Free Alternative to Cedega??

Corey0808

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Is there a free alternative to Cedega? I've been looking to transfer to a Linux OS but I don't want to give up WinXP because I like to play WoW, CS:Source, HL2, UT2k4 etc. If there is anything that is reliable, please give me a link. Thanks!
 

TGS

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$199.99 for Windows XP Home Edition.

$5 bucks a month Cedega membership cost, minimum of 3 months membership.


Do you really need to find a free alternative for Windows. Cedega if it supports your game is seriously the best route to go.
 

Corey0808

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Well, I want to use linux all the time. Given that I would also like to play some of the windows based games I listed above. I just don't want to pay monthly for games I've already purchased (w/ exception of WoW). I just want to know if there is a free alternative. Thanks!
 

nweaver

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you get 3 months of Cedega for 15 bucks, turn it off (the program still works, you just stop getting updates for the latest of games). When you get a new game that isn't working with your older version, you pay 15 bucks to update for 3 months again.
 

bersl2

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[thud][thud][thud]

That is the sound of my head hitting some surface---I know not which.

W... I... N... E...

Cedega is WINE + proprietary patches for things like copy protection support (ugh...)

And you should definitely use the native port of UT2k4 (icculus == the man). The installer is on either the first or the last disk.
 

sourceninja

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You can download and compile Cedega from source for free. Just download it from their CVS. You just dont get their copy protection emulation (which means you have to crack your games with no-cd cracks). Also, as other's have said, a lot of games have linux ports now. UT2k4, NWN, doom 3, etc. In fact your ut2k4 disk has a linux installer built right into it.
 

TGS

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wow

source

And UT under the native packages. I've played UT2K3 perfectly under linux. Just not my FPS cup of tea really.
 

Corey0808

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I really appreciate all the feedback you guys are giving me on this. You guys are great :) Just a question. What root would be better to go with? The Cedega one that you have to find cracks for, or wine? I'm still a little confused. Thanks!
 

bersl2

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Originally posted by: Corey0808
I really appreciate all the feedback you guys are giving me on this. You guys are great :) Just a question. What root would be better to go with? The Cedega one that you have to find cracks for, or wine? I'm still a little confused. Thanks!

Here's the deal:

WINE (WINE Is Not an Emulator) is the original, open-source project for running Windows programs on Linux. At some point (before WINE went (L)GPL), two commercial forks were established: Crossover, for running MS Office and other business-style apps; and Cedega (formerly WineX), for running games (this is the one that licensed various copy protection technologies).

The advantage of the commercial forks is that they are often easier to use, especially for supported apps. The advantage of the vanilla WINE is that it is Free (as in speech---well, at least to the extent that you-know-who hasn't done anything about it yet...) and free (as in beer).

One more thing you should know: nothing is guaranteed to work with WINE (and probably only will work with some reading and twiddling), and support is guaranteed with Cedega only to the extent that the game is on the compatability list. In other words, you really do get what you pay for.
 

Megatomic

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Originally posted by: TGS
$199.99 for Windows XP Home Edition.

$5 bucks a month Cedega membership cost, minimum of 3 months membership.


Do you really need to find a free alternative for Windows. Cedega if it supports your game is seriously the best route to go.
Who the hell pays $199 for WinXP Home Edition?

$91.95 retail at NewEgg.com.

 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Megatomic
Originally posted by: TGS
$199.99 for Windows XP Home Edition.

$5 bucks a month Cedega membership cost, minimum of 3 months membership.


Do you really need to find a free alternative for Windows. Cedega if it supports your game is seriously the best route to go.
Who the hell pays $199 for WinXP Home Edition?

$91.95 retail at NewEgg.com.

That's an upgrade.
 

rmrf

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one thing that has been missed is that wine does not incorporate directx drivers like cedega does. that is why cedega is directed towards games, and crossover is directed towards office applications.

from what I can remember, cedega (formerly winex), made a promise (or statement) to release it's code each stable release, so that wine could incorporate the directx portions into the free code. I also remember them saying that once they had gotten $5 million in donations for the code, they would develop it for free. I think that statement may have gotten deleted somewhere along the way, but they have a good product either way. it works well for me, and the membership isn't required to keep your games running, just to get updates for new games.
 

bersl2

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Originally posted by: rmrf
one thing that has been missed is that wine does not incorporate directx drivers like cedega does. that is why cedega is directed towards games, and crossover is directed towards office applications.

from what I can remember, cedega (formerly winex), made a promise (or statement) to release it's code each stable release, so that wine could incorporate the directx portions into the free code. I also remember them saying that once they had gotten $5 million in donations for the code, they would develop it for free. I think that statement may have gotten deleted somewhere along the way, but they have a good product either way. it works well for me, and the membership isn't required to keep your games running, just to get updates for new games.

Everything up to DX8 is more than usable. Code enabling some DX9 operations is in a patch floating around. Last I heard, the patch was in limbo, awaiting the completion of other patches, before being submitted to CVS.

If you can get that game-starved, the $5/month is probably well worth it.
 

drag

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From the games you listed..
Ut2004: they have a native Linux version. They even include the linux installer on the cdroms. Check out http://icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php for details and updates. http://icculus.org/


HL2/Steam/CS:Source: no chance in hell for a free version. That game has so much DRM crap it'll make your head spin.

That's one of the reasons why you have to use Cedega for games. When they incorporate protections into installers and stuff like that Cedega is able to license the technology to get it to work in Linux. Actually many windows-only game makers and anti-piracy stuff will actually work with Cedega to make sure that their stuff will work in Linux. But aside from Cedega's Directx 9 implimentation the major thing is licensing restrictions with the games you want to run.

Many games that will run on straight wine or the free versions of cedega code you can get require that you install them first on Windows then copy the game content over....

World of Warcraft will work on CVS versions of Wine with Wine's Free Directx9 support... But you have to know what your doing.


The 5 dollar subscription fee is minimally 3 months, if all your games work you can simple cancel it and you can still continue playing those games. It won't shut off on you.

For more information on wine: http://appdb.winehq.org/
For more infromation on wine apps howtos: http://frankscorner.org/

Should realy check out free software games, though. Some are very nice and almost all are designed to run on older hardware. A good example is Vegastrike, which is a wingcommander-style game and under constant developement. It's requirements are something like a 600mhz Pentium3, 386 megs of RAM, and a 16 meg video card and it's actually nice looking. If your using Debian or Ubuntu you can install it just by going apt-get install vegastrike, if you have the source.list setup with the extra repositories and such.
 

Corey0808

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Well all this talk has got me thinking. I might go for Cedega. I have one question though. I purchased CS:Source / HL2 through steam. Would I still be able to play in linux? Thanks!