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ericlp

ericlp

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http://www.myrtletown.net/wifi.php

This looks like a fun project...

Before you go on to tell me that I'm breaking my terms of agreement... Your wasting your time...

Maybe I have 100 acres and want to cover my entire land? No that didn't work? How about I own my own ISP...

Whatever don't waste bandwidth and my time telling me how wrong I am...

So, now that we got that out of the way...


from the above project they are using a 1 watt booster. Anyone know where to get a cheap decent one? I also noticed that they are using a standard linksys WRT54GS... And hooking the booster/antenna up to the (send) side of the router. Wouldn't you need another antenna for the receive side? I'm not sure how that works...

I was looking at geeks.com and less then 100 bucks it looks like I could get all the parts...

ARG-2301A -- Broadband Amplifiers ARG-2301A 802.11... $39.99 $39.99 TQJ-2400-12-PB -- 2.4GHz 12dBi Outdoor Omni-Direct... $32.99 $32.99 CAT5E-100-WHT -- 100' Category 5e Ethernet Patch C... $7.99 $7.99


I already have 2 linksys WRT54GS running dd-wrt and I could just bridge the radio's... saving the cost of the cat5, and running it down to where the router is.

Like I said, my main question would be to get a decent signal maybe 15 or so blocks. I don't want to go overboard... Cheap is a good thing. Tho, if there was a better antenna for a few bucks more... I'm not sure about that signal booster tho. I've looked at 1 watt boosters, from 50-100 bucks. Seems like those would be pretty crucial to get right to make the system work.

Thanks for any and all help!
 
So what is your goal?

You just want longe range with an omni-directional antenna?
Are you trying to make a far wireless bridge? I can assist you with this.
Or are you just trying to recreate their project for your own amusement and self knowledge?
Something else?
 
If you do not have a place with an Antenna placement that higher than most of the structure in the neighborhood, your are wasting your time.

In general Wireless is Not just a matter of hardware like HSF, PSU, and expnsive memory is for Over Clocking.

There are environmental and other variables that have to be taken into consideration, otherwise it will Not do what you want it to do.
 
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Nuwave said:
So what is your goal?

You just want longe range with an omni-directional antenna?
Are you trying to make a far wireless bridge? I can assist you with this.
Or are you just trying to recreate their project for your own amusement and self knowledge?
Something else?
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What is the goal... Yeah pretty much for amusement; something to do.

So a long range omni directional antenna would be the goal... That really won't break the bank but at least should do around 10 blocks.


As far as antenna position goes... I have a 3 story home. almost the highest home on the block. But if I add 5' of pipe with an antenna on top then the only thing higher will be trees. Got some tall pines trees around. I'm not about to go much higher then 5' and I don't want to build a tower. I even thought about running some sort of antenna at the top of the pine tree. I'd then need some POE since I really don't want to string power line that far and high up. Besides I'm not a very good tree climber.

The bridge was just to bridge the two routers together but I think I'll just run a hard line back to where the router is. it's not too much of a problem. The router is on the second floor anyway.

I found some more info on that 1 watt booster... But the reviewer had the same questions I had. What to do about the receive part. I'm not sure how you can really boost a "receive" since if a signal is not getting back to the antenna then it's not going to help much, tho, the higher you get it the better time it's going to have to get a signal. My guess. 🙂

Anyway... here is the link... The reviewer isn't much of an expert since... DDWRT you can assign what antenna you want to send or receive from the router.

http://www.signalreach.ca/ARGtek-ARG2301ATNC-802.11bg-WiFi-Signal-Booster/A/B001JHNLRM.htm

So I think I am going to get that since it's only 40 bucks from geeks.

The only other thing in question is... The antenna... I haven't mounted any of the hardware to the side of the house yet. What size of pipe should I get from HD? Could I use sch-40? Or does it have to be metal?

Thanks!
 
ericlp said:
http://www.l-com.com/productfamily.aspx?id=6379

Might want to send them here too..

Go get a life... apparently you have none.

Please stay on topic or don't post.... simple as that....
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Don't interfere with the public spectrum. Simple as that.

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You're talking about using an omni antenna. You and that site are over the limit for omni antennas. Drop the antenna to 6dbi or reduce the transmitter and you're OK.

To stay on topic to do what you want mount an omni high on a mast with proper grounding/lightning protection and stay within the FCC EIRP limits. The higher the better however your coverage will be at it's worst directly above and below the antenna but at the power probably not a concern. In fact it would probably be better to have the AP indoors and run the antenna cable up the mast to the antenna. This will make your lightning/grounding easier given you need to reduce the power anyway you can use the cable/lightning arrestor to do that. Then adjust the power down as needed.

Regarding my life, I do this shit for a living. I didn't mean to come off like an ass and I know I did but I have to deal with this kind of interference from time to time and it's bothersome. If you look down further in the forum there is a calculator I posted that can assist you.
 
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omni pushes a mushroom cloud shape data so you need to make sure its not too high or too low. much easier to deal with directionals man.

google mesh networking there's better ways of doing this using concurrent send/receive mesh topology
 
Oh well, regardless, I opted for a 5watt boost with the antenna got a really good deal on ebay. That should do it. 🙂 As for lightning protection..absolutely. I wired a GFI in a nema box for extra protection. As for keeping the router indoors and running a wire all the way up the mast to the antenna. Well, that would just lose power. Idea was to keep the pig tail short as possible for maximum gain.

From what others have said I think it will work out decently for my applications. Cheers...
 
ericlp said:
Before you go on to tell me that I'm breaking my terms of agreement... Your wasting your time...

Maybe I have 100 acres and want to cover my entire land? No that didn't work? How about I own my own ISP...

Whatever don't waste bandwidth and my time telling me how wrong I am...

So, now that we got that out of the way...
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What a douche.
 
Amps suck. I work for a Wireless ISP and you wont find 1 single amp on our whole network.
If you want the power its high power cards and high gain antenna's. If your looking for range and good connectivity go with a array of sectors instead of a omni. Fcc knocking at your door? I don't know about that. But if they are around looking for stuff, they will find you.
 
Not only do amps suck, they don't do crap for a two way operation like wifi. All the clients will still be at mw power and need to aim a very good directional antenna at it. Not exactly a glamorous way to connect your laptop, just a minute let me get out my pringle antenna.
Oh and they fvck up the entire area for everybody else.
IF you want to make a WDS network you can do that at low power with directional antennas on the interconnects. set up local omni APs (again, at normal power) where you really want the coverage.
 
It's a stupid thing, and probably more of a troll than a serious effort. Just ignore him and let him find out for himself what five watts of 2.4Ghz RF can do to / for him and his system ... gotta get that antenna waaaay up there ...

His ISP will probably find out that he's distributing their service too ....just guessing
 
spidey07 said:
You run one watt with an 12db omni and the FCC will come knocking on your door.
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The MPAA and RIAA will come knocking on his door as well if someone uses his free network access to download a bunch of copyrighted shit off of BitTorrent, too.

That said, more power to 'em...
 
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