:
 

mscdex0

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Originally posted by: Xyclone
Originally posted by: batmanuel
Originally posted by: thedealmaker
We have known that there are only 9 planets in this solar system for over a century, now they say there are 10... Who knows, maybe we were not evoluted from monkey after all, maybe from penguin. :)

Actually there are likely only eight true planets. Chances are this discovery will finally get Pluto demoted to the Kupier Belt object it should have been all along. In a few decades when hundreds or thousands of these objects have been found, we'll laugh at the fact we ever considered Pluto a proper planet.

Nicely said. :cookie:

One shouldn't be eating cookies at this hour :)
 

Chadder007

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Originally posted by: batmanuel
Originally posted by: thedealmaker
We have known that there are only 9 planets in this solar system for over a century, now they say there are 10... Who knows, maybe we were not evoluted from monkey after all, maybe from penguin. :)

Actually there are likely only eight true planets. Chances are this discovery will finally get Pluto demoted to the Kupier Belt object it should have been all along. In a few decades when hundreds or thousands of these objects have been found, we'll laugh at the fact we ever considered Pluto a proper planet.

Don't say that about poor little Pluto. :(
 

drinkmorejava

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How do you get 8? Wouldn't it be more like pluto would get demoted --like they've been talking about forever-- and 2003 UB313 would then become number 9.
 

sinucus

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If you push the backwards button and go back to 1600 you can see a full rotation. It looks like it takes 550 years to do a full orbit.
 

RideFree

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Originally posted by: batmanuel
Actually there are likely only eight true planets. Chances are this discovery will finally get Pluto demoted to the Kupier Belt object it should have been all along. In a few decades when hundreds or thousands of these objects have been found, we'll laugh at the fact we ever considered Pluto a proper planet.
Yes, Pluto is in the Kupier Belt however, the reason it is included in the planetary list for Sol is that it's orbit is in the approximately the same plane as the other eight planets, albeit, Pluto rotates the sun in the opposite direction from the others.
Additional arguments can be garnered for Pluto?s planetary authenticity by considering Charon, Pluto?s moon. As both Pluto and Charon share synchronicity with respect to each other, it is theorized that they were once one mass and became separate because of a gigantic impact. with an unknown body.
2003 UB313 will never replace Pluto as the 9th planet, nor will it ever attain status as the 10th planet (IMHO) due to the fact that 2003 UB313?s orbit is oblique with respect to the rest of the solar system.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
cool. but it stops at 2200, can't even get one orbit in of 2003 UB313

go backwards to about 1650
 

ElFenix

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hmm... pluto is still inside neptune's orbit, i thought that changed years ago
 

gspyer

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Originally posted by: RideFree
Originally posted by: batmanuel
Actually there are likely only eight true planets. Chances are this discovery will finally get Pluto demoted to the Kupier Belt object it should have been all along. In a few decades when hundreds or thousands of these objects have been found, we'll laugh at the fact we ever considered Pluto a proper planet.
Yes, Pluto is in the Kupier Belt however, the reason it is included in the planetary list for Sol is that it's orbit is in the approximately the same plane as the other eight planets, albeit, Pluto rotates the sun in the opposite direction from the others.
Additional arguments can be garnered for Pluto?s planetary authenticity by considering Charon, Pluto?s moon. As both Pluto and Charon share synchronicity with respect to each other, it is theorized that they were once one mass and became separate because of a gigantic impact. with an unknown body.
2003 UB313 will never replace Pluto as the 9th planet, nor will it ever attain status as the 10th planet (IMHO) due to the fact that 2003 UB313?s orbit is oblique with respect to the rest of the solar system.

That's true for everything in the Kupier Belt. That is was all probably part of one big planet that was somehow broken up. Funny thing is in Sumerian mythology, they believed in 11 or 12 planets (can't remember). And their gods came from this last planet called Nibiru.
 

RideFree

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Gspyer,
Perhaps you are also familiar with Zecharia Sitchin's works???

When I first read about 2003 UB313 last year, the first thing that came to mind was Sitchin's "Twelfth Planet"

Edited: To change the name Alexander to Zecharia. My memory is a partial failure.
 

batmanuel

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Originally posted by: RideFree
Originally posted by: batmanuel
Actually there are likely only eight true planets. Chances are this discovery will finally get Pluto demoted to the Kupier Belt object it should have been all along. In a few decades when hundreds or thousands of these objects have been found, we'll laugh at the fact we ever considered Pluto a proper planet.
Yes, Pluto is in the Kupier Belt however, the reason it is included in the planetary list for Sol is that it's orbit is in the approximately the same plane as the other eight planets, albeit, Pluto rotates the sun in the opposite direction from the others.
Additional arguments can be garnered for Pluto?s planetary authenticity by considering Charon, Pluto?s moon. As both Pluto and Charon share synchronicity with respect to each other, it is theorized that they were once one mass and became separate because of a gigantic impact. with an unknown body.
2003 UB313 will never replace Pluto as the 9th planet, nor will it ever attain status as the 10th planet (IMHO) due to the fact that 2003 UB313?s orbit is oblique with respect to the rest of the solar system.

That's kind of a stretch isn't it? The orbit is a whopping 17 degrees away from the ecliptic, plus it is a lot more eccentric than the other planets' orbits. The whole backwards orbit bit is just another nail in the coffin. Just haing an orbit vaguely close to the ecliptic does not make you a planet.

Having a moon isn't what it used to be either. There are quite a few binary asteroids out there, so having a satellite doesn't automatically make you a planet.

I'm firmly in the eight planet camp. I'm hoping the the new Kupier belt object will finally bring the IAU around to demoting Pluto. Otherwise, they are going to have to make the new body planet number 10. If they do, I hope that they at least name it Mondas.



 

eLiu

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OP, that's cool...

others: why does it matter whether Pluto is a planet or not?
 

HootchieKhan

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Originally posted by: eLiu
OP, that's cool...

others: why does it matter whether Pluto is a planet or not?


In all reality, it probably doesn't matter to most of us. I think maybe they were having an intelligent conversation.
 

gibster

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Originally posted by: RideFree
Yes, Pluto is in the Kupier Belt however, the reason it is included in the planetary list for Sol is that it's orbit is in the approximately the same plane as the other eight planets, albeit, Pluto rotates the sun in the opposite direction from the others.

From the simulation, it sure looks like it rotates in the same direction.
 

1Lee

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Originally posted by: RideFree
Originally posted by: batmanuel
Actually there are likely only eight true planets. Chances are this discovery will finally get Pluto demoted to the Kupier Belt object it should have been all along. In a few decades when hundreds or thousands of these objects have been found, we'll laugh at the fact we ever considered Pluto a proper planet.
Yes, Pluto is in the Kupier Belt however, the reason it is included in the planetary list for Sol is that it's orbit is in the approximately the same plane as the other eight planets, albeit, Pluto rotates the sun in the opposite direction from the others.
Additional arguments can be garnered for Pluto?s planetary authenticity by considering Charon, Pluto?s moon. As both Pluto and Charon share synchronicity with respect to each other, it is theorized that they were once one mass and became separate because of a gigantic impact. with an unknown body.
2003 UB313 will never replace Pluto as the 9th planet, nor will it ever attain status as the 10th planet (IMHO) due to the fact that 2003 UB313?s orbit is oblique with respect to the rest of the solar system.

Okay Geniuses, I don't care if Pluto is a Planet or not. Just answer me this, is Goofy a dog or not? Thanks.